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Hello there,
I have just been offered a position with HACS as a DEC on the Q400 with A-Net. After reading the contract it says that i am responsible for my own visas.
I understand the contract is a commuting contract however i would like to know what the visa requirements are should i wish to reside in Osaka (also for my wife).
Kaptain M, Osaka Joe - any info would be appreciated.
Cheers Red
I have just been offered a position with HACS as a DEC on the Q400 with A-Net. After reading the contract it says that i am responsible for my own visas.
I understand the contract is a commuting contract however i would like to know what the visa requirements are should i wish to reside in Osaka (also for my wife).
Kaptain M, Osaka Joe - any info would be appreciated.
Cheers Red
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Japanese work visa
Red,
Congrats on the job offer!
Here's a link to get you started.
http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/visa/03.html
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Congrats on the job offer!
Here's a link to get you started.
http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/visa/03.html
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You need a visa to work "in Japan" - even if it's a commuting contract. The only exception seems to be the guys in Air Japan who spend most of their time outside Japan (mostly international ops) and enter on a Gen Dec each time.
Whilst I haven't worked for ANA, I did require a work visa for the two Japanese operators I have worked for. I think the reason they say you'll be responsible for your own visa is that you have to attend the immigration department in person to submit the paperwork. The company will prepare the paperwork for you (in fact you can't get a work visa WITHOUT the company doing the paperwork.)
If you nominate a dependant they'll include them in the paperwork. The cost is only around 4,000 yen for a 3 year visa.
Whilst I haven't worked for ANA, I did require a work visa for the two Japanese operators I have worked for. I think the reason they say you'll be responsible for your own visa is that you have to attend the immigration department in person to submit the paperwork. The company will prepare the paperwork for you (in fact you can't get a work visa WITHOUT the company doing the paperwork.)
If you nominate a dependant they'll include them in the paperwork. The cost is only around 4,000 yen for a 3 year visa.
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Yes, Congrats on successfully negotiating all of the hurdles, VR - no mean task 
I think you'll find that what they mean by that, is that you will be expected to pay the cost of your visas.
You'll be given supporting documentataion by All Nippon for your work visa - you should also request a letter from them, naming each of your dependants that you wish to have reside with you.
I've written an extensive review on visa info here, Working & living in (Osaka) Japan...some tips and hints, which should answer most of your Q's, VR. Feel free to post any other questions you have, here or at P!REP, and I'll do my best to reply.
i am responsible for my own visas
You'll be given supporting documentataion by All Nippon for your work visa - you should also request a letter from them, naming each of your dependants that you wish to have reside with you.
I've written an extensive review on visa info here, Working & living in (Osaka) Japan...some tips and hints, which should answer most of your Q's, VR. Feel free to post any other questions you have, here or at P!REP, and I'll do my best to reply.
Moderate, Modest & Mild.
One other thing just came to mind, VR, wrt the "i am responsible for my own visas".
In fact, legally the airline and the contractor will be responsible for guaranteeing and ensuring certain aspects of your employment status to allow that visa to be issued, so I would make the payments of such their responsibility.
It's an employee tax deduction for them - it is NOT, for you. It is a considerable sum for an individual!
Also, I will be asking my contractor to arrange for 2 days - on normal pay - during the visa issue/renewal month to be assigned to me to deal with it.
Each time I have done it for myself, and family members, it has taken the best part of the day in travel, waiting, processing, and return travel, to deal with it.
Remember, there are TWO trips involved each time with the visa issues.
In fact, legally the airline and the contractor will be responsible for guaranteeing and ensuring certain aspects of your employment status to allow that visa to be issued, so I would make the payments of such their responsibility.
It's an employee tax deduction for them - it is NOT, for you. It is a considerable sum for an individual!
Also, I will be asking my contractor to arrange for 2 days - on normal pay - during the visa issue/renewal month to be assigned to me to deal with it.
Each time I have done it for myself, and family members, it has taken the best part of the day in travel, waiting, processing, and return travel, to deal with it.
Remember, there are TWO trips involved each time with the visa issues.
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Thanks for that info Kaptain M, very helpful. I am so pleased i was able to get thru that medical during the interviews, what an ordeal.
As far as the visas go, my wife is looking at doing a language teaching course before she decides to join me in Osaka. That would require her to obtain her own work visa correct? As far as i can see a dependant visa is exactly that, they are dependant on you and thus not able to obtain work themselves.
Also, the schedule is that i am to spend one month in Tokyo to begin with and then three months in Toronto for ground school/sim. For that month when i am in Tokyo since i will be doing general company orientation/introduction etc etc (as far as i know) will i be able to enter on a visa or will i have to try and arrange the work visa prior to that?
I guess when i enter the country and they ask me what my business is in Japan i just say training and then finalise the work visa after that.
I am still a little confused about the whole thing.
As far as the visas go, my wife is looking at doing a language teaching course before she decides to join me in Osaka. That would require her to obtain her own work visa correct? As far as i can see a dependant visa is exactly that, they are dependant on you and thus not able to obtain work themselves.
Also, the schedule is that i am to spend one month in Tokyo to begin with and then three months in Toronto for ground school/sim. For that month when i am in Tokyo since i will be doing general company orientation/introduction etc etc (as far as i know) will i be able to enter on a visa or will i have to try and arrange the work visa prior to that?
I guess when i enter the country and they ask me what my business is in Japan i just say training and then finalise the work visa after that.
I am still a little confused about the whole thing.
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As far as your wife goes, I would recommend you get her a dependent's visa, and then IF and WHEN she picks up work, she can have a work visa added.
Otherwise, if she is relying on having a working visa only, her length of stay will be determined by the term of her employment here.
Her dependant's visa will be for the same length as your's - usually 3 or 5 years.
Usual practice is to enter on a normal, temporary visitor's visa (the same as is issued to tourists) - you can give the reason as "company orientation, or training".
For the initial work visa to be issued, you must be OUTSIDE Japan at the time of application. This is usually done after you do your initial JCAB sim check.
Once you receive the certificate from the company, your work visa will be issued by a Japanese consulate in your home country.
Upon arrival in Osaka, it is then time to start this process
I'm sure you're not Robinson Crusoe. The agencies have no actual experience of this themselves, and foreign pilots residing in Japan are relatively few (most are commuting), hence info is hard to come by.
Otherwise, if she is relying on having a working visa only, her length of stay will be determined by the term of her employment here.
Her dependant's visa will be for the same length as your's - usually 3 or 5 years.
For that month when i am in Tokyo since i will be doing general company orientation/introduction etc etc (as far as i know) will i be able to enter on a visa
For the initial work visa to be issued, you must be OUTSIDE Japan at the time of application. This is usually done after you do your initial JCAB sim check.
Once you receive the certificate from the company, your work visa will be issued by a Japanese consulate in your home country.
Upon arrival in Osaka, it is then time to start this process
I am still a little confused about the whole thing
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VR,
You will enter Japan on a Tourist Visa as the ol' Kaptin M says but make sure u don't say that you are in town for training. I've heard that requires a different visa. Just say business meeting and u be fine.
BTW congrats on the job offer. If u need any details on the training in tokyo or toronto feel free to send a PM.
Cheers
You will enter Japan on a Tourist Visa as the ol' Kaptin M says but make sure u don't say that you are in town for training. I've heard that requires a different visa. Just say business meeting and u be fine.
BTW congrats on the job offer. If u need any details on the training in tokyo or toronto feel free to send a PM.
Cheers
