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Old 11th Jan 2017, 11:52
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The chances of foreign pilots at mainline ANA are between "Have you lost your mind?" And "No way in hell" and those are the optimistic chances.
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Thanks. In case something comes up i would really appreciate if you guys would share it here. Cheers
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Old 11th Jan 2017, 13:41
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Originally Posted by The Dominican
The chances of foreign pilots at mainline ANA are between "Have you lost your mind?" And "No way in hell" and those are the optimistic chances.
Ahahaha!
I have to agree that knowing the country it would be "unlikely" let's say.
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Old 13th Jan 2017, 19:28
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Interview coming up at AJX

Hi all

I have an interview coming up with AJX in February. If I get through that I believe there is a second in Tokyo.

If anybody here with VERY RECENT EXPERIENCE like the last 6 months willing to comment on the technical questions asked and sim check and what to expect especially regarding the use of checklists (read and do or memorise completely) as well as the sim ride itself.

Also most importantly is the fact that the training is 6 to 8 months in Japan. My wife is pregnant with our first child, due in June of this year.

As you can imagine it is a big deal for me. So my question is will they allow my wife to be with me during training as I am nott missing the first 8 months of my new daughters life, no job is worth that. 2 visits just wont cut it.

As mentioned this is for recent experience guys willing to help so please dont tell me to read the entire thread, if you dont want to answer then dont but dont leave a smart a$s comment either.

To those who do I appreciate the help.
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Old 14th Jan 2017, 15:05
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Also interested in what Luggage asked

I would imagine you could arrange for your family to be with you during the training. I also have a very young one at home and that would be a deal breaker if they couldn't. 3 weeks away at a time is manageable, 6-8 months, not going to happen!

Thanks to all who contribute to the questions

-200LR
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Old 14th Jan 2017, 22:02
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I did my course a long time ago, my second child was born during the course, zero sympathy fro the company. The Japanese way of doing things is company first, then family. I expect it is still very much the same.

I'd be very careful bringing a family along during the course, especially young kids. The course is long and demanding of your attention throughout. Having the family there can be a distraction which could affect your chances of success. This issue of the course length has been brought up repeatedly but the company will not consider a change.

If you do bring family along, expect ZERO understanding or compromise from the training side of things.

Possibly some of the newer recruits could clarify things now.
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Old 15th Jan 2017, 09:21
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Agree with gtseraf,
The performance of some guys who have had their wife/family with them, for an extended period, has suffered. Not saying don't do it just think long and hard about leaving your current gig to fail here because you had a wife and new baby with you.
As gtseraf says, you will not get special treatment or extra days off.
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Old 15th Jan 2017, 10:37
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Equally conformity is a huge part of the Japanese psyche - as stated the expectation is company then family and for gaijin the expectation is that families will NOT be present during your training.

If one of your first acts is to NOT conform by bringing the family some will view this neutrally - however some will view this with varying degrees of concern and question your suitability.

Should you strike one of the second group during your training....well in hindsight maybe a problem you created if your path to the final checkride becomes bumpy, maybe even impassable.

Lots to consider!
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Old 15th Jan 2017, 21:22
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Galdian,

Just out of curiosity, are any gaijins as trainers or TRI/TREs?

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Old 15th Jan 2017, 22:28
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Broom

you'll only see some foreign instructors when you start the OJT/line training/IOE. All the initial sim training, evals, progress checks and checks are conducted by Japanese pilots.
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Old 15th Jan 2017, 22:58
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Broom

To put it another way - until Hell Freezes Over you will never see a gaijin in a Checking position in Japanese aviation IMHO.

Cheers.
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Old 17th Jan 2017, 12:50
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Thanks Galdian, makes perfect sense to me. Somehow I expected that would be the case.

I work (no contract job, full career) for a small but solid cargo outfit, flying 767s, and from time to time I am tempted to leave for this contract job. Still undecided.

Safe flights!

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Old 18th Jan 2017, 02:13
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Broomstick:

My advice is to stay far away from this place mate.
This is not a good place to work anymore, and these blokes fail people for no reason. If you have a job stay far away, but if not then we all need to put bread in the table.

Originally Posted by Broomstick Flier
Thanks Galdian, makes perfect sense to me. Somehow I expected that would be the case.

I work (no contract job, full career) for a small but solid cargo outfit, flying 767s, and from time to time I am tempted to leave for this contract job. Still undecided.

Safe flights!

BF
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 08:55
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Armani is right and until they sort out the pay and scheduling I won't be recommending this place to anyone.

Dabbling around with the accommodation allowance is absolutely pathetic and just shows how seriously they're actually taking our comments on the things that do matter. As usual, the contract companies are noticeable by their absence or complete and utter impotence in achieving anything useful.

The days off are okay; no better than that. The business class commuting is great and that needs to be acknowledged. The rest is just really falling behind and every day it gets worse. We spend more time in the ****e country, that is China, than even those pilots based there but get nowhere near the money. We have never had a pay rise in the time I've been here and the contract companies do not give one crap that the cost of living has risen dramatically in all our home countries. They are spineless 'yes' men that do not want to upset the apple cart and actually represent our requirements to AJX/ANA.

I will serve out my contract because I have the 'completion bonus' not too far away but, after that, they'd better sort out the things that matter and stop dicking around on the periphery or else I'll be off to other places.....where I will NEVER have to visit China or hear Chinese ever again. Yes, Nirvana.

If you've got a 'full career' where you are and live at home then stay there. The grass is not greener.
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 14:44
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Thanks for the insightful posts gents.

I will stay put for the time being and keep an eye on the developments on this contract.

Safe flights!

BF
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Old 19th Jan 2017, 09:31
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Obviously the lizard hasn't been here very long.

As for the accommodation allowance, in 2001 it was $500 I believe and now it's $550. That says a lot about what AJX thinks of their contract staff. And the allowances for training is less now than than 2001! Again, what does that say? As for the recent improvement, it's embarrassing.

If you're thinking of coming here, good ruck.
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Old 20th Jan 2017, 03:31
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What they said...The company somehow manages to keep adding salt to the injury year after year. It is a fact that we are only considered as second-class hired helps - same as how they consider foreign workers in other industries throughout the country. Why we still have people applying here and go through the training is beyond me. Obviously there must be far worse, third class airline outfits out there I don't know about. As long as we have pilots applying for these crappy, sub-par terms and conditions, the company will never change (come to think of it, they really haven't changed for the past 15 years). I'm still here; so don't know how much weight my statement carries.
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Old 27th Jan 2017, 19:50
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Binned my interview

I just binned my interview with AJX. I have been reading this thread and it seems the place is going down.

Pilots are clearly not a happy bunch there and the Js dont seem to accommodating to families during training. I have a baby arriving in June so m=not prepared to miss out on her first year with training and study.

Good luck to all who go but from what I can gather the contract and airline need some big improvements which dont seem to becoming anytime soon.

Im currently flying the Embraer 175 in the US with other interview options in the US, Hong Kong and Europe so it would seem crazy to accept the terms by AJX.

I certainly hope things get better there for the pilots working there. Seems like it could be a great outfit if things change.
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Old 3rd Feb 2017, 23:56
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Searching for Jalways Rumor

Does anyone can update jalways rumor?
According to some pilot forum, jalways will start again april this year, but until now I cannot find any further action.
To tell the truth I am waiting AJX FO position, if Jalways will start soon, I wanna know their contact condition.
Two option better than one ^^
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Old 4th Feb 2017, 09:00
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You and everyone else compadre.......!
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