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mattvin 16th May 2014 03:01

just wondering, since its a bridge program between an airline and an flight school. In which part did it state that its fully sponsored by our parents?. Cause no way in hell i would let my parent pay that for me.

ae86kelvin 16th May 2014 04:28

At this point, the HKA provided very vague informations. We don't know know if it is partially funded or self funded. What we can do is wait for their reply and further informations. I applied a week ago and my # is 3xx, I dont see many people have heard of this programme and seem like they didn't do any advertising. I just dont know what are they thinking :ugh:

mattvin 18th May 2014 15:40

I have emailed them about the course because i am about to depart from HK and i want to know if i am selected or not. The Staff did mention about a fee but i don't know much detail.

ae86kelvin 18th May 2014 16:21

How much they quoted you?

Sue Ridgepipe 22nd May 2014 06:46


It seems like no one knows what they are doing at the moment.
That's normal everyday operations at HKA.

mattvin 26th May 2014 12:15

I had to go back yo Canada so i think i am so far out of the program.

hcyow 8th Jun 2014 07:38

'Alarming' number of pilots quit Hong Kong Airlines | South China Morning Post

Regarding the article mentioned about the pilots leaving HKA. It raise another concerned for pilot training, do they have sufficient experienced pilots to help training department and once these new cadets have done their training. The company really put me in doubt position about their capability to ensure career path.

rxsazabi 11th Jun 2014 14:59

Just got this email today

Good Morning,

I wanted to touch base with you regarding the Hong Kong Airlines Pilot Program and provide you with an update. We are currently working on finalizing the pricing and details for the program. Once we get the final pricing for the program I will send out an email to everyone with the details of the program and the pricing for your review. At this point, if you would like to proceed with this opportunity then we will have you register and then set up a the initial screening in Hong Kong at Hong Kong Airlines. I expect this screening to take place within the next month and we will provide you additional information on the program soon.

Regards,

Jeremy W. Vincent
Aviation Training Solutions
Chief Ground Instructor-Dispatch/ATC Programs
So let see how much it will cost...

dolpinsky 12th Jun 2014 07:15

I wonder if they have any plans of providing financial assistance to successful applicants...like paying for the cost in return, applicants have to work for them for several years or repay the cost when they start having salary

The_Architect 12th Jun 2014 08:58

dolpinsky
 
I wouldn't hold too much expectations for HKA's training program. This company is likely to disintegrate in a few years time, it is built merely by HNA as a stepping stone so it can has easier access to the aircraft market and minor dominance in the River Delta. Do you really think HKA can use 5 A380s? All they have to do is scrub off "Hong Kong Airlines", a small swing of the spray gun and it is an HNA aircraft, hence skipping all the Chinese customs.

pilotchute 12th Jun 2014 14:30

When an airline announces a cadet scheme but then says "wait we haven't actually finalised anything yet", I would be very careful.

Really? They hadn't even worked out the price before they announced it???

Dan Winterland 13th Jun 2014 03:29

The price will be similar to the schemes around the world. And what then - do you have to pay for your own line training? If so - beware. You will find you "fail" the line training and won't have a permanent position because some other young hopeful will be there behind you with the cash and the airline can make more money from them rather than have to pay you to fill the seat.

Also, is this open to people outside Hong Kong? If so. double beware. Without a permanent HK ID card, the airline will have to negotiate with the Labour Department to employ you with such few hours and they will probably say "no".

If applicants are form HK, then why not apply to CX and KA?

Fabby88 1st Jul 2014 05:12

Jep HKA Cadet Program
 
I just got a email saying they will release info on July 8th

Amman 9th Jul 2014 04:32

HKA
 
same thing told me will be getting an email by the 8/7 but never got it ..

n8d0g 11th Jul 2014 01:22

Not surprised that the cost is self funded. CX and KA's free program is one of the handful of free ones available. Compared to EU and AU's programs (jet star/ryan air/BA/ Air lingus etc), Free cadet programs are rare.

The cost around the world tends to be similar, the price of PPL+CPL level+ ATPL exams + MEIR + MCC (In EU). Cost is total around 150000 USD. I did my CPL+MECIR at about 125000 AUD (not including cost of living). I did 5/7 of my ATPLs up in Brisbane for about 5500 (from memory) AUD.

n8d0g 29th Jul 2014 09:47

I emailed them last week. I got a reply, forgot to post it earlier, but here it is:

"We are getting close to final pricing still as this is our final piece of information we are working on. Once this gets finalized we will send out an email to all applicants."

123pilot456 1st Aug 2014 16:57

Hi guys,

I just received an email from Jeppensen today:

[Hello,

Thank you for your interest in the Jeppesen Ab-Initio Hong Kong Airlines Pilot Training program. We are currently reviewing all applicants and you have been selected for the pre-screening process.

If you maintain your interest in the Hong Kong Airlines Pilot program, please complete the attached roster/screening form and email it back to us for review. ]

Anyone else got this e-mail? Thanks :)

Fabby88 6th Aug 2014 21:58

HKA Program
 
Hi Guys,

Just got an email from this program.

$6000 HKD for the Screening Process
$116,000 EUR for the whole course:

Screening: HKD 6,000
Includes:
Aptitude testing
Psychomotor testing
Psychometric testing
English testing
Interview if selected

Training program: EUR 116,000
Includes:
Program Tuition and Registration
Ground theory and flight training
Class 1 Medical (with 1 medical renewal)
Uniforms
Housing
All Student Materials including an iPad
Guaranteed pilot interview upon successful completion




HOLYYYYYY.........

pilotchute 7th Aug 2014 02:00

1000 US just for screening and 150,000 US for the course with only the promise of an interview! Are you effing serious?

If it's Jeppeson then it's in the US so the whole flying component should be less than 50,000 US. Who's pocketing the 100,000 USD'S??

n8d0g 7th Aug 2014 02:21

If you open the document the training is not in the US, it is in fact in France, Nimes to be precise.


The price is pretty standard.
ATPL+ MECIR+ CPL and also includes food/accommodation.

As I mentioned before, my Australian CPL costs (on paper before extra hours):

CPL 60000
MECIR 25000
ATPL 5000

Total : 90000 AUD.

As per the email, the remainder costs goes to the accommodation and food and probably some excess for any extra hours required.

The pricing is normal, if a little cheaper than FTE's cost.
This is fairly standard self-funding package and conforms to normal EU/Australian pricing and aviation norms.


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