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ninetyeighter;
you are cool as a cucumber man
i like your style
finally the burden is gone
continue reading raissarobles.com
1. airline are like (sexy) toys for the big boys PAL President Jaime Bautista
2. why does billionaire lucio tan have such a troubled airline?
read the comments and you will notice were affected, then you realize that now their is burden is coming out
truth has set everybody free
nona;
your description of ninetyeighter as "patethic loser" is uncalled for.
even identical twins have different personalities,
you let go of your burden sooner and ninetyeighter later, but still burden is gone
the twenty fivers are lucky we did it in 98. they reviewed our history.
in their time they were very diligent, searching all available avenues, asking all related questions about expat life, pros and cons ,made their decisions with their families alone, as they don't have any union to turn to
no recriminations , no finger pointing...all within the family.
during our time, we thougth we were high, mighty and powerful.
very arrogant, foolish, intransingent and naive.
we never knew what realpolitik meant.
we disregarded the pleadings and warnings of jong, whose brother is rubbing elbows with the high and mighty in the palace, that the government will never intervine.
centennial celebration..will never happen.
we despised dendet , removing him as our spokesman , to the point of ostracising him only to find out later that he is telling the truth.
we laughed at nilo r when he appealed to us not to go on strike and to
return to work once the order was given.
we blindly followed our president and our lawyers, we never knew what were their plans and designs.
we believed those pretenders, rah rah boys, crying , goading us , only to find later that they were the first to cross the picket line.
we believed the strike committee chairman taking our passports for safekeeping, we never knew he was already hired by another airline.
in basketball lingo we were only backyard leaguers, our opponents were all nba all star professionals.
we were clobbered and blinsided not only by our opponents but also by the leaders of the institution we were fighting for.
so much for unionism.
truly as the saying goes
SILENT WATER RUNS DEEP
to the twentyfivers, go on , don't be afraid of your decision
GOOD LUCK and GOD BLESS
you are cool as a cucumber man
i like your style
finally the burden is gone
continue reading raissarobles.com
1. airline are like (sexy) toys for the big boys PAL President Jaime Bautista
2. why does billionaire lucio tan have such a troubled airline?
read the comments and you will notice were affected, then you realize that now their is burden is coming out
truth has set everybody free
nona;
your description of ninetyeighter as "patethic loser" is uncalled for.
even identical twins have different personalities,
you let go of your burden sooner and ninetyeighter later, but still burden is gone
the twenty fivers are lucky we did it in 98. they reviewed our history.
in their time they were very diligent, searching all available avenues, asking all related questions about expat life, pros and cons ,made their decisions with their families alone, as they don't have any union to turn to
no recriminations , no finger pointing...all within the family.
during our time, we thougth we were high, mighty and powerful.
very arrogant, foolish, intransingent and naive.
we never knew what realpolitik meant.
we disregarded the pleadings and warnings of jong, whose brother is rubbing elbows with the high and mighty in the palace, that the government will never intervine.
centennial celebration..will never happen.
we despised dendet , removing him as our spokesman , to the point of ostracising him only to find out later that he is telling the truth.
we laughed at nilo r when he appealed to us not to go on strike and to
return to work once the order was given.
we blindly followed our president and our lawyers, we never knew what were their plans and designs.
we believed those pretenders, rah rah boys, crying , goading us , only to find later that they were the first to cross the picket line.
we believed the strike committee chairman taking our passports for safekeeping, we never knew he was already hired by another airline.
in basketball lingo we were only backyard leaguers, our opponents were all nba all star professionals.
we were clobbered and blinsided not only by our opponents but also by the leaders of the institution we were fighting for.
so much for unionism.
truly as the saying goes
SILENT WATER RUNS DEEP
to the twentyfivers, go on , don't be afraid of your decision
GOOD LUCK and GOD BLESS
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my apologies to ninetyeighter.
I can't blame anyone but my self in what happened in 98, period.
if i suffered, then it's my fault. i dont blame those who cross the line. they have minds and principles of their own that was different from mine and I respect that. for those who still blames other pilots for the 98 outcome, may you continue to blame them til the end of time.
I can't blame anyone but my self in what happened in 98, period.
if i suffered, then it's my fault. i dont blame those who cross the line. they have minds and principles of their own that was different from mine and I respect that. for those who still blames other pilots for the 98 outcome, may you continue to blame them til the end of time.
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better pay and work environment? cebupac or PAL?
Im sorry it maybe a bit OT, just out of curiosity which has better pay? A capt/fo for A320 at PAL or Cebupac?
Also, if you were still young and would be starting flight training this year, would you do it at PAL Av? Or, if budget permits may do it say aviation schools in FL like flightsafety? Which would have a better chance of getting in the airline industry here in the Phil coming off from a fresh CPL/IR/ME?
Also, if you were still young and would be starting flight training this year, would you do it at PAL Av? Or, if budget permits may do it say aviation schools in FL like flightsafety? Which would have a better chance of getting in the airline industry here in the Phil coming off from a fresh CPL/IR/ME?
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Lucio Tan is part of our corrupt ecosystem, Romulo Neri told whistle blower Jun Lozada | raissarobles.com
What’s happening now with Philippine Airlines (PAL) is not mere labor trouble. It is actually part of a political power struggle between the Aquino presidency and an entrenched kingmaker, whom the former economic planning agency chief once named as a key player in the Philippines’ corrupt ecosystem.
Lucio Tan, Romulo Neri and Jun Lozada
The nation’s other power players are closely watching who will win. And Filipinos who voted overwhelmingly to stamp out corruption and level the playing field should be closely watching too.
Romulo Neri’s web of corruption theory
The embattled Romulo Neri unwittingly predicted something like this could happen during a secret dinner meeting with whistle blower Rodolfo “Jun” Lozada, Senator Panfilo Lacson, Senator Jamby Madrigal and Angelito Banayo (now the National Food Authority chairman) on December 7, 2007.
Neri was at that time the director-general of the National Economic Development Authority (NEDA).
Details of that secret meeting were later bared by Jun Lozada in his February 18, 2008 testimony before a Senate probe on the allegedly anomalous telecoms broadband deal between the Arroyo government and ZTE Corporation of China.
Cringing, cowering and weeping during the probe that was telecast nationwide, Jun Lozada said that during that meeting, his friend Romulo Neri had called their boss, President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, “evil” several times because she was the center of a corrupt political ecosystem that was controlled by a handful of the nation’s oligarchs who influenced and benefited from corruption.
Jun Lozada said Romulo Neri specifically named Philippine Airlines (PAL) owner Lucio Tan as one of those oligarchs in control of the corrupt ecosystem. Romulo Neri even showed a diagram of his web-of-corruption political theory. Lucio Tan was designated in that drawing by the letters “LT”. See the diagram below. (The three other “oligarchs” named were Enrique Razon, chairman and president of International Container Terminal Services, Inc.; a “Tommy” Alcantara and one of the “Aboitizes” (which one, Romulo Neri did not say).
Romulo Neri prepared this diagram to explain his web of corruption theory. This was submitted to the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee probe on the NBN-ZTE telecoms deal
On the very day Jun Lozada testified, Romulo Neri suddenly had amnesia . He told reporters he was unsure whether he had called Gloria Arroyo “evil” several times:
I know Jun is very sincere with me and cares for me but I really cannot recall that statement. I don’t remember. I cannot up to now.
However, the former Asian Institute of Management professor could remember in detail the rest of his dinner lecture.
That’s very little thing to do with ZTE. That meeting was more on the discussing the political economy. I gave my usual lecture on political economy and to shorten it I just put one brief framework and I think we all agreed that this is the nature of the Philippine state and the oligarchic state, the players concerned.
We had to map the whole players in the political system and of course everybody has a role to play in the whole system. And my conclusion is that in this whole system, we are all victims of the whole oligarchic structure of the Philippine State.
To watch the video of one of Romulo Neri’s ambush interviews at that time, click on this.
Romulo Neri did not deny naming Lucio Tan, Razon, Alcantara and Aboitiz as key players in that corrupt eco system.
Now I myself wonder why Romulo Neri named Lucio Tan.
In an earlier entry I wrote entitled Why does world billionaire Lucio Tan have such a troubled airline? , I provided a timeline of how Lucio Tan broke off the profitable units of PAL to make completely different companies that are now quite profitable to this day, while PAL continues to lose heavily.
My Facebook friend Reyn Barnido reacted to my timeline by pointing out it was incomplete. He said,
So what happened between 2000 and 2010? There is a a full decade gap in the timeline.
He’s right. This decade covers Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo’s administration. And so I started digging and that was how I rediscovered Romulo Neri and Jun Lozada.
And then I dug some more and found reports saying President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo dined with tobacco and beer magnate Lucio Tan and shortly afterward, a planned hike on cigarette and beer taxes was reduced, while there was a higher increase in our Value Added Tax (VAT). The justifying argument used then was that a steep rise in tobacco and liquor taxes would harm sales, which would eventually lead to lower tax collection.
In this instance, rather than tax cigarettes and beer owned by Lucio Tan, everyone bore the brunt of higher VAT on basic necessities such as food, medicine, water, electricity.
Romulo Neri proposed solution for sweeping away web of corruption
Before he joined the executive department, Romulo Neri was one of my favorite sources. He headed the Congressional Planning and Budget Office (CPBO). He was always frank in his views and I could always expect choice quotes from him on how the national budget was skewed toward military and anti-insurgency spending at the expense of education and social services.
I was therefore not surprised that he said all that during his “secret” dinner with Jun Lozada and the senators.
He’s very proud of his web-of-corruption theory. On Valentine’s Day, four days before Jun Lozada testified, Romulo Neri told reporters in an ambush interview that “the truth is deeper than what you think.” He said the nation’s problems were quite deep and could not be solved by people power rallies alone because the Philippines was an oligarchic state where in reality, a handful of families and personalities dictated government action.
Today, Romulo Neri is in serious trouble, facing a corruption case that could land him in jail. The charge stemmed from his having told Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo that then Commission on Elections chairman Benjamin Abalos had offered him a hefty bribe – “Sec, my 200 ka dito” – which he interpreted as 200 million pesos.
Neri said in his own testimony before the Senate that Arroyo told him to ignore Abalos’ offer but still go through with the recommendation process for the ZTE project.
The bribe was allegedly for his facilitating NEDA’s approval of ZTE Corporation’s $329-million national broadband network (NBN) contract with the government.
Romulo Neri may be the first Filipino academic to put forth a theory on political economy and become the very example of how this theory actually works.
For me, he made two interesting statements that are very relevant today.
First, Romulo Neri said that replacing Gloria Arroyo as President would not correct the situation since the ecosystem would remain.
Second, he said reforms in the political economy could only be brought about by the President with the help of all sectors of society.
What do you think?
What’s happening now with Philippine Airlines (PAL) is not mere labor trouble. It is actually part of a political power struggle between the Aquino presidency and an entrenched kingmaker, whom the former economic planning agency chief once named as a key player in the Philippines’ corrupt ecosystem.
Lucio Tan, Romulo Neri and Jun Lozada
The nation’s other power players are closely watching who will win. And Filipinos who voted overwhelmingly to stamp out corruption and level the playing field should be closely watching too.
Romulo Neri’s web of corruption theory
The embattled Romulo Neri unwittingly predicted something like this could happen during a secret dinner meeting with whistle blower Rodolfo “Jun” Lozada, Senator Panfilo Lacson, Senator Jamby Madrigal and Angelito Banayo (now the National Food Authority chairman) on December 7, 2007.
Neri was at that time the director-general of the National Economic Development Authority (NEDA).
Details of that secret meeting were later bared by Jun Lozada in his February 18, 2008 testimony before a Senate probe on the allegedly anomalous telecoms broadband deal between the Arroyo government and ZTE Corporation of China.
Cringing, cowering and weeping during the probe that was telecast nationwide, Jun Lozada said that during that meeting, his friend Romulo Neri had called their boss, President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, “evil” several times because she was the center of a corrupt political ecosystem that was controlled by a handful of the nation’s oligarchs who influenced and benefited from corruption.
Jun Lozada said Romulo Neri specifically named Philippine Airlines (PAL) owner Lucio Tan as one of those oligarchs in control of the corrupt ecosystem. Romulo Neri even showed a diagram of his web-of-corruption political theory. Lucio Tan was designated in that drawing by the letters “LT”. See the diagram below. (The three other “oligarchs” named were Enrique Razon, chairman and president of International Container Terminal Services, Inc.; a “Tommy” Alcantara and one of the “Aboitizes” (which one, Romulo Neri did not say).
Romulo Neri prepared this diagram to explain his web of corruption theory. This was submitted to the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee probe on the NBN-ZTE telecoms deal
On the very day Jun Lozada testified, Romulo Neri suddenly had amnesia . He told reporters he was unsure whether he had called Gloria Arroyo “evil” several times:
I know Jun is very sincere with me and cares for me but I really cannot recall that statement. I don’t remember. I cannot up to now.
However, the former Asian Institute of Management professor could remember in detail the rest of his dinner lecture.
That’s very little thing to do with ZTE. That meeting was more on the discussing the political economy. I gave my usual lecture on political economy and to shorten it I just put one brief framework and I think we all agreed that this is the nature of the Philippine state and the oligarchic state, the players concerned.
We had to map the whole players in the political system and of course everybody has a role to play in the whole system. And my conclusion is that in this whole system, we are all victims of the whole oligarchic structure of the Philippine State.
To watch the video of one of Romulo Neri’s ambush interviews at that time, click on this.
Romulo Neri did not deny naming Lucio Tan, Razon, Alcantara and Aboitiz as key players in that corrupt eco system.
Now I myself wonder why Romulo Neri named Lucio Tan.
In an earlier entry I wrote entitled Why does world billionaire Lucio Tan have such a troubled airline? , I provided a timeline of how Lucio Tan broke off the profitable units of PAL to make completely different companies that are now quite profitable to this day, while PAL continues to lose heavily.
My Facebook friend Reyn Barnido reacted to my timeline by pointing out it was incomplete. He said,
So what happened between 2000 and 2010? There is a a full decade gap in the timeline.
He’s right. This decade covers Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo’s administration. And so I started digging and that was how I rediscovered Romulo Neri and Jun Lozada.
And then I dug some more and found reports saying President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo dined with tobacco and beer magnate Lucio Tan and shortly afterward, a planned hike on cigarette and beer taxes was reduced, while there was a higher increase in our Value Added Tax (VAT). The justifying argument used then was that a steep rise in tobacco and liquor taxes would harm sales, which would eventually lead to lower tax collection.
In this instance, rather than tax cigarettes and beer owned by Lucio Tan, everyone bore the brunt of higher VAT on basic necessities such as food, medicine, water, electricity.
Romulo Neri proposed solution for sweeping away web of corruption
Before he joined the executive department, Romulo Neri was one of my favorite sources. He headed the Congressional Planning and Budget Office (CPBO). He was always frank in his views and I could always expect choice quotes from him on how the national budget was skewed toward military and anti-insurgency spending at the expense of education and social services.
I was therefore not surprised that he said all that during his “secret” dinner with Jun Lozada and the senators.
He’s very proud of his web-of-corruption theory. On Valentine’s Day, four days before Jun Lozada testified, Romulo Neri told reporters in an ambush interview that “the truth is deeper than what you think.” He said the nation’s problems were quite deep and could not be solved by people power rallies alone because the Philippines was an oligarchic state where in reality, a handful of families and personalities dictated government action.
Today, Romulo Neri is in serious trouble, facing a corruption case that could land him in jail. The charge stemmed from his having told Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo that then Commission on Elections chairman Benjamin Abalos had offered him a hefty bribe – “Sec, my 200 ka dito” – which he interpreted as 200 million pesos.
Neri said in his own testimony before the Senate that Arroyo told him to ignore Abalos’ offer but still go through with the recommendation process for the ZTE project.
The bribe was allegedly for his facilitating NEDA’s approval of ZTE Corporation’s $329-million national broadband network (NBN) contract with the government.
Romulo Neri may be the first Filipino academic to put forth a theory on political economy and become the very example of how this theory actually works.
For me, he made two interesting statements that are very relevant today.
First, Romulo Neri said that replacing Gloria Arroyo as President would not correct the situation since the ecosystem would remain.
Second, he said reforms in the political economy could only be brought about by the President with the help of all sectors of society.
What do you think?
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Hi Pinoy´s
I have a question
Many of you demand and compare pilot salary with other country's, who of your fellow countrymen will afford to fly with your planes ?
Should all other professions also demand "international" salary standards?
Do you also expect to pay 300pesos for a beer in the bar like i do in Sweden?
I just wounder
I have a question
Many of you demand and compare pilot salary with other country's, who of your fellow countrymen will afford to fly with your planes ?
Should all other professions also demand "international" salary standards?
Do you also expect to pay 300pesos for a beer in the bar like i do in Sweden?
I just wounder
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hard truth
PAL is losing money (surprise! surprise!). I have been constantly baffled by all talk from the unions that somehow PAL is able to do some magic with their numbers such that the airline actually has more money to spend. it does not.
Only way out, even if a white knight comes in to buy PAL and continue the company as a going concern, is further cost reductions, where naturally labor will bear the most pain. thus the inevitable ending would be a stalemate.
such a stalemate will then make any potential new investor-creditor hold on to their money. when that happens PAL will have no recourse (say after a couple of labor strikes again) but to close shop, sending all leased aircraft back to lessors and creditors, drying up all revenue.
By closing shop, PAL may then be re-sold to somebody later as there will still be some assets, most specially the routes and the certificates. it will likely emerge as a way smaller operation.
And it's not just with PAL. Look around (Japan Airlines under rehab for 6 months now with no end in sight, Mexicana declaring bankruptcy last week). It's a different ballgame now and PAL isn't likely to survive in it's current shape. hard truth, ladies and gents. brace yourselves.
Only way out, even if a white knight comes in to buy PAL and continue the company as a going concern, is further cost reductions, where naturally labor will bear the most pain. thus the inevitable ending would be a stalemate.
such a stalemate will then make any potential new investor-creditor hold on to their money. when that happens PAL will have no recourse (say after a couple of labor strikes again) but to close shop, sending all leased aircraft back to lessors and creditors, drying up all revenue.
By closing shop, PAL may then be re-sold to somebody later as there will still be some assets, most specially the routes and the certificates. it will likely emerge as a way smaller operation.
And it's not just with PAL. Look around (Japan Airlines under rehab for 6 months now with no end in sight, Mexicana declaring bankruptcy last week). It's a different ballgame now and PAL isn't likely to survive in it's current shape. hard truth, ladies and gents. brace yourselves.
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Aptly Put
to quote Wamba wamba:
"... when his bastards scramble for the scraps"
Not only his numerous blood offspring but also his numerous narcissistic proteges!
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Spot On Wamba wamba!
Webs of lies and deception have been the foundation of tan, from the time he acquired PAL from the government using tony boy cojuangco as his dummy. After doing so, he and his cohorts started the systematic dismantling of PAL and his personal acquisition of profit centers like Catering (Macroasia) and Aircraft Maintainance Division AMD (Luthansa Technik). In the process of doing this, he took away the employees of these divisions from PAL, thus removing them also from PALEA. By doing so he rendered PALEA like a eunuch of ancestors in ancient China. By manipulation and the "purchase" of numerous talents in the government and the judiciary, he destroyed ALPAP. Thank GOD, FASAP is still there, but just barely.
To any thinking individual, WHY, with all his resources, he always says "LUGI" and always blames the often-harassed employees. He must really believe Indios like me are eternally stupid and clueless. He and his cohorts must truly be reveling in their adherence to his ancestor's "The Art of War", as their basis for doing anything in the Philippines.
The facts are all around us. Recorded events and history are there in front of us, to find out the real score.
Open our eyes. Find your voice.
Remember, former president Joseph Estrada revealed some time ago that he regrets putting Davide in the Supreme Court. He did it only on the request of lucio tan, one of his main benefactors at that time. You don't have to be a scholar nor a rocket scientist to realize why the government's billion peso tax case against tan was eventually thrown out by the Supreme Court. And this is just one of the many cases that involve tan and his companies.
Take note that even his enstranged brother Mariano Tanenglian wanted come forward in the PCGG regarding him. The tentacles were there, and nothing happened.
The sad part is, there is a multitude of people who are either naive or plainly oblivious, to the daily sham and chicanery, that tan and cohorts foist upon them and the nation.
Webs of lies and deception have been the foundation of tan, from the time he acquired PAL from the government using tony boy cojuangco as his dummy. After doing so, he and his cohorts started the systematic dismantling of PAL and his personal acquisition of profit centers like Catering (Macroasia) and Aircraft Maintainance Division AMD (Luthansa Technik). In the process of doing this, he took away the employees of these divisions from PAL, thus removing them also from PALEA. By doing so he rendered PALEA like a eunuch of ancestors in ancient China. By manipulation and the "purchase" of numerous talents in the government and the judiciary, he destroyed ALPAP. Thank GOD, FASAP is still there, but just barely.
To any thinking individual, WHY, with all his resources, he always says "LUGI" and always blames the often-harassed employees. He must really believe Indios like me are eternally stupid and clueless. He and his cohorts must truly be reveling in their adherence to his ancestor's "The Art of War", as their basis for doing anything in the Philippines.
The facts are all around us. Recorded events and history are there in front of us, to find out the real score.
Open our eyes. Find your voice.
Remember, former president Joseph Estrada revealed some time ago that he regrets putting Davide in the Supreme Court. He did it only on the request of lucio tan, one of his main benefactors at that time. You don't have to be a scholar nor a rocket scientist to realize why the government's billion peso tax case against tan was eventually thrown out by the Supreme Court. And this is just one of the many cases that involve tan and his companies.
Take note that even his enstranged brother Mariano Tanenglian wanted come forward in the PCGG regarding him. The tentacles were there, and nothing happened.
The sad part is, there is a multitude of people who are either naive or plainly oblivious, to the daily sham and chicanery, that tan and cohorts foist upon them and the nation.
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wamba,
don't get me wrong, i sympathize with everybody in PAL and am not enjoying the sight of this great company going down. i am also shocked at the behavior of management as you rightly pointed out with the way they portrayed the pilots as the greedy ones.
i'm afraid though that PAL's woes are not merely issues with people at the top, but more crucially, structural. the company itself is very similar to some legacy, formerly state-run airlines that have failed (such as JAL and Mexicana), namely, multiple fleets, uneven customer service standard, confused pricing and marketing strategy (they don't seem clear whether they want to compete with the LCCs or the Legacies), and most especially, key decisions take a really loooooooong time to make. throw in CAAP category 2 and you've REALLY got a problem.
it's also not a matter of filling up the plane, it's a matter of making sure you keep your cost competitive so that even if the plane is NOT full, you make a decent profit.
don't get me wrong, i sympathize with everybody in PAL and am not enjoying the sight of this great company going down. i am also shocked at the behavior of management as you rightly pointed out with the way they portrayed the pilots as the greedy ones.
i'm afraid though that PAL's woes are not merely issues with people at the top, but more crucially, structural. the company itself is very similar to some legacy, formerly state-run airlines that have failed (such as JAL and Mexicana), namely, multiple fleets, uneven customer service standard, confused pricing and marketing strategy (they don't seem clear whether they want to compete with the LCCs or the Legacies), and most especially, key decisions take a really loooooooong time to make. throw in CAAP category 2 and you've REALLY got a problem.
it's also not a matter of filling up the plane, it's a matter of making sure you keep your cost competitive so that even if the plane is NOT full, you make a decent profit.
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What now?
Points taken. But what now?
You need to save some of your limbs and run for your lives than be eaten alive by the "system". Save your lives first and tell your tale later.
To the 26 Commandos (pilots), my salute!!! That was a swift and successful start. Carry on and "stay alive and kicking". Goodluck & Godbless!
You need to save some of your limbs and run for your lives than be eaten alive by the "system". Save your lives first and tell your tale later.
To the 26 Commandos (pilots), my salute!!! That was a swift and successful start. Carry on and "stay alive and kicking". Goodluck & Godbless!
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@ nona
the new breed of pilots has just shown us how to fight citi hall, not the way we did. this kids, before they faught, they have weapons and used their minds. look who is winning.
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Any chance for non-PAL av guys to land a job in the airlines now that PAL has lost some pilots (I'm pertaining to those who undergone PPL+CPL+IR+ME route)? Or is PAL only hiring those who graduated from their school?
Aren't the MPL guys exclusively for CebPac? Supposedly CebPac would only train enough MPLs for their roster, right? Now where would AirPhil get their pilots to fly their 320s?
Aren't the MPL guys exclusively for CebPac? Supposedly CebPac would only train enough MPLs for their roster, right? Now where would AirPhil get their pilots to fly their 320s?
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not all MPL guys are Cebu Pac sponsored. Those who paid for their own training are the most likely candidates for the AirPhil positions. Accordingly, PAL is only getting them temporarily perhaps to remedy the company's immediate need for 320 pilots.
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it's also not a matter of filling up the plane, it's a matter of making sure you keep your cost competitive so that even if the plane is NOT full, you make a decent profit.
PAL employees = 8000
CEBPAC = 2500
ticket fare are almost the same. can't you guys see the profit margin declining?
management has its problems, yeah! but any other business out there has them too! its about communicating and solving things together.
PAL business model is outdated already, it ain't lean enough to compete with the LCCs out there.
Most of our friends are getting carried away with their hatred with the management, may I ask them to cool down and think of things first. What happens to everyone, the rank and file if PAL closes down???? Certainly the FD crew aren't afraid, it gives you guys reason to move to that diff airline! but everyone else???
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management has its problems, yeah! but any other business out there has them too! its about communicating and solving things together.
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Pal Plans To Hire Foreign Pilots
PAL PLANS TO HIRE FOREIGN PILOTS
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MANILA, Philippines – Philippine Airlines (PAL) plans to hire foreign pilots to meet a shortage in the flag carrier caused by the sudden exodus of some of its pilots.
PAL President Jaime Bautista said Saturday they are looking at various solutions following the move of 26 pilots to suddenly leave the company to join foreign airlines.
“Isa yan sa mga option. Merong lumalapit sa amin,” he said. “May mga Germans na gustong magkaroon pa ng pagkakataon na lumipad sa Pilipinas.”
He added that the flag carrier will enlist foreign pilots’ services only if they accept PAL’s wage levels, which are lower compared to other airline companies.
He said PAL is currently training local pilots who will replace those who suddenly resigned without giving the required 180-day notice.
A total of 38 flights were cancelled between July 29 to August 3 after the 26 out of PAL's 473 pilots left without notice.
Bautista said PAL’s operations have returned to normal, but these could be hampered again when the peak season for international travel enters in December.
However, a leader of the Airline Pilots' Association of the Philippines (ALPAP) as well as PAL's ground crew are opposing PAL’s plan to hire foreigners.
Capt. Amado Soliman, an associate member of ALPAP, said the plan is unrealistic. “Hindi maaari yan. I don't think a foreign pilot will be in his right mind to accept the conditions of PAL,” he said.
The PAL Employees Association (PALEA) also criticized the plan.
“Suntok sa buwan ang pinaplano ng PAL,” said PALEA President Gerardo Rivera.
PAL management, meanwhile, said it is ready to act if PALEA members and cabin crew belonging to the Flight Attendants and Stewards Association of the Philippines (FASAP) decide to launch a strike.
PALEA has lashed out at the airline’s decision to outsource the operations of some of its departments such as catering, call center service, as well as cargo and passenger handling.
Around 2,800 affected employees are poised to join the strike.
The FASAP, on the other hand, has rejected an P80-million financial package offered by PAL management and is calling on the airline to raise the mandatory retirement age for flight attendants from the current level of 40. -- with a report from Israel Malasa, ABS-CBN News
QUESTION:
Why does PAL prefer to hire foreigners intead of the locals? Aren't the pilots in the Gen Av qualified to do the job?
PAL plans to hire foreign pilots | ABS-CBN News | Latest Philippine Headlines, Breaking News, Video, Analysis, Features
MANILA, Philippines – Philippine Airlines (PAL) plans to hire foreign pilots to meet a shortage in the flag carrier caused by the sudden exodus of some of its pilots.
PAL President Jaime Bautista said Saturday they are looking at various solutions following the move of 26 pilots to suddenly leave the company to join foreign airlines.
“Isa yan sa mga option. Merong lumalapit sa amin,” he said. “May mga Germans na gustong magkaroon pa ng pagkakataon na lumipad sa Pilipinas.”
He added that the flag carrier will enlist foreign pilots’ services only if they accept PAL’s wage levels, which are lower compared to other airline companies.
He said PAL is currently training local pilots who will replace those who suddenly resigned without giving the required 180-day notice.
A total of 38 flights were cancelled between July 29 to August 3 after the 26 out of PAL's 473 pilots left without notice.
Bautista said PAL’s operations have returned to normal, but these could be hampered again when the peak season for international travel enters in December.
However, a leader of the Airline Pilots' Association of the Philippines (ALPAP) as well as PAL's ground crew are opposing PAL’s plan to hire foreigners.
Capt. Amado Soliman, an associate member of ALPAP, said the plan is unrealistic. “Hindi maaari yan. I don't think a foreign pilot will be in his right mind to accept the conditions of PAL,” he said.
The PAL Employees Association (PALEA) also criticized the plan.
“Suntok sa buwan ang pinaplano ng PAL,” said PALEA President Gerardo Rivera.
PAL management, meanwhile, said it is ready to act if PALEA members and cabin crew belonging to the Flight Attendants and Stewards Association of the Philippines (FASAP) decide to launch a strike.
PALEA has lashed out at the airline’s decision to outsource the operations of some of its departments such as catering, call center service, as well as cargo and passenger handling.
Around 2,800 affected employees are poised to join the strike.
The FASAP, on the other hand, has rejected an P80-million financial package offered by PAL management and is calling on the airline to raise the mandatory retirement age for flight attendants from the current level of 40. -- with a report from Israel Malasa, ABS-CBN News
QUESTION:
Why does PAL prefer to hire foreigners intead of the locals? Aren't the pilots in the Gen Av qualified to do the job?