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Old 1st Sep 2018, 17:35
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Originally Posted by drop24 View Post
Why can no one talk about schedules? Are they so individually unique that it would be easy to identify the poster?
I think it's because one persons schedule is nothing like another persons schedule. Plus they are never the same from month to month. The only thing that ever changes at this place is the schedules. NOTHING else ever changes, or ever will.
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Old 1st Sep 2018, 18:00
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Would you say you are overworked? Is fatigue a major factor? How much of your month is night flying? Do you switch to day flying often?
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Old 2nd Sep 2018, 02:33
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1. Overworked? I would say no, compared to other airlines. My medical normally sees me writing between 450-500 hours for the year on the form. They will try and ensure they write the schedules such that we will have one day off in seven but that roster will most likely have standby days where you're not called and occasionally groundschool, emergency training, sims etc. With normal days off, commuting days and vacation days they only have you for 197 days per year.

2. Tiredness is certainly sometimes a factor but show me a 24 hour airline where it's not. It's not nice flying from RGN to NRT through the night but you're never going to see daytime only flying in an organisation such at AJX, so you have to suck it up or go and get an office job somewhere. I don't think fatigue is an issue at the moment. It has been in the past and at one stage the scheduling was really going downhill as far as fatigue mitigation was concerned. However, for the most part, I believe they've listened to what has been said and now try to schedule more sensibly. In my opinion fatigue is brought about by cumulative knackering trips, not an individual trip interspersed with others. Maybe I've been lucky but I really don't see others doing multiple knackering trips in a row and being genuinely fatigued. Tired, sometimes, yes but (at the moment) I don't see fatigue as a major factor.

3. Probably half the roster is night flying. There are some passenger day trips and maybe one or two cargo day trips but most of the flying will be either day into night, vice versa or a day flight to somewhere (e.g. RGN) and a night flight back. If you're scared of the dark then don't apply.......to almost any airline.

4. Again, I believe they have listened to what they've been told about the day/night switching and tried to reduce it. I don't mean during a trip (as I've mentioned above) but if a trip is, for instance, a night cargo flight and your next trip is a day passenger return flight then they'll generally split it with a standby duty or a day off (blank day) if you're close to requiring one. Going from day to night is not normally the problem as you have the time before the night flight to try and rest but the other way round reduces the options and that's why they'll try to stick something in between.
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Old 2nd Sep 2018, 08:17
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There are many cultural idiosyncrasies and politics evolved with this job, there is also a risk in terms of the variable pass rate as we have discussed over a decade now on this thread! But it also seems that we are preaching to the choir!

Lets be honest, if cultural BS and pass rates weren't a factor at other gigs, Would you even be reading this thread?
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Old 2nd Sep 2018, 14:10
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Hi Guys,

Thanks to all of you who have been contributing to this great thread full of very useful information. I have a couple of questions to whoever will be able to help:

1) Is it possible to request a special flight to be able to commute home on the last day of duty? For example asking for a flight landing early morning to catch an early afternoon flight.
2) Are all layovers 24h or can it be longer?
3) How does the company feel about sick days being used while at home? Any need for a medical certificate if that happens? Any red flag if that happens 1 or 2 times per year?

Thanks and happy flying to all!!
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Old 5th Sep 2018, 12:39
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What happens if you fail your captain selection or your upgrade course? How many chances are you given? If you fail are you fired or are their career FO's there?
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Old 5th Sep 2018, 18:43
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Originally Posted by drop24 View Post
What happens if you fail your captain selection or your upgrade course? How many chances are you given? If you fail are you fired or are their career FO's there?
It varies.
if you are a Direct entry Captain and fail you most likely will not get a second chance, although we had a guy approximately 4 years ago they failed twice even though he had several years experience in Japan.
They seem to fail 50% of the Direct entry captains
If you are an FO and you fail the evaluation, you will have another chance after some time, usually a year. Iif you fail the Captain upgrade training most likely you are done.

Rotten things are going on here, and you stand a chance to fail despite your best effort.
I have seen this company ruin several blokes careers for no valid reason.

Think twice before coming here, and use your interview wisely to evaluate the threat you will face.
You will see it immediately at the panel interview.

Cheers Mate



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Old 5th Sep 2018, 21:35
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for FO's upgrading, the policy is one gets 2 attempts at the upgrade, including the upgrade evaluation. After the 1st unsuccessful attempt, usually a 1 year wait is required before another go. After the second failed attempt, generally the FO will have the opportunity to continue on an FO contract. Policies here are, at times, somewhat fluid.
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 08:19
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Concerning the upgrade evaluation, does this mean ppl will fail for the most stupid reasons?
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Old 7th Sep 2018, 09:59
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They seem to fail 50% of the Direct entry captains
You keep quoting this number, Armani, but what evidence do you have that this is correct, because it is certainly at odds with what I have observed?

Very few pilots have joined as DECs in the last few years, especially since they required a JCAB ATPL. I haven't followed the progress of those in great detail and it may well be that a proportion did not get through but when we had DECs without a JCAB ATPL then nothing like 50% failed, in fact I'd be surprised if it was even 10%.

I'm not suggesting that people don't look carefully at all aspects of the job before leaping but stop trying to scaremonger with blatantly false information.
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Old 13th Sep 2018, 06:47
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F-mate,

Of course there was only a matter of time before you had to step in.
We have had quite a few conversations over the past years you and I, so I know you all too well.
Your reputation among the blokes at AJX is that you are a Big mouth.........You are the Fake News of AJX.
We know you like this job, and that you think you are part of the Japanese elite, but please let other people have a say as well. You may not like that people have different opinions, but you need to lay off the Kool Aid mate!
Pehaps take up some hobbies outside of aviation !

Saying that I’m trying to scaremonger with blatantly false information while admitting that you “haven’t followed the progress in great detail” is quite unprofessional and unnecessary. In your opinion anything negative about AJX should be discussed somewhere around the streets of Narita, but you fail to understand that this website isn’t solely yours, and people thinking about joining deserve the truth, don’t they!
I have worked here many years just like you, and I am stating facts.
I would say that in the future we have to agree to disagree.
See you around the patch in Narita.
Thats all I have to say about that.
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Old 13th Sep 2018, 16:14
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Nothing says "Professional pilot group" like a good'ol fashioned catfight on a pilot's bitchboard! LOL
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Old 13th Sep 2018, 22:56
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Too much time in the Goldfish bowl that is Narita,
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Old 14th Sep 2018, 08:58
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Fratemate realistically represents the goings on at AJX. The fashionable brands contribution, can be measured by the first sentence.
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Old 14th Sep 2018, 09:53
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We know you like this job, and that you think you are part of the Japanese elite........Pehaps take up some hobbies outside of aviation !
Haha, I don't know who you've been talking to but it evidently isn't me if you think I fit into any of those descriptions. I can't say that I dislike every aspect of the job because I don't but I'm pretty ambivalent about the whole thing. I'm not a hater of the job but I'm also not a lover. There are plenty of things that need to be improved and I've made my feelings known both verbally and in writing to the Company and I do not think things need to kept secret from any potential joiners etc. But let's have facts and proof, instead of unsubstantiated numbers. I have no desire to be part of the "Japanese elite" (whatever you may think that means) and definitely don't qualify for that. As for hobbies outside of aviation; I don't know why you think that matters but I have nothing to do with aviation when I go home and don't consider it a hobby. I may have done once but kids, sailing and certain sporting activities take up enough of my time without adding aviation to the mix. Maybe you're referring to my private G5 but I don't consider that a hobby, more of a necessity.

ALL of your posts have only ever been negative. That's fine if you feel that way but just because someone has a balanced view doesn't mean they are "drinking Kool Aid" (ridiculous expression). You said, "They seem to fail 50% of Direct entry captains". I have said I do not believe that is correct and asked you to support your statement. Just because I am at odds with your spurious statistics does not mean that I am some sort of Company stooge; it just means that I've never seen that sort of failure rate. I very much look forward to seeing your proof of your statement and backing up an opinion that is different to mine.
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Old 14th Sep 2018, 22:19
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How many days a month are you guys typically overnighting in Narita vs layover away from base?
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Old 15th Sep 2018, 18:46
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drop24, Out of a 16 day roster (taking 10 off + 2 commuting days + 2 vacation days) you will be about 8 nights in Narita give or take.
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Old 16th Sep 2018, 15:40
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Sorry to interrupt your heated discussion gentlemen but I would like to ask all of you an "environment psychological" question...How do you all coupe with the risks associated to natural disasters like earthquakes, typhoons, radiation, contaminated foods, and so on?Do you feel on continuous threat? If not, do you consider it as a kind of psychological denial?
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Old 20th Sep 2018, 00:57
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Originally Posted by gorce View Post
Sorry to interrupt your heated discussion gentlemen but I would like to ask all of you an "environment psychological" question...How do you all coupe with the risks associated to natural disasters like earthquakes, typhoons, radiation, contaminated foods, and so on?Do you feel on continuous threat? If not, do you consider it as a kind of psychological denial?
If you go through life worrying about all of that stuff, you will die an early death. It is what it is. Those types of things can happen almost anywhere in the world. When this last typhoon went through Kansai, I was in the hotel at the KIX airport. It was what it was. I rode it out while filming a lot of it. Then after it was gone, me and the f/o walked around looking at the sites and all the people trying to get out. We then retired to our rooms and relaxed while watching movies on our laptops.

You just can't let things you can't control affect your life.
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Old 24th Sep 2018, 18:53
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I would like to second Fratemate.
Dont know what Armani has been drinking or smoking, but guess it ain't coolaid!
This is not the perfect job, but since very few of us can join Delta as senior Captains, this is close to the top.
14 days at home every month, decent to good money and not having to deal with the Chinese, that's not bad in my book.
For info, I came as JCAB DEC, its not that difficult. If You come with worldwide wide-body experience, its a matter of opening Your ears and shutting Your mouth, except for the obligatory Yes Sir and Ohh I see, then You will do fine.

Best regards
Heavydane
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