Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Wannabes Forums > South Asia and Far East Wannabes
Reload this Page >

How to survive in this industry being a SE Pilot

South Asia and Far East Wannabes A forum for those applying to Cathay Pacific, Dragonair or any other Hong Kong-based airline or operator. Use this area for both Direct Entry Pilot and Cadet-scheme queries.

How to survive in this industry being a SE Pilot

Old 24th Mar 2021, 12:06
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: italy
Posts: 3
How to survive in this industry being a SE Pilot?

Hi everyone and fellow south and far east asia wannabes,

I am a student pilot half way through an integrated programme and seek clarification/advise from experienced pilots in the region. Being a naive starry eyed student pilot i was always optimistic about this profession as it was my dream like everyone else's, but the deeper into my training ive gotten, reality struck me harder each passing week. Either due to the discovery of regulations that hinder my expectations or the extreme difficulty in securing a job all of which has left me filled with anxiety about the future.

I come from a very small country with only a single airline taking up the entirety of the aviation sector, no flight schools and general aviation is practically zero. Thus i had to attain my CPL overseas (EASA in this case) with the hopes of being able to get a low hour job elsewhere to make it in this profession. I knew since the beginning that i would not secure a job in europe as i do not possess the rights to live and work in the EU being a foreigner, but i cashed in my hopes of at least finding a low time job somewhere in Asia. I have soon realize recently that most countries/ICAO member states only accepts local citizens and/or their local CAA have set restrictions to foreign pilots in favour of localization of their own pilots. Furthermore, as i have mentioned that there is 0 flight schools in my country i therefore cant get a regular office job, save up and build hours via a local flight school. I practically have to fly halfway across the world seeing that i will be graduating with an EASA license and can only fly registered aircraft from the issuing state thus is not practical, if possible.

I just wanted to know, for a person with a similar background to mine, how exactly can they become a pilot when it seems practically impossible given the odds to even secure a low hour job when most countries in the region only accepts their local citizens. I've seen countries such as Indonesia and Africa whereby they still take in foreign low hour pilots and this seems like my only shot but even then, regulations have been sprouted to prevent them from taking up the market. I can't help but to wonder if similar individuals such as myself, originating from countries where aviation is so minute, whether this profession was even possible to begin with? I'm beginning to think that i had shot myself in the foot considering that there probably isn't an outcome this whole time and that becoming a pilot as a career should have been left to those from the USA where opportunities seems endless.

Yes, perhaps i should have done further research before i had set my sights in training but at the time being 18 year old fresh out of highschool, my concerns were focused more on the actual ATPL programme, flight school options, costs, which license i should get etc. and never would have known at the time about the Part-FCL regulations/jurisdictions amongst the never ending CAA/ICAO rules and regulations texts.

I honestly feel like i'm screwed here and that my consideration in this profession had been a mistake all along since the beginning. Please if anyone, particularly from those coming from the same region or similar countries where the aviation industry is tiny could shed some light in this issue, i would greatly appreciate it.

Last edited by twinotterifr; 27th Mar 2021 at 23:44.
twinotterifr is offline  
Old 24th Mar 2021, 22:06
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Mexico City
Posts: 441
Hello

I like your post because you are owning your situation. Are there are chances of an airline job in your home country once CoVID is over and you possibly have more than a fresh CPL?

I have worked in Indonesia myself whilst there I saw some Singaporean and Malaysian pilots who managed to get work with different companies. It was all Caravan flying as foreigners must have type rating and time on type for anything bigger.

I think Indonesia is your only chance when things improve.
Climb150 is offline  
Old 25th Mar 2021, 12:08
  #3 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: italy
Posts: 3
Originally Posted by Climb150 View Post
Hello

I like your post because you are owning your situation. Are there are chances of an airline job in your home country once CoVID is over and you possibly have more than a fresh CPL?

I have worked in Indonesia myself whilst there I saw some Singaporean and Malaysian pilots who managed to get work with different companies. It was all Caravan flying as foreigners must have type rating and time on type for anything bigger.

I think Indonesia is your only chance when things improve.

Thank you for your response, yes i will be applying to my local airline, but being realistic a jet job is a miracle for a CPL holder with the bare minimums.

Indonesia and Africa seems to be my only hope, i cant help but to think if these countries didn't accept foreign low hour pilots, what options do individuals like me have? i feel like student pilots considering this career path should really know the reality especially since flight schools do not warn us and that your local country/region is a huge influence to your future.

I do intend to build more hours in the hopes of surviving in this industry. Do you have any advice regarding how to work in Indonesia? last i heard the DGCA increased the required flight hours to 250 (not total time) for foreigners to even be considered.
twinotterifr is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.