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Millerscourt,
Don’t give MI too much credit. They couldn’t “design” a way of pulling piss out of a shoe with instructions. They offer low wages because they think they are savvy businessmen and it saves them a couple of dollars in the short term.
Kaptin,
I have never yet forked out school fees – it makes a big difference in SIN. I would not want to be an FO in Silk with mouths to feed and educate. Burger flipping in Oz would be preferable. No Local nosh for me lah – too many good restaurants serving real food.
Highcirrus,
Some of the muddle headed people you refer to are keen on MI because they are currently being paid LESS, have no chance of command and live in a wonderful location known as Taipei. Or some may be sick of not seeing the family and don’t really want to live in Vietnam by themselves. I know some who are just trying to get a job closer to home than Luton. And it’s warmer and probably nicer in SIN too. Financially, KA is a better package, but not everyone wants to live in the rather un-fragrant harbor. Some don’t necessarily gear their lives to revolve around the almighty dollar. Most importantly, few actually have a choice – you can’t just ring the folks in Dragonairhouse and say, “I’m ready, when should I arrive”.
I sound vaguely like someone defending Silkair and that troubles me but in the real world, everyone has different priorities.
Don’t give MI too much credit. They couldn’t “design” a way of pulling piss out of a shoe with instructions. They offer low wages because they think they are savvy businessmen and it saves them a couple of dollars in the short term.
Kaptin,
I have never yet forked out school fees – it makes a big difference in SIN. I would not want to be an FO in Silk with mouths to feed and educate. Burger flipping in Oz would be preferable. No Local nosh for me lah – too many good restaurants serving real food.
Highcirrus,
Some of the muddle headed people you refer to are keen on MI because they are currently being paid LESS, have no chance of command and live in a wonderful location known as Taipei. Or some may be sick of not seeing the family and don’t really want to live in Vietnam by themselves. I know some who are just trying to get a job closer to home than Luton. And it’s warmer and probably nicer in SIN too. Financially, KA is a better package, but not everyone wants to live in the rather un-fragrant harbor. Some don’t necessarily gear their lives to revolve around the almighty dollar. Most importantly, few actually have a choice – you can’t just ring the folks in Dragonairhouse and say, “I’m ready, when should I arrive”.
I sound vaguely like someone defending Silkair and that troubles me but in the real world, everyone has different priorities.
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jstars2 says:
there would have to be an extra S$58,350 earned pa, which equates to S$5,305 per month (11 months flying 1 month leave)
Are you talking about sector pay, hourly rate, etc?
How many flight hours per month? Anyone knows?
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there would have to be an extra S$58,350 earned pa, which equates to S$5,305 per month (11 months flying 1 month leave)
Are you talking about sector pay, hourly rate, etc?
How many flight hours per month? Anyone knows?
Cheers
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A lot of the comments posted here from ex Silk guys are based on paying the bills for a family - in many cases with chitlens being educated back in Oz where the conversion hurts.
Being single and free of chitlens makes a huge difference.
They do provide you with a greencard - work permit.
Being single and free of chitlens makes a huge difference.
They do provide you with a greencard - work permit.
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Thanx Oicur!
I assume that with this pay, pilots can still live a decent life, providing that they adjust the the local culture and terms?
Everything is relative, that is why I try not to open any value judgement on anyone posting on these forums. Every piece of info is valuable, if you can analyse it as objectively as you can... Everyone's reality is different.
I thank you for clarifing further on the subject. Have you seen any of the posts on the other topic concerning SilkAir (ie. selection), and, do you have any recommendation on that?
Thanks for your help
I assume that with this pay, pilots can still live a decent life, providing that they adjust the the local culture and terms?
Everything is relative, that is why I try not to open any value judgement on anyone posting on these forums. Every piece of info is valuable, if you can analyse it as objectively as you can... Everyone's reality is different.
I thank you for clarifing further on the subject. Have you seen any of the posts on the other topic concerning SilkAir (ie. selection), and, do you have any recommendation on that?
Thanks for your help
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Knackered:
Well, I have read the posts on this forum, and I am quite aware that there are plenty of negative views on the SQ/SilkAir situation.
From experience I know that not everything is negative, and answers to the matter in question depend on points of view/general situation/perception, or however you might want to call it.
Sorry if you think I am favouring a specific kind of answer. I am just trying to see if in anyone's view, there is anything positive about Silkair.
To make a future decision, it would be nice for me to have views on both sides of the argument (if by any chance this is possible).
Thanks for taking your time to answer my post. BTW, it is for a Captain position.
Cheers
MigBird
Well, I have read the posts on this forum, and I am quite aware that there are plenty of negative views on the SQ/SilkAir situation.
From experience I know that not everything is negative, and answers to the matter in question depend on points of view/general situation/perception, or however you might want to call it.
Sorry if you think I am favouring a specific kind of answer. I am just trying to see if in anyone's view, there is anything positive about Silkair.
To make a future decision, it would be nice for me to have views on both sides of the argument (if by any chance this is possible).
Thanks for taking your time to answer my post. BTW, it is for a Captain position.
Cheers
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How far does your money go in Singapore? Well, unless you are plannin on walkin to the airport, then you'll need some wheels. Not too old, though cos it will have to start in 't mornin. OK, 2 year old Toyota should be ok.... maybe 20,000 Sin dollar? Nope, try 70,000, thats a years basic pay. And the cost of gas...get my drift?
But hey, maybe MI guys go on the bus, cos the place you will be renting will probably have HDB in it somewhere.But were'nt we talkin standard of livin here? With no houseing allowance you will feel disgruntled when you find that the majority of expats you associate with do have large housing allowance. You will feel unhappy, and will start to look at flight back page again....which is what got you into the mess in the first place.
But hey, maybe MI guys go on the bus, cos the place you will be renting will probably have HDB in it somewhere.But were'nt we talkin standard of livin here? With no houseing allowance you will feel disgruntled when you find that the majority of expats you associate with do have large housing allowance. You will feel unhappy, and will start to look at flight back page again....which is what got you into the mess in the first place.
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all i can say is
after all the info gathering,
if you apply and get the position,
pls don't change your nick and bitch about the very same things that we warned you.
i think that would be very stale. we have heard it so many times before.
you sound like you've been around the block a couple of times, surely you can sense the underlying tone of this thread??
if you apply and get the position,
pls don't change your nick and bitch about the very same things that we warned you.
i think that would be very stale. we have heard it so many times before.
you sound like you've been around the block a couple of times, surely you can sense the underlying tone of this thread??
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migratory bird,
In order to gleen usefull information about employment with MI, one has to establish your position.
Are you A320 rated. How many hours. What do you fly now and where. How expensive is the cost of living where you live. Have you visited singapore or Asia. What do you hope to achieve. Where do you want to go professionally. Do you have kids, do you like driving flash cars.
Your answers may indicate that flying for MI is not for you. Some of the posts on this thread may be a hint.
However, you may find MI is an upgrade from your current position - who knows.
I suspect that many of the posters here know little about you and what you are looking for.
They will have a different perspective than yours.
In order to gleen usefull information about employment with MI, one has to establish your position.
Are you A320 rated. How many hours. What do you fly now and where. How expensive is the cost of living where you live. Have you visited singapore or Asia. What do you hope to achieve. Where do you want to go professionally. Do you have kids, do you like driving flash cars.
Your answers may indicate that flying for MI is not for you. Some of the posts on this thread may be a hint.
However, you may find MI is an upgrade from your current position - who knows.
I suspect that many of the posters here know little about you and what you are looking for.
They will have a different perspective than yours.