U.S. expat looking work in India
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FAA/ATP A320 Capt avail for work in India or China. Which is the preferred company to work for and which city is the preferred base. What are the working conditions like, trips-layovers-MX-ATC, and such? Is there any one Agent that is better to use when finding Expat employment? Love to talk to a few guys who are working there now. Send me a message and I'll get back to you ASAP.
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I might agree that immigration issues might be problematic in most every country when it comes to pilots wanting to practice their trade. And maybe "our" President may not have the not have the smoothest diplomatic policy but don't you dare throw your lame ass political views out here while you are sitting in NEW YORK.
I might agree that immigration issues might be problematic in most every country when it comes to pilots wanting to practice their trade. And maybe "our" President may not have the not have the smoothest diplomatic policy but don't you dare throw your lame ass political views out here while you are sitting in NEW YORK.
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I feel that an accusatory political response to someone simply trying to obtain employment information is not warranted on this forum. There is a time and place for political views. At the same time I am not saying that you are not entitled to your views.
To the A320 Capt looking. I can tell you by being on this forum, that anyone who has PIC time(500) in type on the aircraft the airline is flying has a great chance of getting a contract. You can either contact the airline directly, and in many cases they will either process you or ask you to go through an agency. Parc, Directpersonnel, Rishworth are a few names. Contracts are 6-12 months and are renewable. They include accomdodations, and transport to/from the airport. Expect to make between $8500-9000 USD/month without overtime. Overtime will add a 1,000/1500 a month. Schedules are unlike those here, and you can forget about 15-20 days off/month. Plan on working around 5 days/week. CRM is lacking still, training is limited. F/O's can be somewhat experienced but at times you are with a 250-1000 hr F/O. ATC can be challenging. MX seems to be acceptable. As a Capt in India you will be treated quite well, and find it a pleasant change coming from here!
Hope this helps. Wish you the best. BTW if you take your family, Expat schools are quite expensive, but the equivalent Indian schools are superb in terms of academics. PM me if I can be of any further assistance.
To the A320 Capt looking. I can tell you by being on this forum, that anyone who has PIC time(500) in type on the aircraft the airline is flying has a great chance of getting a contract. You can either contact the airline directly, and in many cases they will either process you or ask you to go through an agency. Parc, Directpersonnel, Rishworth are a few names. Contracts are 6-12 months and are renewable. They include accomdodations, and transport to/from the airport. Expect to make between $8500-9000 USD/month without overtime. Overtime will add a 1,000/1500 a month. Schedules are unlike those here, and you can forget about 15-20 days off/month. Plan on working around 5 days/week. CRM is lacking still, training is limited. F/O's can be somewhat experienced but at times you are with a 250-1000 hr F/O. ATC can be challenging. MX seems to be acceptable. As a Capt in India you will be treated quite well, and find it a pleasant change coming from here!
Hope this helps. Wish you the best. BTW if you take your family, Expat schools are quite expensive, but the equivalent Indian schools are superb in terms of academics. PM me if I can be of any further assistance.
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What are the chances for a US citizen with 500 TT 100 Multi . FAA & CAA license. First Officer position any place in India with a self sponsered Type Rating . Please reply
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What are the chances for a US citizen with 500 TT 100 Multi . FAA & CAA license. First Officer position any place in India with a self sponsered Type Rating . Please reply
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"From what i have been reading on the indian threads on this forum, only indian passport holders can apply for FO positions in india.
cheers,"
Why can Jet Airways offer 100 F/O-Jobs to pilots in Germany? Can't believe that they expect that there are so many Indian passport-holders with ATPLs!
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"From what i have been reading on the indian threads on this forum, only indian passport holders can apply for FO positions in india.
cheers,"
Why can Jet Airways offer 100 F/O-Jobs to pilots in Germany? Can't believe that they expect that there are so many Indian passport-holders with ATPLs!
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dont think i get your question, but right now to be employed as an FO in india, your dont need an ATPL. With so many aircraft, a basic CPL is good enough, unless you are looking at the left hand seat.
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OTR
dont think i get your question, but right now to be employed as an FO in india, your dont need an ATPL. With so many aircraft, a basic CPL is good enough, unless you are looking at the left hand seat.
cheers,
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Suppose a US Citizen (who plays Dhol and studies Hindi in his spare time) with 600+TT/240 Multi/200 Jet (and potentially self procured type) goes to India on vacation and passes the necessary written exams and local checkrides to convert FAA Licenses into the equivalent DGCA licenses.
Any better off?
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Here is the basic India job decision tree:
1. Are you an Indian Citizen /OCI?
Ans: yes---- You can work in India as a pilot but you have to convert all your licenses to Indian ones. Low time ok for F/O jobs. If you hire as an "Indian" then you have to have Indian credentials.
Ans : No-- You must have 500 hrs PIC in the aircraft the airline is currently flying. Also must be current within past 6 months. Must have ICAO ATP with appropriate type ratings. No need to convert licenses. You fly on ICAO licenses bu have to take a few tests that the airline helps you with as well as a medical.
1. Are you an Indian Citizen /OCI?
Ans: yes---- You can work in India as a pilot but you have to convert all your licenses to Indian ones. Low time ok for F/O jobs. If you hire as an "Indian" then you have to have Indian credentials.
Ans : No-- You must have 500 hrs PIC in the aircraft the airline is currently flying. Also must be current within past 6 months. Must have ICAO ATP with appropriate type ratings. No need to convert licenses. You fly on ICAO licenses bu have to take a few tests that the airline helps you with as well as a medical.
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Folks, the DGCA has revised their "entry" requirements for foreign flight crew (including that for co-pilots). Here are a few excerpts........
The entire document can be found at
http://www.dgca.nic.in/cars/d7g-g2.pdf
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LICENCE AND EXPERIENCE REQUIREMENTS
(i) The flight crew should have been properly licenced and rated on the type of
aircraft by the competent authority of a contracting State in accordance with
the ICAO requirements and acceptable to DGCA India. A verification of the
licences and ratings from the issuing authority is required to be submitted by
the operator.
(ii) The foreign licence should be valid with current ratings on the type of Indian
registered aircraft proposed to be flown/maintained.
(iii) The flight crew should have current medical fitness certificates (Class I).
(i) The flight crew should have been properly licenced and rated on the type of
aircraft by the competent authority of a contracting State in accordance with
the ICAO requirements and acceptable to DGCA India. A verification of the
licences and ratings from the issuing authority is required to be submitted by
the operator.
(ii) The foreign licence should be valid with current ratings on the type of Indian
registered aircraft proposed to be flown/maintained.
(iii) The flight crew should have current medical fitness certificates (Class I).
For operation as PIC the flight crew should have a minimum of 100 hours
flying experience as PIC on the type of fixed wing aircraft with not less
than 2000 hrs PIC experience.
flying experience as PIC on the type of fixed wing aircraft with not less
than 2000 hrs PIC experience.
The flight crew, to be appointed as Co-pilot on fixed wing aircraft, shall
have a valid Professional Pilot’s Licence with
a) Minimum 100 hours on type as P2, or
b) Minimum 500 hours total on multi-engine, or
c) Minimum 1000 hours total flying experience with type of aircraft
endorsed.
have a valid Professional Pilot’s Licence with
a) Minimum 100 hours on type as P2, or
b) Minimum 500 hours total on multi-engine, or
c) Minimum 1000 hours total flying experience with type of aircraft
endorsed.
http://www.dgca.nic.in/cars/d7g-g2.pdf
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OCI allowed to work as an Indian for F/O jobs?
Is it really true that an OCI with no more that the base requirements of a CPL with multiengine rating and roughly 200 hrs is eligible to work as a F/O?
Where could I find reliable information on this? Is there something issued by the DGCA or any other government organization?
If anyone knows please help. I am eligible for US citizenship and I am not sure if I should take it or not because I want to return to India and work as a pilot.
Thanks,
Kurt
Where could I find reliable information on this? Is there something issued by the DGCA or any other government organization?
If anyone knows please help. I am eligible for US citizenship and I am not sure if I should take it or not because I want to return to India and work as a pilot.
Thanks,
Kurt
Here is the basic India job decision tree:
1. Are you an Indian Citizen /OCI?
Ans: yes---- You can work in India as a pilot but you have to convert all your licenses to Indian ones. Low time ok for F/O jobs. If you hire as an "Indian" then you have to have Indian credentials.
Ans : No-- You must have 500 hrs PIC in the aircraft the airline is currently flying. Also must be current within past 6 months. Must have ICAO ATP with appropriate type ratings. No need to convert licenses. You fly on ICAO licenses bu have to take a few tests that the airline helps you with as well as a medical.
1. Are you an Indian Citizen /OCI?
Ans: yes---- You can work in India as a pilot but you have to convert all your licenses to Indian ones. Low time ok for F/O jobs. If you hire as an "Indian" then you have to have Indian credentials.
Ans : No-- You must have 500 hrs PIC in the aircraft the airline is currently flying. Also must be current within past 6 months. Must have ICAO ATP with appropriate type ratings. No need to convert licenses. You fly on ICAO licenses bu have to take a few tests that the airline helps you with as well as a medical.
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I know an american FO that was hired in India with 50 hours on type. Several thousand hours of flight experience though. They did not have to write any of the Indian ATPL exams. They did have a FAA ATP.
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living in India
I've travelled extensively in Southeast Asia for the past 25 years and have spent periods of time in India.
At present there are a lot of MNC folks living in different parts of the country, mostly executives, entrepreneurs, educationists, spiritual and health care seekers, dual residents etc.
Living in India can be an adventure on its own for a "Westerner". Contagious diseases , hygiene, bureaucracy, visible poverty, communal unrest, unpredictable availability of basic necessities like water and electricity etc. Most folks who travel regularly and relocate are aware of these conditions and prepare themselves and their families.
The outsourced pilot in India is basically, a highly paid manual laborer. As pilots, we are sometimes too focused on getting into a cockpit, that we forget about the whole picture surrounding us.
Indian folks are warm, courteous, patient and compassionate. If you ask for directions on a street corner, you may have an entire crowd leading you to your destination. The slums are safe and you will not get mugged. The poorest folks in this nation have the greatest Pride i have seen in a people.
Anyways, before you decide to sign that .........line, take a trip by yourself /wife/kids and experience India. It may be "for better or for worse", not just a repeat after me statement.
At present there are a lot of MNC folks living in different parts of the country, mostly executives, entrepreneurs, educationists, spiritual and health care seekers, dual residents etc.
Living in India can be an adventure on its own for a "Westerner". Contagious diseases , hygiene, bureaucracy, visible poverty, communal unrest, unpredictable availability of basic necessities like water and electricity etc. Most folks who travel regularly and relocate are aware of these conditions and prepare themselves and their families.
The outsourced pilot in India is basically, a highly paid manual laborer. As pilots, we are sometimes too focused on getting into a cockpit, that we forget about the whole picture surrounding us.
Indian folks are warm, courteous, patient and compassionate. If you ask for directions on a street corner, you may have an entire crowd leading you to your destination. The slums are safe and you will not get mugged. The poorest folks in this nation have the greatest Pride i have seen in a people.
Anyways, before you decide to sign that .........line, take a trip by yourself /wife/kids and experience India. It may be "for better or for worse", not just a repeat after me statement.
