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tombo66 8th Mar 2009 10:58

CX ICAO english test
 
Could anyone share you precious exp of cx ICAO english test? It would be great if some detials of test can be provided. I'm also wondering if it is only a listening and speaking test. Many thx

Momogai 10th Mar 2009 15:16

ICAO assessment
 
Lasts about 30 min and is all verbal.

1) Start off with paraphrasing (explaining in different words)

2) Listen to about 7-8 short conversations between people with different accents (5 sentences max - e.g Indian/Chinese/Australian/US/British). You will then be asked to explain what they were talking about and will have to answer a few questions by the assesor in relation to each conversation. The sound quality from the speakers are alright but you will need to concentrate.

3) Analyse a picture and answer some questions in relation to it. E.g Describe what you see .../What do you think that person is thinking..../What would he/she do if something happened?

4) You will be asked to select some items from a list and you will have to explain why you have selected them. The scenario will be made clear to you before you are asked to choose.

5) Watch a short minute video clip (~1 min) and then summarise it. Then answer some questions from your assessor.

Native English speakers should find it fairly straight forward and should of course aim to get level 6 though it is not unheard of to be dropped to a level 5 which implies that you will have to do it in 4-5 years time. If you are deemed a level 5 in any of the six catagories you will be a level 5.

I know a few HK candidates who obtained a level 4. I thought they spoke fairly good English but they only just made it. If you have made it pass stage 2, your spoken English must be fairly decent. So just focus and try not to be too nervous on the day.

Advice - when asked to explain what a conversation was about, try to summarise it in a concise manner and avoid getting talking too much and getting bogged down in the small details. Get to the point!

Pay attention to exactly what the assessor has asked you to do. Sometimes you have to answer questions from another person's perspective, so start by saying " I think he/she would..." and not "I think".

The assesor spoke very clear english. Do ask for feedback and your scores. My feedback was very accurate and I acknowledged where I needed to improve to get to a level 6. I will nail it next time!

Good luck people!

IpSiu 13th Mar 2009 09:19

Thanks for sharing!

Aussie 14th Mar 2009 11:14

Since on the topic, anyone know if native speakers from Aus US UK ect still have to sit this exam?

Harbour Dweller 14th Mar 2009 11:33

Aussie,

Prior to the regulation coming into effect all CX pilots including OZ / NZ / UK / USA were assessed.

Mostly it was done at a sim session with the instructor making their assessment during general conversation.

I'm not sure how they are assessing any new joiners.

hongkongfooey 16th Mar 2009 04:25

I speak proper and they still maid me do it :}

tombo66 16th Mar 2009 10:11

thank you so much for your information!!

BuzzLightyears 16th Mar 2009 11:11

these might be helpfull!


ICAO Aviation English Courses and Testing for Pilots and Air Traffic Controllers

Test of English for Aviation - T.E.A.

Sleeve_of_Wizard 28th Mar 2009 09:15

I just had it the box ticked if i remember right. Was just signed off after a sim without a mention of any test.

BelArgUSA 28th Mar 2009 16:13

Hola, CX friends...
Stupid foreigner here. Sorry, need English language education.
Do you pronounce "tyre" or "tire"...?
Do you say "licence", sorry, I say "license"...
xxx
Saying the "c" sound is not that easy, as I live since 15+ years with the Spanish language.
I have occasionally a "hair on my tongue" to say "c" as in "licence"...
And for the "lorry", so difficult (low-wee), I pronounce it "trrrrruck"...
xxx
Opinion - That ICAO English proficiency is - ri-di-cu-lous.
Never had problems in the old days at KaiTak. You are better than LHR...
Except in NRT, they say REFT and LIGHT...
xxx
:}
Happy contwails...

Lawrence0654 27th Apr 2009 08:11

Hello mates, may I ask a stupid question? Does anyone know about the passing score of this Exam? Must be level 6 or else, level 5?

I am going to take it in the 5 May, feeling ... nervous :P

Anyway, thanks so much for the information.

Regards,
Lawrence

alexpun 27th Apr 2009 15:20

level 4 is the passing mark.
i will have mine on 5th too!
nervous now
:uhoh:

Lawrence0654 27th Apr 2009 18:23

wow...Alex, we may meet at that time.

Cheer up man and Good luck~!!

Lawrence0654 27th Apr 2009 18:31

Honestly, i have least confident in the first part, paraphrase. Since I really have no idea how hard is it. :\

Can anyone, who has undergone this test kindly give me some examples in this task?

Thousand thanks~!!

Aussie 28th Apr 2009 09:47

Sat the exam a couple weeks ago, its fairly straight forward, nothing to stress about guys!

Rex HK 19th May 2009 03:11

CX ICAO English test
 
The passing mark is level 5. Level 4 is the general ICAO standard for flying across international boundaries. CX want people with ICAO level 5 English minimum because often someone with ICAO level 4 English will slip to ICAO 3.x during training.

One of the reasons for level 5 standard is that Cantonese speaking cadets will form small social groups while they are away during flight grading, where they just speak in Cantonese. When they come back their English is 3.x. I recommend that you integrate with other groups and speak in English as much as you can while in Adelaide.

Also this is advertised on Facebook, and it says they are in Hong Kong.
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Their website is Home | aviationenglish.com

alexpun 19th May 2009 16:44

wt a bad news for me
:{:{:{

rmadrid 20th May 2009 01:35

why? have CX called you back?

alexpun 21st May 2009 00:56

no..
but i don't think i can get a level 5:ugh::ugh:

rmadrid 21st May 2009 14:36

but what I heard from the ICAO assessor, CX just requires level 4~

i think i'm gonna call them.....I've been waiting for more than 2 weeks:sad:


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