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Old 29th Apr 2006, 11:25
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Anyone heard Rock Airways?

Saw a recruitment ad in the Straits Times looking for crew for this new low-cost outfit operating out of T1 in Singapore. Tried searching the net with zero results. Any clue?

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Old 29th Apr 2006, 12:23
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I also saw the advert, and found the website.
http://www.rockairway.com/

I believe its a new airline. The website's still under construction. Not sure what aircraft type they use though, or where they operate out from.
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Old 1st May 2006, 02:53
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Yep the website is under construction. Anyway, may I know on which day was the ad advertised? Thank you in advance. Cheers.
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It was on Saturday Recruitment. They were looking for cabin crew.
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I'm an attorney in South Korea.

I have had numeous enquiries from Korean women who applied to ANC (a training school in Korea for flight attendants) who interviewed for Rock Air.

The successful applicants had to PAY W7,000,000 ($U.S.7,000.00) to be appointed by this company. Some are now in Singapore

My initial reaction was that this is a scam.. however, not knowing the industry I am curious if this is standard - under Korean law it is illegal - but Singapore law I don't know.

Can anyone shed some light.

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Originally Posted by efl-law
I'm an attorney in South Korea.
I have had numeous enquiries from Korean women who applied to ANC (a training school in Korea for flight attendants) who interviewed for Rock Air.
The successful applicants had to PAY W7,000,000 ($U.S.7,000.00) to be appointed by this company. Some are now in Singapore
My initial reaction was that this is a scam.. however, not knowing the industry I am curious if this is standard - under Korean law it is illegal - but Singapore law I don't know.
Can anyone shed some light.
Thanks
Paul Robertson
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Take a look at the "Core Business Strategy" of Rock Airways:
http://www.rockairway.com/aboutus.htm

and then Tiger Airways:
http://www.tigerairways.com/about/facts-sheet.php

Who do you think copied whom, word for word?

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Old 10th May 2006, 14:57
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Wondering if this company has anything to do with Air Monarch based in Europe? Or was it another cut-and-paste thingy went wrong? Monarch was mentioned in the applicaton form.

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Old 10th May 2006, 15:43
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You can't compare Tiger with Rock Airway (the s is missing!).

Tiger is a genuinly established LCC who sticks purely to its model idols SWA and RYR. There is no compromise. Rock meanwhile tries something like being LCC and quality carrier at the same time. In this sense you have to compare them more with Valuair, of which we know it had to fail. In Rock Airway(s) homepage you see an EMB 170/190 with leather seats and 2 abreast cabin

The reason why all these hybrid LCC models rise here in Asia (see also India!) is that the real LCC model is not understood or not accepted (by their promotors). On the other hand you see that only real LCC survived and will survive. So the future of Rock is easily predictable. You remember Valuair's CEO Lim testimonies ("we deliver quality at a low cost price", "passenger want comfort and service", "we would fly the world") to find out that this model has no chance, as sad as it is.

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Originally Posted by Dani
You can't compare Tiger with Rock Airway (the s is missing!).
Tiger is a genuinly established LCC who sticks purely to its model idols SWA and RYR. There is no compromise. Rock meanwhile tries something like being LCC and quality carrier at the same time. In this sense you have to compare them more with Valuair, of which we know it had to fail. In Rock Airway(s) homepage you see an EMB 170/190 with leather seats and 2 abreast cabin
The reason why all these hybrid LCC models rise here in Asia (see also India!) is that the real LCC model is not understood or not accepted (by their promotors). On the other hand you see that only real LCC survived and will survive. So the future of Rock is easily predictable. You remember Valuair's CEO Lim testimonies ("we deliver quality at a low cost price", "passenger want comfort and service", "we would fly the world") to find out that this model has no chance, as sad as it is.
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Dani, my question was not really meant to be answered. But thank you anyway for taking it seriously.

Of course Tiger's core business strategy is the original one. Rock Airway (yeah no s) is doing a blatant copy-and-paste.

It's only a matter of time before the scam is exposed.
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More news on the so-called Rock Airway.

Original article (URL valid until article is archved in 6 days):
http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/news/st...06497,00.html?

NO APPROVAL TO FLY OUT OF CHANGI
No approval sought or received, says CAAS
ANOTHER airline could be rocking the budget carrier scene in Singapore soon.
By Tan May Ping

13 May 2006
ANOTHER airline could be rocking the budget carrier scene in Singapore soon.

How soon? Rock Airway claims it could take to the skies in six months.

But a check with the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) revealed that Rock Airway does not have approval to operate flights to or from Singapore. (See report on facing page.)

The carrier also has not contacted the aviation authority to obtain the necessary approvals to operate flights to or from Singapore, said a CAAS spokesman.

Yet its website already bills itself as an established low-cost airline and gives the impression that it is flying out of Changi Airport Terminal 1.

According to its website, it flies to Korea, Japan, Singapore, the Philippines, Hong Kong and Macau.

Several Internet forums have been buzzing with speculation over the past week since news of this 'new' budget carrier broke.

But the CAAS spokesman told The New Paper that it has written to the company asking it to remove anything that would give the impression that the airline has the approval of CAAS for its operations.

POLICE REPORT

A police spokesman also confirmed that someone has lodged a police report against the company.

She declined to go into details, but said the police are looking into the matter to establish if there has been any offence committed.

A search with the Registry of Companies and Businesses (RCB) showed that Rock Airway was registered on 25 Apr and its activity is listed as 'airline business'.

A shareholder, who is also one of two directors, is a South Korean whose registered address is in Hong Kong. The other director is a Singaporean C N Nachiappan.

When contacted at his home in Clementi, he declined to comment.

NOT READY YET

When contacted, Rock Airway's general manager, who only gave his name as Mr Lau, said the company was setting up a budget airline but that it was 'not ready for media coverage yet'.

He added: 'We are running a budget airline but it's not ready.'

He said that it would be ready in 'about half a year's time'.

Then why does the website give the impression that it is already operating out of Changi Airport?

Mr Lau put it down to its external agent.

He said: 'We outsourced people to do it. We got a hosting company to do it for us. It's just a test site but they put it all up. We haven't even had the time to vet the site yet.'

When told there has been some confusion surrounding the claims on the website, Mr Lau replied:

'If that's the case we will bring down the whole website. In fact at the bottom (of the website) we already put down that it's under construction.'

Mr Lau also said that the company has just started training potential cabin crew from South Korea in its Singapore office in Changi.

They will have to undergo a selection process after that.

The company's vice-president, Mr Robert Han, told The New Paper separately that the website was for 'our advertisement purposes'.

'There are a lot of things in there that have to be touched up,' he said. 'Some of the information is not correct.

'We are a new budget airline company, and we are still in the middle of setting up.'

He said it takes about six months to a year to get the proper licences.

When The New Paper visited its office on the second floor of a warehouse at the Changi South address, it was bare, with some cubicles, and less than a handful of employees around. The workers declined to be interviewed.

The company also placed recruitment ads in The Straits Times last month looking for crew. One of the them, looking for female cabin crew, appeared in the Classifieds section on 29 Apr.

If its website is anything to go by, customers who buy their tickets online will receive a discount of $5 or US$3 per flight.

CUTTING FRILLS

It claims to serve the needs of travellers looking for a reliable low-fare carrier flying to the Asia Pacific region.

'By cutting out unnecessary frills and carefully controlling the cost of doing business, we are able to offer fares that represent great value for money - often at a fraction of the prices offered by other airlines,' it said on the website.

It added: 'With its present growing network, Rock Airway further wishes to demonstrate its position as Asia Pacific's largest independent regional carrier.'



--------------------------------------------------------------------------Company told to correct details on website

THE Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) said Rock Airway is not operating at Changi Airport.

Rock Airway currently has no approval to operate flights to/from Singapore, and it has also not contacted CAAS to obtain the necessary approvals, said a spokesman from the aviation authority.

It also does not have any physical presence at Changi Airport. 'In particular, it does not have any check-in counters at Terminal 1 as it has claimed in the website www.rockairway.com,' said the spokesman.

Copyright 2005 Singapore Press Holdings Ltd. Co. Regn. No. 198402868E. All rights reserved.
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Old 15th Jun 2006, 01:43
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Hi,

Does anyone have any information about the Rock Airways Scam?

I knew the operators when they were scamming Philippines, Hong Kong, China and Vietnam. It's amazing they got away with this again.

I would appreciate any information. thanks!

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