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Ronny1992 21st Mar 2010 17:24

Hey I'm 17 Caribbean national currently in 1st yr of A'levels. I will be 18 by the time I finish the entire course. I was wondering if I should continue on to a degree or apply with my Advanced Level qualifications to get into CX CPP?

Giupi 22nd Mar 2010 13:54

Hi everybody,
I've just applied for the Cadet Programme with Cx!I'm Italian but I'm now living in the UK.Does anybody know haow long does it take to have the 1st interview in these countries?

Thank you :}

happyguy99 23rd Mar 2010 03:13

Hey folks, I'm still here and in line for the cadet program. I thought I might share the timeline I have experienced so far as this is one of the main topics on this forum.

I applied for the cadet pilot program on the 16th June 2009. I received an automated email the same day saying that I "will be notified of the application outcome in 8 weeks." On the application I stated my preferred stage 1 location to be at home, 2nd preference Hong Kong.

I patiently waited 8 weeks and at the end of week 9 I emailed the recruitment team requesting the status of my application. I received a reply the same day stating "your application has already been received. Your application will be considered along with all other eligible applicants in your geographic area when we next select for interviews."

On 6th November 2009, 20 weeks and 3 days after my application, I received an email with an invitation for the 6th December 2009, 24 weeks and 5 days after application, stating "We wish to invite you to attend an initial Interview. The interview comprises a forty-five minute technical multiple-choice questionnaire, a reasoning test and an interview of approximately forty-five minute in duration with both personal and technical questions."

Naturally I accepted the invitation and received a further email with a medical questionnaire and job knowledge information booklet. The outcome of my 1st stage interview was made known to me on 1 January 2010, 28 weeks and 4 days after application.

On the 2nd January 2010 I received an email, following a prior phone call, which said "we hereby invite you to attend a Stage 2 and, if successful, a Stage 3 Cadet Pilot Programme Interview in Hong Kong on 16 to 17 January 2010," 30 weeks and 5 days after my application.

On 22nd January 2010, 31 weeks and 1 day after my application, I received a phone call stating, I was successful in stage 3, and inviting me to stage 4. I was told that since I have some flight experience I may be able to participate in a shortened course of which they still need to finalise with Flight Training Adelaide. They said I would hear from them again in approx one month.

I have heard from the recruitment team since. Last week they went to Adelaide to finalise, as is my understanding, whether or not they will be running a short course. I am expecting to find out at the end of this week. I asked, if I'm successful in Stage 4, when the course might start. I was told that at this time Cathay Pacific is over staffed with pilots and Cathay Pacific does its best to time the course start and finish date to coincide with when 2nd officer positions become available. At this time they think it may be around August this year. This was consistent with the information I received in the briefing at the end of stage 2, where we were told that there may be a stand down period between finishing the course and beginning work with Cathay Pacific. It makes sense economically, no point in training cadets and then not being able to put them to use.

This is all I can say with regards to my interview time-line for now, I'm happy to answer any questions. My advise to cadet wannabies is this, use the time you have between applying and your interviews wisely. I found the interviews with HR and management pilots enjoyable - probably because I was well prepared, they hardly asked a question that challenged me - in fact in this aspect I feel disappointed, however, pleased I was able to answer them admirably. The aptitude testing etc is difficult - find ways to practice your maths and improve your hand-eye coordination.


Time line

16 June 2009 - initial application
6 November 2009 - stage 1 invitation
6 December 2009 - stage 1 interview
1 January 2010 - stage 2 invitation
16/17 January 2010 - stage 2 and stage 3 interviews
22 January 2010 - information of success in stage 3 and expectation for stage 4
23 Fabuary 2010 - phone call asking me to give them another week
2 March 2010 - phone call - negotiations with FTA for short course starting following week, next contact 16 March 2010.

miss_pilot 23rd Mar 2010 05:34

congrats happyguy! do you mind me asking what experience you have?

Bizzle284 23rd Mar 2010 06:01

happyguy
 
That's great news. I'm glad things are going so well for you. Wow 30weeks. Thats a long time. I have the same question as well if you dont mind. What experience do you have? I have a CPL with 250 hrs and I'm curious/nervous what kind of questions they will ask at that level. Also the stage 1a interviews (aptitude and reasoning tests), what are they like? What is a reasoning test? What is the best way to prepare for these tests?

As for the interviews a 45 minute interview is longer than any interview I've been a part of. haha. Wow. My friend tells me they ask some questions about Hong Kong and the area. Is there anything special we should know?

Last question (I promise) - I saw in the email we would have to give a 5 minute presentation on a topic. What exactly is that like and who are we presenting this to?

Good luck to you. You've made it this far so I'm sure your in :ok:

Phili-T 23rd Mar 2010 13:02

Outstanding happyguy99. How did you prepare for stage 2 and 3? Did they fly you there and pay for everything? What was in stage 4?

forssi 23rd Mar 2010 13:22

Phili-T
 
Phili-T, did you hear anything about your CX interview?

Chrisbowe82 23rd Mar 2010 13:55

How long is everybody waiting for interviews right now? I Applied on the 7th September but I haven't heard anything yet and I know people have applied after me in the UK and had their UK interviews already, which got me down a bit...
When i tried to log on, to check the status of my application I had a message to say my it was being processed/considered, but I'm wondering if I should email them before the next UK round of interviews comes up. Good idea, or would it look like I'm bothering them? I can only imagine the thousands of applications they're dealing with at the moment...

rahulpereira 23rd Mar 2010 18:19

@ Chrisbowe82
 
Hey Chris,
I would definitely suggest you to write them an email asking them about the status of your application as it has been sometime since you applied. You would be correct in saying that your bothering them if you send them mails repeatedly but in your case go ahead and shoot them one.

I applied 1st week of dec. and so decided to send them an email 2 weeks back. I got their standard email saying they have received my application and they will send me an invitation according to my geographical area. Sending them an email from time to time will also give them an impression that you are really waiting for it, at the same time I would say don't trouble them also. Hope you get a date soon .

Regards,
Rahul Pereira

0lancer0 23rd Mar 2010 19:08

April 8-16th
 
Hi guys!
After months of waiting I have finally got an interview! (Stage 1) I applied back in August 2009 and just got an email back today saying that they want me to goto Hong Kong because they don't know when the next time will be when they will conduct interviews in my geographical location.(Canada) Will anyone be joining me April 8-16th? Thanks to everyone who has supported me and helped me on this forum. I will do my best to help the rest during my process as well.

AgentJackBauer 23rd Mar 2010 20:15

Happyguy99,

Could you please flick me a PM? I'm in the same boat as you, would be good to keep in touch.

AgentJack

flying_hamster 24th Mar 2010 04:47

0Lancer0
 
Just read your post, and I too will be coming in from overseas to attend stage 1 in Hong Kong from 8th-16th April. It was a long wait indeed, but am hoping for the best from here on.

On a different note, I have gone through the JKI booklet which they have sent, and read on about their fleet, and a few of the destinations. I am getting a little nervy regarding the interview. Are there any other suggestions for further study for stage 1 interviews?

happyguy99 24th Mar 2010 08:05

Hi, I don't mind sharing at all. At the time of my application I held a CPL, a grade 3 instructor rating. My total hours were 300.

happyguy99 24th Mar 2010 08:30

Hi, a quick run-down of my flight experience:

At the time of my application I held a CPL, and a grade 3 instructor rating. My total hours were 300.

I was a little nervous about my interviews as well, it's quite normal and I'm sure they know that. The staff did their best to make me feel comfortable. After my interview I wrote down as many of the questions I could remember. Here are some of the questions I was asked in my stage one 45 min interview:

Human Resource Questions:

1) Describe yourself
2) Do I play any team sports?
3) Why change careers?
4) What do I do in my spare time?
5) What did I like about Hong Kong? (I told them I'd been there before)
6) What did I do in Hong Kong?
7) What do I know about the cadet program?
8) What do I know about the SO?
9) Do I know what the living conditions are like in Hong Kong?
10) Why work as an instructor?
11) What do my parents think of me being here at the interview?
12) What did my parents think when I decided to become a pilot?

Questions from Captain XXX:

1) What do I know about Cathay Pacific?
2) What fleet does Cathay Pacific operate?
3) Explain dutch roll?
4) How many nm in 1 deg of lat?
5) Explain how lift is generated?
6) Explain induced drag?
7) Explain how flaps work?

In my stage one interview I also did the multiple choice test based on the job knowledge information booklet - easy as. The reasoning test which I didn't know at the time is based on Raven's Advanced Progressive Matrices. You can look this up on Wikipedia. It is basically a sequence of pictures and you have to choose the correct one from a possible 8 choices. It's easy to start with but gets hard quickly. I had no way of studying for this as I hadn't heard of this book until I found it on this forum by accident - after my interview of course!

I didn't have to give a presentation in any of the interviews. People may be referring to the group presentation from Stage 2. In stage 2 you work with a group to solve a problem, then one person needs to present the group's findings to the interviewing staff who will then ask questions to the group such as how we came to our conclusion.

Hope you find this helpful.

happyguy99 24th Mar 2010 09:00

Hi, I did quite a bit of work to prepare for stage 2 and 3:

- re-read the job knowledge information book they sent me for stage 1
- studied my notes for principles of flight and performance from my CPL
- read my CPL meteorology book again
- read a book called handling the big jets
- prepared a list of about 140 questions I thought they might ask and how I would like to answer them
- had simulated interviews each about 1 - 2 hours going over the above mentioned questions, every night for two weeks before my stage 2 interview
- studied Cathay Pacific's website - fleet, destinations, visions, history, etc
- studied Flight Training Adelaide's website
- looked at Hong Kong's immigration website
- read a few articles on Cathay Pacific from Australian Aviation
- on the plane to HK, studied using Studio CX, all info about Cathay and HK on their entertainment system
- practiced maths reasoning tests you can find all over the internet

Cathay Pacific did fly me to Hong Kong and put me up in the Headland Hotel which is next door to Cathay Pacific City. All at their expense. I was fiscally responsible for flying to a Cathay Serviced Airport and paying for my meals while in HK.

It seems to me that preparation is a key factor to stand out in the interviews. There was one guy in Hong Kong with us who wasn't invited to continue with stage 3. After talking to him it seemed to me he hadn't really prepared himself, as though he could just wing it. He said one of the questions asked of him was how would he deal with a situation where his girlfriend/partner wanted to leave HK. He simply replied that he would ditch her. I don't know how this went down with his interviewers; treating people in such a way doesn't seem an admirable quality to me.

I am still in line for the final stage 4 interviews. They are currently sorting out whether or not they are able to offer a short course since I have a couple hundred flying hours. They haven't yet invited me for stage 4 but have told me I was successful in stage 3 and I will hear from them soon.

Happyguy

forssi 24th Mar 2010 09:28

happyguy99
 
happyguy99, congratulations.

May i ask how old you are? I've got similar qualifications as you but i think i didn't prepare as well as you did.

flying_hamster 24th Mar 2010 09:29

@Happyguy99:

Thank you very much for your post. It was quite informative, and down to the point. I do feel a little more confident about attending the interviews, knowing roughly what to expect.
I do not have any previous flying experience, so I am assuming some of the more technical questions may not be asked, but as you said, its best to be prepared for those. I appreciate the time you took, and as long as the post may be, I am full of gratitude for the same :)

All the very best to you for stage 4. :ok:

captain reality 24th Mar 2010 12:48

@ HappyGuy

Really? Plenty of Cathay pilots have ditched girlfriends for reasons worse than work.

I'd suggest arrogance isn't a particularly desirable characteristic either. By the way, I think you'll find that a lot of current cadets have more experience than you. Perhaps best not to wait for the short course...

At the end of the day, it's all about who you can stand sitting next to for 12 hours in the cockpit. Good luck with Stage 4 - seems to be more and more people getting cut at FG lately.

happyguy99 24th Mar 2010 20:20

Hi, in my third stage interview one of the Captains asked me if I would be interested in the possibility of attending a short course. I replied that I was quite happy do do either. I don't have the feeling that the decision is up to me, I think they will decide what is best for the company - that is assuming I get through stage 4 as you mentioned. I'm not sure how I can prepare for stage 4. Any suggestions? Thanks for your encouragement all-the-same.

holdmetight 24th Mar 2010 22:51

happyguy99
 

I'm not sure how I can prepare for stage 4. Any suggestions?
Take a look at another thread, "Advanced Flight Grading". Hope it gives you an idea of what to expect. Try your best and don't panic, while it is true that more and more people are failing FG, I'd say it is simply because there are more applicants nowadays than before. As long as you can show them your learning ability, you should be fine. Good luck!


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