Dear friend, I appeared in nav atpl on 22nd feb attempt, got 61 marks which is quite frustrating, I had studied from Oxford and Keith Williams, I am not sure where did the rest of the questions came from, questions based on mass and balance and flight principles, e.g. Questions based on stalls, cg etc. I am not sure how to go about next time rather from which book to study from along with Oxford and KW. Can you guide me on that please. Would appreciate.

@rahul

For Atpl Nav and Radio aids you are not considered passed until the day you pass the oral exam
So legally speaking it should be counted from the day you pass the orals
For Atpl Met since it does not have any orals it's counted from the day you pass the written

Word of Caution ***
The DTL section has their own methods of interpreting the rules than the average person so it would be prudent to confirm it with them regarding the validity
Their interpretation also keeps changing from time to time depending on the officer in charge

@sam737

ATPL Nav syllabus consists of Mass & Balance and Performance as well . Am sure you must have seen these books among the Oxford Atpl books
Consider buying the Keith Williams books for these two subjects as well for explanations of the answers
Please refer the ATPL syllabus thoroughly prior to attempting the exam again

http://dgca.nic.in/cars/d7b-b6.pdf

5 years from the date the results of the written are declared.

Thanks Cyril it's something which even DTL does not know lol !

@ Liedetector do you have a link to this ? I tried searching the very user friendly DGCA site but haven't found anything to put an end to the doubt.

@rahul

Lol..... I am not surprised :hmm:


Anyway I think this example should clear the air regarding the result

ATPL result October 2012 without oral

http://dgca.nic.in/result/Pilot1012.pdf

Atpl result with oral October 2012

http://dgca.nic.in/result/Pilot_1012(with%20Oral).pdf


Notice in the first link it does not say pass or fail for those who passed the Atpl Nav and radio aids written exam

Only in the second link with the orals does it say whether you passed or failed

This once again confirms my earlier statement that you are not considered passed until the oral exam results are also published for Nav and radio

^^The 5 year Validity will be from the date of the written regardless of when you clear the orals(given that it is in the 2 year time period immediately after the written).

What is the confusion?

@LieDetector

But you are not considered passed in the ATPL NAV and RADIO aids exam even if one get 90/90
Which is why on the result page it does not say pass or fail for those that get 70% or above in the ATPL NAV and Radio Aids exam

As you said the the exam results are valid from the date the results are published . As far as NAV and Radio Aids are concerned you will only be considered as Passed on the day the oral exam results are published

No. What I was referring to earlier was to deal with instances when the delay in declaration of results(OMR) became a problem at the time of license application, so you could submit your license application with a letter stating that the results are awaited. Now not an issue as the date of exam and the result coincide.

So as per the CAR's section 7

Latest Revision 12 Nov 2010

Subject : ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR WRITTEN EXAMINATIONS FOR
ISSUE/ EXTENSION OF FLIGHT CREW LICENSES/RATINGS.

6.6 "....for issue of CPL and ATPL, such period shall be five years."

Dear cyrilroy21,

Thanks for your help and guidance, I have cleared atplg air nav exam in yesterdays attempt i.e. 15/5/2013.
I am still left with the viva of radio and this attempt nav. Would you kindly guide me on the topics to be covered for both..
Regards.
Sam737

@Sam737

Glad to know you made it this time . However the real challenge is in passing the oral exam

Please refer to this thread to get a feel of the questions asked during the orals

http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...ral-qbank.html

Advise on Met
 

Any recommendations on where to study for the Met paper from?
Any particular airline notes that they seem to be asking questions from?

I had prepared from IC Joshi and Oxford as well to some extent, that helped me clear the paper. There were no questions directly picked up from either of these books with a few exceptions. So just concentrate on understanding the concepts but do refer a couple of books.

dgca ATPL
 

hey guys, I'm a cpl holder (dgca) & want to apply for the jab attempt of atpl exam. Can anyone please tell me how many papers are there the jab attempt ?

thanks in advance

hi can anyone share ATPL Met questions , i know there is no specific book from which dgca asks unline Radio aids and Nav . any help would be appreciated .

hi can anyone share ATPL Met questions , i know there is no specific book from which dgca asks unlike Radio aids and Nav . any help would be appreciated .

I used IC Joshi and Volare questions:ok:

Check your inbox for details regarding MET

Validity of DGCA ATPL exams
 

Dear Lie Detector
The validity stars from the attempt you pass your oral and not your written exams.Only after one has passed his/her oral exam(s),he/she is considered is passed for an exam and the 5yrs validity starts then.
All the best.

ATpl October session
 

Dates for oct online session is released , nov last week

viva qns for radio aids and Nav= Jun 2015
 

Hi Friends,
i had appeared for Orals for Nav and Radio Aids.It was my firsts attempt and it went on for 45 mins...the qns in no particular sequence were :
1. after basic introductions, they asked me the difference between ILS X, Y and Z approach to a particular airfield, differences in the approach. they showed me the approach jepessen chart of Kochi .
2. RNP concept and difference between RNP 5 and 10. what all are the external links or inputs required for RNAV eg rho-theta, ins, irs
3. what is the RNP during approaches and during enroute flying.
4, LVTO and Low visibility landings
5. ACARS
6. RNAV
7. GPS errors and clock error is more over which terrain- built up, oceans or mountanious
8. WAAS and LAAS
9. functioning of GPS no of satellites,
10. RAIM...is explained the concept- then he asked the full form and i answered Receiver autonomous integrity Monitoring and he asked me whether it was remote or random or receiver
11. then EDTOPS and he asked with respect to a flight from chennai to singapore
12. errors of NDB
13. Night effect
14.Frequency Modulation
15. ILS and DDM
16. Auto land system and Fail safe and fail passive
17. Auto brake...
18. Cat II ils conditions.

The examiner was asking basics about a concept and didnt go very deep. he wanted to check whether i knew the basic concept.
in the end he told me gud and said that it loks like i had prepared
thats all guys
Kingraj