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Chambudzi, I can't agree with you more. In the time I have been with Cargo, I have never experienced any "second class" treatment from any of the mainline pilots, instructors or anyone.
There has been a concerted effort to improve the productivity of the Cargo COPs. However, the real problem or block is within flilght admin. There is an unwillingness to change things. There was a recent TCC about Cargo being separated ASAP, how we were going to fly to the AOC limits. Not so fast, it costs money to change the rostering system and no one wants to spend the money or at least have it come out of their budget.
You're also correct in your statement about mainline pilots flying the schedule's they're assigned. However, I will admit, I have had some nice SYD/MEL layovers taken away for a mainline pilot to fly. I did get them reinstated after raising the issue with the DCP.
For me, Cargo is a great deal. I have enough time on the aircraft, I don't want to fly 80 hours/month. As it is, I might fly 50 and position 15-20 hours, I'm off 12+ days/month. Life is good (for me).
Granted Cargo isn't for everyone, and neither is mainline. It's really all what you make of it.
There has been a concerted effort to improve the productivity of the Cargo COPs. However, the real problem or block is within flilght admin. There is an unwillingness to change things. There was a recent TCC about Cargo being separated ASAP, how we were going to fly to the AOC limits. Not so fast, it costs money to change the rostering system and no one wants to spend the money or at least have it come out of their budget.
You're also correct in your statement about mainline pilots flying the schedule's they're assigned. However, I will admit, I have had some nice SYD/MEL layovers taken away for a mainline pilot to fly. I did get them reinstated after raising the issue with the DCP.
For me, Cargo is a great deal. I have enough time on the aircraft, I don't want to fly 80 hours/month. As it is, I might fly 50 and position 15-20 hours, I'm off 12+ days/month. Life is good (for me).
Granted Cargo isn't for everyone, and neither is mainline. It's really all what you make of it.
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Ditto Phil Squares comments.
When I read some of CJs postings I really wonder whether we are working for the same airline.
My sim and line training was conducted in a very professional and gentlemanly fashion and I have experienced nothing but courtesy and kindness from all of the SIA (Mainline and Cargo) personnel that I have had dealings with.
When I read some of CJs postings I really wonder whether we are working for the same airline.
My sim and line training was conducted in a very professional and gentlemanly fashion and I have experienced nothing but courtesy and kindness from all of the SIA (Mainline and Cargo) personnel that I have had dealings with.
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hmm...
i cannot understand why anyone would be SO Unhappy when
1. You are flying with one of the biggest and most profitable airline.
2. You are flying in one of the most modern aircrafts
3. You are flying in one of the newest aircrafts around
4. You are paid to do what you supposedly love to do - ie. flying
5. You are paid well above many of the other pilots flying in LCCs
6. You are paid more than the local lads with your allowances.
7. Your pay is in the top 10 percentile in Singapore
7. You are staying in one of the most modern and safest cities in the world.
and many many more.
i cannot understand why anyone would be SO Unhappy when
1. You are flying with one of the biggest and most profitable airline.
2. You are flying in one of the most modern aircrafts
3. You are flying in one of the newest aircrafts around
4. You are paid to do what you supposedly love to do - ie. flying
5. You are paid well above many of the other pilots flying in LCCs
6. You are paid more than the local lads with your allowances.
7. Your pay is in the top 10 percentile in Singapore
7. You are staying in one of the most modern and safest cities in the world.
and many many more.
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Originally Posted by millerscourt
blade747 Line Training about 8 Sectors which was what I did but I had been to most of the places in the SQ network before.
I will not get involved in the rant elsewhere on this thread.
I will not get involved in the rant elsewhere on this thread.
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Hello guys....just wondering...I attended the interview in mid-may. I still have not heard anything from SIAC yet. Is this normal? I am getting a bit jumpy......
The government/CAAS check....does it really take that long?
(Canīt wait to fly with CJ......IF I get in! )
The government/CAAS check....does it really take that long?
(Canīt wait to fly with CJ......IF I get in! )
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At the interview they suggested joining on expat contract then switching to local contract; this can be done at any time with just a day's notice. Then the clock starts ticking on your five years minimum to command.
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SQ CARGO COMMAND- LOCAL TERMS
Originally Posted by artax
At the interview they suggested joining on expat contract then switching to local contract; this can be done at any time with just a day's notice. Then the clock starts ticking on your five years minimum to command.
The short notice to change maybe true, as for your command possibility as an expat FO on local terms , lets say your are a good dreamer.
there have been a few that have got there command in such a case but too far and few between.
GET MY DRIFT!
GOOD LUCK
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I dream not, I'm just repeating what I was told at the interview. It does seem clear enough that five years is the absolute theoretical minimum, and it could be far longer in reality.
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WYSiWYG
Originally Posted by artax
I dream not, I'm just repeating what I was told at the interview. It does seem clear enough that five years is the absolute theoretical minimum, and it could be far longer in reality.
Talk is cheap, if you get it on your contract in black and white that is something with a time frame stipulated then you are in business.
Why join on expat terms join in straight on local terms.Local terms SQ CARGO saves on accomodation allowance/kids schooling etc.
There are a few FO that have been in your position and joined in and changed over to local terms. and you know what.....
They still are FO and command what is that?
SUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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artax.......have you heard anything?
Cargojock....wow...they must really have promised you something, that they couldnīt keep! At the interview....they were very open and straight forward about the paxing/pay/roster/upgrade.....I did not get the feeling that they were hiding something.......and I am a REAL suspiscious fellow!
Ofcourse IT is much(!!!) more difficult for a non-local to upgrade...everybody knows that! That is just the way it is....I guess
Anyway...its good to hear your opinion also.......I can guarantee you that you could be worse off(degraded/downgraded/massive pay-cut/pension-cut/crap-roster/funny(not haha) colleagues)
Cargojock....wow...they must really have promised you something, that they couldnīt keep! At the interview....they were very open and straight forward about the paxing/pay/roster/upgrade.....I did not get the feeling that they were hiding something.......and I am a REAL suspiscious fellow!
Ofcourse IT is much(!!!) more difficult for a non-local to upgrade...everybody knows that! That is just the way it is....I guess
Anyway...its good to hear your opinion also.......I can guarantee you that you could be worse off(degraded/downgraded/massive pay-cut/pension-cut/crap-roster/funny(not haha) colleagues)
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Hi guys,
I received notice in May that an interview date for SQ Cargo was available in July which I readily accepted. I received an email yesterday from HR that the company was ceasing further interviews immediately and indefinitely. My interview was scheduled around the last week in July. Anyone have any info. on what's happening or was it just my email penmanship?
hang time
I received notice in May that an interview date for SQ Cargo was available in July which I readily accepted. I received an email yesterday from HR that the company was ceasing further interviews immediately and indefinitely. My interview was scheduled around the last week in July. Anyone have any info. on what's happening or was it just my email penmanship?
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Sorry to hear that Hang Time, but the problem on SIA Cargo may be the training, that must be full.
I was on Singapore last May, doing the interview and got myself a Transition course for next November.
A friend of mine that went on the end of June was informed that if successfull he will get a Transition course on April, 07.
They have also sent 2 or 3 B744 to Great Wall, so less aircraft, less jobs.
SF
I was on Singapore last May, doing the interview and got myself a Transition course for next November.
A friend of mine that went on the end of June was informed that if successfull he will get a Transition course on April, 07.
They have also sent 2 or 3 B744 to Great Wall, so less aircraft, less jobs.
SF
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I think you will find that people like Cargo Jock were not informed that they would be doing so much positioning and little flying. And they were told they would get $7000 per month on top of the Basic. This has now been downgraded to $5500. Only now are they due to the discontented early arrivals telling people like you the real story as word has got around.
I think you will find that people like Cargo Jock were not informed that they would be doing so much positioning and little flying. And they were told they would get $7000 per month on top of the Basic. This has now been downgraded to $5500. Only now are they due to the discontented early arrivals telling people like you the real story as word has got around.
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Did I read HangTime right?
Did SIA Cargo stop interviewing? Anyone have any info?
Is this all part of the log jam created by the delay's of the 380's on the mainline side?
RDG
Did SIA Cargo stop interviewing? Anyone have any info?
Is this all part of the log jam created by the delay's of the 380's on the mainline side?
RDG
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Originally Posted by Round D. Globe
Did I read HangTime right?
Did SIA Cargo stop interviewing? Anyone have any info?
Is this all part of the log jam created by the delay's of the 380's on the mainline side?
RDG
Did SIA Cargo stop interviewing? Anyone have any info?
Is this all part of the log jam created by the delay's of the 380's on the mainline side?
RDG
To what i understand (hear say), some of great walls' pilots will be taking up sim slots in STC and sale of 747s to dragonair is tagged with STC's sim hours too, thus the big jam coming up soon. As is, they are rather chocked up to their available capacity. It will be interesting.
can anyone confirm this?
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Oh,Oh,Oooh...I sure hope this ain't true, guys....or is it??! 
I passed my interviews in May, and was made to understand I should expect start of training around Aug/Sept. Last message from them a coupla weeks ago was:...."all coming along well", meaning the clearance processes, etc. So is this now likely to be put back another coupla months or so?? Anyone with some insider info??
Cheers!
I passed my interviews in May, and was made to understand I should expect start of training around Aug/Sept. Last message from them a coupla weeks ago was:...."all coming along well", meaning the clearance processes, etc. So is this now likely to be put back another coupla months or so?? Anyone with some insider info??
Cheers!
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Class dates at SIA Cargo
Just wanted any who have expectations on the class date, in late 2006, that it is unlikely to happen. I interviewed early June and was told that if successful I could expect a class date in November 2006.
I requested an update on July 12th, from SIA Cargo via email, and was told in the response to expect a class date in April 2007 "IF" I am successful in the paperwork process.
Not good news but at least some news and no real explaination for cause.
I requested an update on July 12th, from SIA Cargo via email, and was told in the response to expect a class date in April 2007 "IF" I am successful in the paperwork process.
Not good news but at least some news and no real explaination for cause.