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Old 25th Feb 2006, 08:09
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Hi folks,
On the ineterview u will get lots of information which are not covering the future.
-AV. flying hours: 30h monthly.
-20 days away from Singapore.
-paxing 60-80 h
-no cocession travel,
-free ticket - u have to pay 15% income tax + airport tax,will cost U 800S$!!!
-company is changing profit sharing scheme (will be much less thhan at the beginnig)
more question pls
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Old 25th Feb 2006, 15:59
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Wow- That sure seems contrary to what others have reported.

Is this info you received from the SIA DEC interview? Or somewhere
else?

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Old 26th Feb 2006, 03:31
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Huh?

Funny, doesn't look like any rosters I've heard of or seen...sure you're not in the "Bad Books? Quite an attitude you're sporting there...
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Old 26th Feb 2006, 04:14
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Well...
Been with SIA Cargo about a year now as DEC.
Average flying hours after I finished training are 54 (including months with leave).
Average positioning hours 16. (Except for two trips it's all been in first or buisiness class).
Average days off per month 11 (contract says min 8 though). Lots of quality time on the road e.g golf in LA, skiing in ANC, safaris in JNB etc. Definitely the least stressful job I've ever had...
Of course it would be bad if they capped the bonus since it's a lot of money but no confirmation of that yet.
You won't get rich but all in all a decent company to work for and Singapore is a wonderful city to live in.
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Old 26th Feb 2006, 04:23
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Warden, what are you on?

He's misrepresenting the situation. Could be bad blood, I dunno.

60-80 hours a month positioning is not possible.

That'd be eight or more trips of no less than 10 hours flight time, or four pax flights to Amsterdam, in a month!
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Old 26th Feb 2006, 04:57
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Originally Posted by Warden777
Hi folks,
On the ineterview u will get lots of information which are not covering the future.
-AV. flying hours: 30h monthly.
-20 days away from Singapore.
-paxing 60-80 h
-no cocession travel,
-free ticket - u have to pay 15% income tax + airport tax,will cost U 800S$!!!
-company is changing profit sharing scheme (will be much less thhan at the beginnig)
more question pls

Warden 777, what interview did you go to? I've been at SIA Cargo and have never positioned like you say. My worst month was just at 30 hours and that was the month of Jan 06!
-concession travel is ZED based on ID75 Unlimited plus numerous agreements with other carriers
-I have averaged 14 days off/month
-Company wants to change profit charing scheme, however, it is part of the ALPAS CBA
-You pay tax on your ticket for me to LHR, it's less than S$100!, 15% income tax???? that's a new one.
-My average flight time/month is roughly 55 hours, that is including months with vacation.

All in all, one of the better jobs left out there. Absolutely no stress!


PS. I'd also recommend you check your spelling before posting.

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Old 26th Feb 2006, 19:30
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Phil Word of advice Never Never pick up on other's spelling mistakes unless you are sure you are whiter than white!!

eg What is this profit charing scheme!!!??


Also [B]what so ever is one word[B]

ALPHAS??

TAX Budget 2005 as follows
First $160,000 14%

Next $160.000 17%

So for Salary of $320,000 YA 2007 Total Tax $42,700

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Old 26th Feb 2006, 22:36
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Originally Posted by millerscourt
Phil Word of advice Never Never pick up on other's spelling mistakes unless you are sure you are whiter than white!!
eg What is this profit charing scheme!!!??
Also [B]what so ever is one word[B]
ALPHAS??
TAX Budget 2005 as follows
First $160,000 14%
Next $160.000 17%
So for Salary of $320,000 YA 2007 Total Tax $42,700
Point taken.

With respect to taxes, don't forget there are deductions for children, spouse certain items such as life insurance, physicals, union dues, supplemental insurance. So, the effective tax rate is somewhat lower.
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Old 26th Feb 2006, 23:04
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Hi.
Anybody who know how much your salary is, during the t/r and line-training, at SIA cargo?

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Old 27th Feb 2006, 00:55
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Originally Posted by vector3
Hi.
Anybody who know how much your salary is, during the t/r and line-training, at SIA cargo?

In G/S you receive your salary, housing (if on expat contract) and education (if on expat).

On the line you receive as above plus PPA and per diem.

No hidden costs or % withheld.
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Old 1st Mar 2006, 04:09
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Hi Guys
Reading your mesages I think scheduler dosn't like me very much>i've been here since Jan 2005 and never exceeded 50 hrs a month ,avarage is 30-40 it's true believe me.Positioning is not less than 20 hrs a month .I earned total 210 000 s$ incl bonus for last year.ID tickets?? sometimes you can buy cheaper in the internet as the normal booked seats .I'm quite disappointed but there is like coffin corner ...bond is 140000 s$
brgds
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Old 1st Mar 2006, 14:16
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What're you, and F/O?

No kidding.
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Old 3rd Mar 2006, 00:28
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Phil, et al

Is the window closed for SIAC Apps?
I noticed on the SIAC website that they've taken the DEC job off the careers page.

Anyone?

RDG
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Old 3rd Mar 2006, 01:40
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Originally Posted by Round D. Globe
Phil, et al

Is the window closed for SIAC Apps?
I noticed on the SIAC website that they've taken the DEC job off the careers page.

Anyone?

RDG

Supposedly, hiring is going full steam!

Originally Posted by fishbad
Hi Guys
Reading your mesages I think scheduler dosn't like me very much>i've been here since Jan 2005 and never exceeded 50 hrs a month ,avarage is 30-40 it's true believe me.Positioning is not less than 20 hrs a month .I earned total 210 000 s$ incl bonus for last year.ID tickets?? sometimes you can buy cheaper in the internet as the normal booked seats .I'm quite disappointed but there is like coffin corner ...bond is 140000 s$
brgds

I have to ask, are you a FO? I sure don't have that problem at all! Could you explain the S$140,000 bond, I was current and qualified when I arrived, so I have nothing, but that number isn't one I've heard before.
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Old 9th Mar 2006, 16:52
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Originally Posted by 4PW's
Warden, what are you on?
He's misrepresenting the situation. Could be bad blood, I dunno.
60-80 hours a month positioning is not possible.
That'd be eight or more trips of no less than 10 hours flight time, or four pax flights to Amsterdam, in a month!
Ok U r lucky man, let me present: pax SIN AMS 12H, SIN LAX 23 H, SIN KWI 12H (2 DAYS), ICN SIN 8H, NRT SIN 8 H.No commments!
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Old 9th Mar 2006, 23:45
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Time check... :)

So would you be able to decode your post? If we are to be able to debate, we have to have clear info. I'm maybe a bit foggy on it but I don't get what your times mean...is all that paxing or whatever it's called or did you operate some of those routes?
Many Thanks...
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Old 10th Mar 2006, 10:25
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pax SIN AMS 12H, SIN LAX 23 H, SIN KWI 12H (2 DAYS), ICN SIN 8H, NRT SIN 8 !
I think it is all positioning. 63hrs wow, thats a lot...
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Old 20th Mar 2006, 21:13
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THE SQ CARGO OPERATION IS JUST CRAZY.

WARDEN777 IS RIGHT YOU PAX MORE THAN YOU FLY. I AVERAGE 25-35 HOURS A MONTH.

I HAVE PAX- LAX-SIN/ AND OFTEN SIN-EUROPE(LHR/AMS THEN IMMEDIATELY JUMP ANOTHER CARRIER TO BRU.
PAX IS FIRST CLASS BUT THE HOURS SPENT PAX GETS TO YOU AND BUILDS FRUSTRATION.
NO PAYMENT WHILST PAX!!!!.

SQ PAX FLEET GUYS THEY GET PAID S$25 PHR.

THE ROSTERING IS A DISAPPOINTMENT AND I DO NOT SEE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.

THE MAINLINE SQ PAX OPERATIONS CREW GET PRIORITY OVER THE CARGO CREWS. WE CARGO CREWS GET THE SCRAPS.
THE PAX B744 CREWS FLY AND AVERAGE 85 HOURS.

AS FOR TRAVEL PRIVILEDGES SQ MAKES MONEY ON STAFF TRAVEL. ONE IS BETTER OFF BUYING A TICKET DOWNTOWN IT IS CHEAPER AND CONFIRMED.

NOT RECOMMENDED BUT I HAVE TO RIDE THE WAVE AS I HAVE A S$56000 BOND.

SUCKER!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 21st Mar 2006, 10:56
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Originally Posted by CARGOJOCK
THE SQ CARGO OPERATION IS JUST CRAZY.

WARDEN777 IS RIGHT YOU PAX MORE THAN YOU FLY. I AVERAGE 25-35 HOURS A MONTH.

I HAVE PAX- LAX-SIN/ AND OFTEN SIN-EUROPE(LHR/AMS THEN IMMEDIATELY JUMP ANOTHER CARRIER TO BRU.
PAX IS FIRST CLASS BUT THE HOURS SPENT PAX GETS TO YOU AND BUILDS FRUSTRATION.
NO PAYMENT WHILST PAX!!!!.

SQ PAX FLEET GUYS THEY GET PAID S$25 PHR.

THE ROSTERING IS A DISAPPOINTMENT AND I DO NOT SEE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.

THE MAINLINE SQ PAX OPERATIONS CREW GET PRIORITY OVER THE CARGO CREWS. WE CARGO CREWS GET THE SCRAPS.
THE PAX B744 CREWS FLY AND AVERAGE 85 HOURS.

AS FOR TRAVEL PRIVILEDGES SQ MAKES MONEY ON STAFF TRAVEL. ONE IS BETTER OFF BUYING A TICKET DOWNTOWN IT IS CHEAPER AND CONFIRMED.

NOT RECOMMENDED BUT I HAVE TO RIDE THE WAVE AS I HAVE A S$56000 BOND.

SUCKER!!!!!!!!!!
cool down bro.
we knw wats goin on in SQ
rem our passion is to fly... keep it going really hope things will change for the cargo operations.

for the pax operation we get shit too... its just a matter of perception
yes i get a average of 85hrs a month.

i am a fo for b744 and currenting with type conversion for A380, hope to see u convert to pax crew once your time comes.
relax bro..

great way to fly
singapore airlines
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Old 21st Mar 2006, 22:17
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hi AirBus380

passion/love is what got me twice into trouble.

the first with my marraige and second to fly the B744.

it is a great way to fly i do agree but i only ask the rosterering to sort itself out. with pax you are requiring more crew than actually needed. a penny wise pound foolish.

SIA is a profitable outfit hats off to that so it does do things right. but let me say that things will change in the next few years and that will be the true mother of all test.

the true profit centres in SIA is the engineering and cargo and last but not least ground handling.

yes hard but true the pax operation just about makes it.
cargo on the otherhand is proving it's weight in gold.

enjoy the A380

Happy Landings!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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