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ITAviator 21st Mar 2011 05:55

Ladies and Gentleman, I read through this long thread, this is my part of GD prep, Concluding it..

Let me reiterate what has been said on this thread up till now:

- 5 rounds for each group.
- 4 person/group.
- Whole day session, 10:00 to 17:00.
- time per round ~~30 min.
- One of the rounds, we will be given a writeup and expected to read through it and discuss within our group.
- Another round, we will be given a topic (Aviation/General) and expected to discuss on the same within our group.
- Another round, we will be given a topic and expected to debate pro/against it with another group of 4 aspiring Jet pilots..
- Not sure of other 2 rounds
- Success in GD will lead to interview, which will be within a day or two of GD..

Those who have attended the GD last time, kindly add/correct whatever i could assimilate on this thread regarding the GD.
Also, kindly share the topics which you all got the last time.

Pheewwww, that was long.... but so is the thread.

aviator4u_2012 21st Mar 2011 05:57

@flygirl 2010
 
Thnx a lot for ur help..could u pls throw some light on gd any tips...n further rounds as well..thnx appreciate ur help

phoenixrk 21st Mar 2011 06:54

what is V3 and V4???
 
please tell me what is V3 and V4 speeds?????

aroumika 21st Mar 2011 07:04

@ phoenixrk
V3 - flap retraction speed
V4 - steady initial climb speed

aadityaslg 21st Mar 2011 07:13

arou-mika :P

Pretty good preparation going on I must say!
Well any idea about the GD dates?

What book are you using for performance?
N how about using the ace the technical for the interview?

aadityaslg 21st Mar 2011 08:57

Any answers to this one?
This was one of the topics for the G.D as posted earlier in thread.

Aircraft on Approach with one wing low and winds from right.What is the cause?The engine is allright as it was later checked on the ground.

phoenixrk 21st Mar 2011 12:33

same query
 
please answer the question somebody cause i m having same problem

@aroumika if u know please answer

aroumika 21st Mar 2011 12:46

@ aadityaslg
thank you, i prepare to the best that i can, but you never know what to expect :ugh:
as of now, i am referring to ace technical pilot interview ONLY, it's a pretty thick book so hopefully i complete it in time, only then i can move on to other books
no idea when the gd is as of now, your guess can be as good as mine, i've been told it might be delayed by as much as a week, but this is unconfirmed so far
good question, that really got me thinking, as of now, the only possible reasons i could think of are:
1) aileron reversal
2) if the winds are from the right, there's more airflow over the right wing as compared to the left wing, hence generating more lift on the right wing and the left wing being lowered as a result
i could be wrong though, but atleast i came up with something :E

DeltaSierra1 21st Mar 2011 13:05

there could be fuel imbalance which would have lead to wing drop and cross wind making the situation worse..a probable cause of the incident.

hey guys
Does any of you got called for the GD?

Dualinput 21st Mar 2011 13:58

@ aaditya
Two techniques used on props for x-wind landing are:
1) Crab method – aircraft nose crabbed into the wind to stay on lateral profile
2) Wing low method (sideslip method) – wing is lowered into the side of wind to compensate x-wind. Opposite rudder and aileron used
I am guessing they are referring to these techniques.
Cheers,
google

aadityaslg 21st Mar 2011 16:44

Now when I first read that question, I thought well not much of discussion required here, and came to immediate conclusion of a "low wing x/w approach".

But then the question dosn't specify which wing is low, moreover the engine is checked on the ground for any faults.

So you can safely say that it is not due to cross wind.
Now because the engines are ok there should not be any difference in thrust production from the two engines, which means yaw can also be ruled out.

So far the best option I can think of is fuel imbalance.

The reason its picked up as a GD topic is that, it can have various reasons and more than one can be correct. you just have to give your inputs and support your answer.

Good fun eh? :ok:

impeccable5 21st Mar 2011 19:50

question doesent specify multi engine.

impeccable5 21st Mar 2011 19:52

Aircraft is performing FORWARD SLIP. :ok:

flygirl2010 21st Mar 2011 20:55

@ fibreglass..

ipts are all completed. medicals happen 1-2 weeks before date of joining. your friend must have given the second interview, hence he is in the may batch. you should ask him for full details before accusing me.

for the gd, i say just be yourself. when they say in the mail that you don't need to prepare for the gd, they mean it. i know people who knew/pretended to know a lot about systems/crashes etc who didn't make it through. to be honest, you cant prepare for a gd. the overview of it is that there will be air crash investigations, debates(you are given what side you are on, either for or against), an exercise where you will be given a non normal situation and you'll have to make your own checklist for the same, and a situation where you'll be stuck somewhere with a list of things that you will need to prioritize in order to survive. i was on the first few days of gds in august with not a clue in the world an i made it through. so you shouldn't be worrying. at times i feel the more info you have the more you try to be someone you're not.

as for the interview, again, stick to basics. answer what is asked, don't show off your knowledge and end up putting your foot in your mouth. like any interview panel, they will take advantage of that. i went through different books, pilots handbook of aeronautical knowledge or from the ground up is good, try getting a hold of the jet basic technical notes that they give us when we join for a brush up of what you already know. the aeroplane technical by peter godwin is a fantastic book.

don't forget your navigation meteorology and regulations as well.

for the IPT, the sim is set up on autopilot, you have control only of the heading track and altitude. very basic procedures, starts with situational awareness, radial intercepts, dme arc if any, hold, non precision approach, missed approach.

throughout the process, you are briefed at each step, esp the gd. everyone is very understanding of your situation so noone is trying to intimidate you, not even in the interview. they start off with personal questions to calm you down. very nice people, if you don't understand anything, ask them and they will help you i guarantee it.

enjoy the process. learn from it as much as you can, because hopefully this will be your first and last recruitment.

take breaks in the middle of your studying and hang out or you'll simply crash and burn in the first few days.

@ sierra2467..

noone is going to spoon-feed you and urge you to talk. that defeats the whole purpose of the gd. you need to know when to talk. its like having a normal conversation with friends except you don't know the other people personally. don't cut off anyone. wait for them to finish making their point and acknowledge it. don't stress out during the gd. they will know if you are being fake or being yourself.

good luck!

aadityaslg 22nd Mar 2011 07:55

Thanks flygirl!

Could you please post some of the interview questions, just to get an Idea of it.
and by the emergency checklist do you mean basic stuff like .. Engine failure after take off/ smoke in cabin/ etc.. ?

For the IPT you use the traditional RMI right ? Because what I have heard is they put the heading mode on the ND.

Sierra2467 22nd Mar 2011 08:27

@flygirl2010
 
Thanks flygirl2010, that was pretty useful info

Fly Zone TRA 22nd Mar 2011 19:47

@aviator7256

Same situation as yours. I joined the GD classes in new delhi. Got to know alot of things that i didn't realise earlier about gd. It seems, More than Whats your answer what matters is HOW you answer.

@adityaslg
fuel imbalance is only a part of the answer. i think the question also mentions the aircraft running on a dry tank for some time as well. During our Gd courses we were explained that in case of a multi engine, running an a/c on one tank (specially a dry tank) too long does not only lead to fuel imbalance but also raises the possibility of an air block in which case the engine won't revive even if you switch tanks (the engines were checked on landing remember!?). The whole explanation was pretty long but this is basically the gist of it.

What do you mean "They put the heading mode on the 'ND'"? What do you mean by ND?

@fiberglass it is true that the last batches are still to complete their medicals. I wonder however if our GDs will be conducted sooner or will they make us wait untill the medicals for all the batches are over.

@flygirl Thanks for the information. great help! However, I would like to add that even tho' technical prep may not be required for a debate/discussion (even tho' it will be required in case of the Aircraft emergency situation tests during the gd) I feel Attitude preparation and Understanding is required, as some people (me included) even tho' they may know What point to state, may have touble putting forward the point, as one may not have the exact insight as to How can oneself put up a point in the way that the Observers are looking for. In which case some professional guidance may help.

@thearsenal they don't dig too deep into regs. However you should be aware of the general SOP's

Anyone with any information as to when our GD dates will be out? If they will be starting our selection soon or do we have to wait till the previous batches are all done with their induction?
Also Anyone with any information If Jet is going to come up with another written any time soon, please do post it here.
If anyone may please post more GD and Interview Questions here it will be a great help.

Again Congratulations to everybody who cleared the written. Cheers! :ok:

flygirl2010 22nd Mar 2011 20:18

for the ipt it depends on who is taking your test. they may allow you to do it your way or their way. be prepared with both. you have control over the heading, altitude and track. the heading will not be set or changed for you. again, beats the purpose of having the ipt.

nd is the navigation display.

interview questions were basic tech and met for me. critical engine, performance v1 v2 asda toda etc, itcz, lift drag curve.
cant remember all of them right now. will post them when i do.

aadityaslg 23rd Mar 2011 05:40

@ Fly Zone TRA - Thank You.

As flygirl mentioned the ND - is the Navigation Display.

I dont think ppl who are already done with the Interviews will be following this thread any more, but in case there are any.
Please post some more interview ques.

Once again thanks Flygirl! (btw are you a girl with a girly name, or just a guy with a girly name? Aroumika know what I am taking about, what a heart breaker!):p

aroumika 23rd Mar 2011 06:34

@ aadityaslg
sorry about the disappointment mate :cool:


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