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Old 29th May 2017, 13:02
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Rumor mill from a friend at NCA is that AJX lost 21 pilots last month (or something close to that). Any truth? What gives?
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Old 30th May 2017, 08:39
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Excellent scheduling, interesting destinations and the payrise Michael, simple formula.
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Old 30th May 2017, 11:16
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Rumor mill from a friend at NCA is that AJX lost 21 pilots last month (or something close to that).
Hobbit has hit on the reasons why and there are significant numbers leaving or have left, certainly compared to the past. But, 21 is a complete load of garbage, as is 'something close to that' and it does us no good whatsoever to have silly numbers bandied around that bear no resemblance to the truth. If we come out with nonsense then any of the Company or agency stooges that read these threads just laugh at the ridiculous rumours and fail to take any notice of the genuine concerns and reasons for people leaving. In a company that is as small as AJX if two pilots left in one month it would be significant and if that happened for two or three months then it would be huge enough for any stooge to sit up and take notice. We DO have those sort of numbers leaving and the reasons DO need to be addressed. Those are real numbers, 21 (or close) is just complete rubbish.
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Old 30th May 2017, 12:41
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Originally Posted by Fratemate View Post
Hobbit has hit on the reasons why and there are significant numbers leaving or have left, certainly compared to the past. But, 21 is a complete load of garbage, as is 'something close to that' and it does us no good whatsoever to have silly numbers bandied around that bear no resemblance to the truth. If we come out with nonsense then any of the Company or agency stooges that read these threads just laugh at the ridiculous rumours and fail to take any notice of the genuine concerns and reasons for people leaving. In a company that is as small as AJX if two pilots left in one month it would be significant and if that happened for two or three months then it would be huge enough for any stooge to sit up and take notice. We DO have those sort of numbers leaving and the reasons DO need to be addressed. Those are real numbers, 21 (or close) is just complete rubbish.
Thanks. I wasn't trying to spread false rumors or stir the pot, I was just genuinely interested. NCA has lost a significant amount of pilots in the last six months (I was one of them), causing concern over there for very similar reasons.
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Old 2nd Jun 2017, 08:08
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Having just recently been through Course, I have to say that the advertised time off for a new hire going through the initial course is definitely NOT what was presented to us when the initial enrolment began. Having days off at home before a 6 month period will not happen, and when the Initial training period ends, you'll get home for 8-10 days, then back to Narita for a Minimum of 2 months. In total - 8 months in Tokyo/Narita, and this is the Minimum amount of time needed to complete the 767 course for a non rated pilot. Parc and Crew are very misleading in advertising the time off during training. (we were told home after 3 months) then back for 2...

Buyer beware - although the gig seems to be good once you hit the line, but have your family prepared for 3/4 of a year of misery.
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Old 2nd Jun 2017, 09:44
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flyer142, your feedback is of paramount importance! Thank you!
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Old 2nd Jun 2017, 17:49
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What exactly happens during this massive training period to make it take so long?
My previous type rating (also a wide body Boeing) was completed fairly quickly, and that's even with a few days off in the middle of the course. I was back home after 5 weeks which included company inductions and other related courses. I don't get how a 767 rating can be so complex.
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Old 2nd Jun 2017, 23:23
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It's not only the type rating mate. The JCAB requires Air Law, Radio Law, and several other tick the box items, even when you come across with an ATP. That in itself takes a month. Then the company training starts followed by another month of CBT - then the over 10 flat panel sims, and 17 simulator sessions for the type rating. Once you finally achieve the type rating - wait for it - another 6 sims for the ATP conversion. That's at the 6 month mark. Once that's completed you do a medical, and English exam (another tick the box JCAB) then you get home for 9 days. Returning to NRT you attend another 3 weeks of ground school, route FAM stuff, then do 3 more sims, then do line training, which brings you to at least another 2 months, thus totalling roughly 8 months with 9 days at home - though I must add several days off in Tokyo in between Sims/groundschool.
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Old 3rd Jun 2017, 12:27
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Old 4th Jun 2017, 03:53
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Hey guys,

Thanks to al for the valuable posts. Been reading here for a while.
I have some questions and hope someone has some info.

ANY guys/gals here with CReW from the US, but not residing in the US?

Looking to see what taxes are deducted by CReW to give me an idea. If anyone is brave enough to PM me a figure or post a percentage it would be greatly appreciated.

* on a side note: I know CReW is a US company and I also hold a US passport (Dual Citizen), but my assumption was I would not have monthly taxes withheld if not residing in the US (thought it would be my own responsibility at the end of the year.
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Old 4th Jun 2017, 05:49
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one should not forget to mention the mental and emotional stress involved with this marathon training session. Be very prepared for this, otherwise the stress will eat you up.
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Old 4th Jun 2017, 07:41
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machpoint89

speak to a tax accountant who knows his stuff about this, don't rely on a rumour forum for this kind of thing. The penalties, if you get it wrong, are not worth it.
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Old 4th Jun 2017, 08:41
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Originally Posted by gtseraf View Post
machpoint89

speak to a tax accountant who knows his stuff about this, don't rely on a rumour forum for this kind of thing. The penalties, if you get it wrong, are not worth it.
Understood was hoping to get a ballpark figure. Thanks for the reply and will contact a CPA/Tax accountant
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Old 6th Jun 2017, 01:55
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If you hold a USA passport, then CReW will deduct normal US taxes (Federal, Social Security and Medicare). I does not matter where you live.
I you are a resident of another country, and a US Citizen, you get the first $105,000 (about) tax free and rest is taxed as if you made the whole amount.
But to get this "Foreign Earned Income Exemption" you need to file a tax return and get a refund.
Of course you can set extra exemptions on your W-4 to have less deducted
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We have many different plans going for taxes depending on your accountant.
Get an accountant specializing in expat taxes, it will cost $400-800 per year but will save a ton on a long run, and keep you out of trouble.

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Old 9th Jul 2017, 01:54
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What does the pay scale look like for a Captain after his first 5 year contract?

I see five year Captain on their website pays $17,511 a month for year 5. What about year 6 and beyond?
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Old 9th Jul 2017, 10:21
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Haha, I'd love to know where those numbers come from.

I'm quite significantly more than 5 years and my pay slip says:

Standard rate (for a captain): 12768
Experience pay (how long you've been there): 1062
Accommodation: 550
Per diem (it's called something else but we know what this means): 976

So, that's 15356

They'll doubtless argue about additions, so let's look at those.

I get a 1000 pension addition that then is deducted for a pension contribution.

There are additional hotel/accommodation allowances depending on exchange rates and the difference in what the hotel is charging and what they're paying. This is subjected to the most complicated formula known to man and nobody understands it. The main point being is that it is only an addition to make up for shoddy exchange rates and the fact that they don't pay you enough in the first place to pay your hotel bill.....so you're not getting any extra, just what should come under the accommodation part of your salary.

There are landing allowances paid only to captains. Basically it's $80 when you do a double landing in the crappy hours of the morning. It's supposed to make up for the $500/month they stole from the AJV captains when they combined the companies but it doesn't and is a complete farce. You might see an extra $240/month on a normal month.

They are probably factoring in the $2000 commuting allowance but if you use the C class option then that is removed entirely from your salary. If you slum it down the back of economy on standby and pocket an extra $1000/month after tax, then well done you and thanks for giving the company the idea that commuting long distances in that manner is acceptable.

If you use the C class option and get all the allowances above then your pay check will say closer to 16220 and that's > than a 5 year captain.

The basic answer to your query, though, is that the basic salary does increase after 5 years and you'll be able to be able to buy an extra $20/month of beer on that HUGE increase. Don't go spending it all at once and don't believe the obvious bu*#%^it that's being promulgated on the agency websites.
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Old 9th Jul 2017, 11:12
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Thanks for the detailed reply. The figure was off of CREW website under their application for Captains.
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Old 9th Jul 2017, 11:19
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Originally Posted by Fratemate View Post
Haha, I'd love to know where those numbers come from.

I'm quite significantly more than 5 years and my pay slip says:

Standard rate (for a captain): 12768
Experience pay (how long you've been there): 1062
Accommodation: 550
Per diem (it's called something else but we know what this means): 976

So, that's 15356

They'll doubtless argue about additions, so let's look at those.

I get a 1000 pension addition that then is deducted for a pension contribution.

There are additional hotel/accommodation allowances depending on exchange rates and the difference in what the hotel is charging and what they're paying. This is subjected to the most complicated formula known to man and nobody understands it. The main point being is that it is only an addition to make up for shoddy exchange rates and the fact that they don't pay you enough in the first place to pay your hotel bill.....so you're not getting any extra, just what should come under the accommodation part of your salary.

There are landing allowances paid only to captains. Basically it's $80 when you do a double landing in the crappy hours of the morning. It's supposed to make up for the $500/month they stole from the AJV captains when they combined the companies but it doesn't and is a complete farce. You might see an extra $240/month on a normal month.

They are probably factoring in the $2000 commuting allowance but if you use the C class option then that is removed entirely from your salary. If you slum it down the back of economy on standby and pocket an extra $1000/month after tax, then well done you and thanks for giving the company the idea that commuting long distances in that manner is acceptable.

If you use the C class option and get all the allowances above then your pay check will say closer to 16220 and that's > than a 5 year captain.

The basic answer to your query, though, is that the basic salary does increase after 5 years and you'll be able to be able to buy an extra $20/month of beer on that HUGE increase. Don't go spending it all at once and don't believe the obvious bu*#%^it that's being promulgated on the agency websites.
And off of this website
https://chp.tbe.taleo.net/chp01/ats/careers/v2/viewRequisition?org=HACS&cws=39&rid=12

Thanks
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Old 11th Jul 2017, 04:39
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it seems as if prospective employers for many contracts are quite happy to quote total package as the pay check, not mentioning that accomodation, meals, commuting, tax, pension, etc. etc. etc. comes off that "paycheck". Frate has it very spot on.
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Old 11th Jul 2017, 10:27
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The agency's are under pressure to provide more crews, they have to provide more money, its that simple. Now we have staff shortages, the Captains might get a lift in salary by more multiple midnight landings!
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