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Need help with DGCA comp no.

Old 15th Mar 2016, 18:19
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Hello, sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong forum. I just had an urgent query about computer number application requirements for DGCA.

I've completed my 10th, 11th and 12th in Canada. After coming to India I had gotten my equivalent certificate done from AIU. Then applied for comp. no. but the application was rejected on the basis that "marksheet verification from concerned boards not attached". I inquired about this verification thing in Canada but those guys are only willing to give me a copy of my transcript (complete student record) and a letter confirming graduation. There is no such thing as marksheet verification in Canada.

So I had applied once again this time attaching attested copy of transcript, 10/12th marksheets and equivalent certificate. But again it was rejected giving the reason that "verification certificate for 10 and 10+2 from concerned boards not attached". But the transcript is verifying my entire student record. I am at a loss as to what I should do next.

I don't understand what they want when they say "marksheet verification". Would a letter from the board saying marksheet is verified do? Or if I write a cover letter along with my comp no application saying transcript is as good as it gets and it verifies my entire student record, will that suffice?

If anybody here has been in the same situation as me before can you please share your experience? Any help or advice should be greatly appreciated. I'm wasting precious time in following formalities for documentation when I could be clearing exams.
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Old 16th Mar 2016, 18:04
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The DGCA has a public grievance officer who is assigned to deal with various difficulties faced by the public

His name is Mr. Lalit Gupta a Joint Director General ( JDG) at the DGCA. You should consider meeting him in person during the public visiting time on Wednesdays and Thursdays between 2pm and 5 pm every week

Alternatively try booking an appointment via telephone or email DGCA RULES AND REGULATIONS

He usually has a final say in matters relating to pilot licensing

But before raising a public grievance try getting the board to issue a letter saying that your marks are verified after having examined their records. And show a copy of the letter to Mr Lalit Gupta as well if you meet him
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Old 3rd Mar 2017, 09:21
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Originally Posted by skratche View Post
Hello, sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong forum. I just had an urgent query about computer number application requirements for DGCA.

I've completed my 10th, 11th and 12th in Canada. After coming to India I had gotten my equivalent certificate done from AIU. Then applied for comp. no. but the application was rejected on the basis that "marksheet verification from concerned boards not attached". I inquired about this verification thing in Canada but those guys are only willing to give me a copy of my transcript (complete student record) and a letter confirming graduation. There is no such thing as marksheet verification in Canada.

So I had applied once again this time attaching attested copy of transcript, 10/12th marksheets and equivalent certificate. But again it was rejected giving the reason that "verification certificate for 10 and 10+2 from concerned boards not attached". But the transcript is verifying my entire student record. I am at a loss as to what I should do next.

I don't understand what they want when they say "marksheet verification". Would a letter from the board saying marksheet is verified do? Or if I write a cover letter along with my comp no application saying transcript is as good as it gets and it verifies my entire student record, will that suffice?

If anybody here has been in the same situation as me before can you please share your experience? Any help or advice should be greatly appreciated. I'm wasting precious time in following formalities for documentation when I could be clearing exams.
Hi Skratche
Did you finally figure out how to get your mark sheet verification? I am in the same boat as you and did my school in Canada as well. I am waiting for my attestations from AIU and will be applying for my computer number. I just found out about the mark sheet verification.
Please let me know what steps you took?
Thank You
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Old 3rd Mar 2017, 15:48
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Originally Posted by rubikscube1348 View Post
Hi Skratche
Did you finally figure out how to get your mark sheet verification? I am in the same boat as you and did my school in Canada as well. I am waiting for my attestations from AIU and will be applying for my computer number. I just found out about the mark sheet verification.
Please let me know what steps you took?
Thank You
Afte several rejected applications I finally emailed DGCA at this address:<[email protected]>
The following is a excerpt of that email:
Originally Posted by Email

Dear Sir,

I'm blah blah and I've completed my high school education in Canada. I've already acquire an equivalent certificate from AIU. But as I now understand for application of computer number I require "marksheet verification" as well.

Sir, my Canadian school boards do not offer such a service of providing a "verification certificate". In Canada, 9-12 comes under secondary school and there are no board examinations. They are only willing to give me a student transcript which will provide marks for my entire student history of 9-12. This transcript will be stamped and authorized by the board and the Ontario ministry of education.

Sir, would it be alright if I attach the original transcript in lieu of a "verification certificate"? The transcript will be able to verify all my marks on the 10th/12th marksheets. I can arrange for the board to send me this transcript in a sealed envelope which I can then forward to you alongwith application of computer number.

Please let me know as soon as possible how I should proceed towards acquiring a computer number.

Yours sincerely,
blah blah.
To which they immediately responded in the positive.

Originally Posted by response
You may forward the transcript, stamped and authorized by the board and the Ontario ministry of education for the purpose of verification. Make sure that the applications / documents are forwarded as per guidelines published in DGCA web site.

And Voila! I filled out an online form for transcript request from TDSB (Toronto District School Board), emailed them a short cover letter explaining my situation and asked them to stamp it in a sealed embossed envelope.

Then when they sent me the transcript, I did not open it. I just put the entire envelope as it is alongwith my application for computer number in a bigger envelope and sent that to DGCA. For safety I had also attached a printout of the email giving me permission to send a transcript instead of marksheet verification.

They approved it and now I've had a computer no. for the past year. I've cleared 3 exams and am working on the fourth.

My advice to you would be to send an email to DGCA, asking permission to send the transcript. Then order one from your school board (form should be available online - check your boards website). Make sure it is in a sealed envelope and do not open the envelope. Send it as is as a part of your supporting docs with your computer no. application.

Best of luck. Please feel free to contact me if you need any further assistance.
And apologies for the long read.
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Old 7th Apr 2017, 17:38
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Hey
Thank You for your help.
I am so happy to find you. Thankfully, there is someone who is going through the same process as me. It is really frustrating to deal with the DGCA. We should definitely help each other out.

My parents want me to head to Delhi and get in touch with the grievances officer. Hopefully that should resolve issues. I spoke to my Duff Peel board about the verification certificate and they mailed a letter with my transcript to me and emailed the same to the DGCA. Today I got an email from DGCA to send another verification so I have no idea what else to do. Hence will try speaking to them in person and figure it out.

Btw how are your exams going? I have heard they are quite tough. If you have any tips, please let me know.
Because of this computer # issue, I can't give my exams in this upcoming April session although I am taking classes for it now.
Have you gotten through the other requirements like RTR and the medicals?

Are you based in BOM? If you are we should meet up and "discuss" DGCA.
Thanks for your help buddy, really appreciate it.
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Old 9th Apr 2017, 23:42
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Hey no problem buddy!
I'm permanently based in Mumbai, but temporarily reside now in Ahmedabad. I'm planning to move back to Mumbai some sometime soon, we should meet up once I'm settled back.
As for exams, I've cleared 3: Reg, Met and Nav. All on my first attempt and all through self study. My technical exam is on the 12th and I'm hoping to clear that on the first go as well.
DGCA exams are just rumored to be tough, don't worry about it too much. As long as you take them seriously and study you'll do just fine.
Are you part of any flying club?


EDIT: About medical, I had no problems getting my class II but through my negligence it has now expired and I'm going to have to do it again. As for RTR, I have intentionally left it for the end; to be dealt with once I'm done with exams, as I have no idea how to even approach that part.

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Old 13th Apr 2017, 17:17
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That sounds good dude. This gives me hope.
Spoke to the DGCA, hopefully should get the computer soon.
I applied for my Class 2 but I heard it takes up to 2 months to get the result so am waiting on that. Also am thinking do the RT attempt in Chennai. Let's see how that goes.
I got my flying done in Florida last year. So will be converting my license. What about you?
Let me know when you are in MUM and we'll definitely meet up.
Thanks a lot for your help
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Old 19th Apr 2017, 03:37
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I haven't started my flying yet. Just got caught up in this DGCA documentation mess and then decided to focus on clearing exams first.
So we'll see how my technical result turn up and then if I've cleared it I have to decide on which club to join.
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Old 16th May 2017, 09:51
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Hi, I'm new to the forum, living in Bangalore temporarily, and preparing for PPL written exams. I've been told that 'From the grounds up' and IC Joshi are pretty much the only thing I need to refer to for the exam - is this correct? Or should I be looking at other books as well?

Also having a hard time getting the computer number from the DGCA, currently stuck with the 10+2 marksheet verification. Its been almost 30 years since I finished that and moved out of Mumbai, and now I have no idea where to get the marksheets verified . I did find eMarkSheet-A web portal for online verification of statement of marks and certificate for SSC and HSC (Maharashtra) but am pretty sure the DGCA will not accept everified docs. If anyone provide some info, I'd be eternally grateful.

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Old 16th May 2017, 15:19
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Originally Posted by pacholee View Post
Hi, I'm new to the forum, living in Bangalore temporarily, and preparing for PPL written exams. I've been told that 'From the grounds up' and IC Joshi are pretty much the only thing I need to refer to for the exam - is this correct? Or should I be looking at other books as well?

Also having a hard time getting the computer number from the DGCA, currently stuck with the 10+2 marksheet verification. Its been almost 30 years since I finished that and moved out of Mumbai, and now I have no idea where to get the marksheets verified . I did find eMarkSheet-A web portal for online verification of statement of marks and certificate for SSC and HSC (Maharashtra) but am pretty sure the DGCA will not accept everified docs. If anyone provide some info, I'd be eternally grateful.

Pranav
Take a look at this officially published list of study materials from the DGCA:
http://dgca.nic.in/licencing/pilot_ref.pdf

That list does not mean you have to refer to everything on it. Generally you would be better off with RK Bali and IC Joshi. Those are the recommended titles for CPL but work just as well for PPL as well. I've no personal experience with "From the ground up" so cannot really speak to that.

About your marksheet verification, if you were in Mumbai for your High School then your best option is the e-marksheet. It will require you to fill out a form and pay a nominal fee and ask for the reason of request. I think (not entirely sure) it will then mail you or whichever address mentioned on form the actual verification. That's how it works for CBSE boards. There is no harm in trying it out, I say go for it.
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Old 17th May 2017, 04:38
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Originally Posted by skratche View Post
About your marksheet verification, if you were in Mumbai for your High School then your best option is the e-marksheet. It will require you to fill out a form and pay a nominal fee and ask for the reason of request. I think (not entirely sure) it will then mail you or whichever address mentioned on form the actual verification. That's how it works for CBSE boards. There is no harm in trying it out, I say go for it.
Thanks skratche, took your advice and was happy to find that for Maharashtra board, there is an everification option and it's free of cost. Was able to get my 12th verification certificate immediately last night . BUT, the 10th certificate is not available since the board has only digitised sheets from 1990 onwards while I did my 10th in 1989 . Anyway, have sent an email to the DGCA asking for advice on this issue, let's see how that goes. Would be awesome if they can accept the eVerification certificate.

Thanks for the advice on the books, will get a copy of Bali too
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Old 24th May 2018, 14:50
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Originally Posted by pacholee View Post
Thanks skratche, took your advice and was happy to find that for Maharashtra board, there is an everification option and it's free of cost. Was able to get my 12th verification certificate immediately last night . BUT, the 10th certificate is not available since the board has only digitised sheets from 1990 onwards while I did my 10th in 1989 . Anyway, have sent an email to the DGCA asking for advice on this issue, let's see how that goes. Would be awesome if they can accept the eVerification certificate.
Hi,
I am in exactly same situation, did my board exams from Mumbai. Now relocated in other state. Did DGCA approve e-verified certificate for Computer Number? Please reply.
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Old 25th May 2018, 05:14
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Hi,
I am in exactly same situation, did my board exams from Mumbai. Now relocated in other state. Did DGCA approve e-verified certificate for Computer Number? Please reply.
I actually got the 10th certificate verified in person from the Board office in Vashi. Had to spend a bit of money but it was worth it since they accepted the 10th certificate after that.The Board also has the facility for you to send a copy of your certificate by postal mail. In case you are in another state, you can reach out to them:

Address: Plot No. 27 & 28, Saint Lawrence School Marg, Sector-16A, Vashi, Navi Mumbai, Maharashtra 400703
Phone: 022 2788 1075

Hope it helps.
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Old 27th May 2019, 16:33
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Originally Posted by pacholee View Post
Thanks skratche, took your advice and was happy to find that for Maharashtra board, there is an everification option and it's free of cost. Was able to get my 12th verification certificate immediately last night . BUT, the 10th certificate is not available since the board has only digitised sheets from 1990 onwards while I did my 10th in 1989 . Anyway, have sent an email to the DGCA asking for advice on this issue, let's see how that goes. Would be awesome if they can accept the eVerification certificate.

Thanks for the advice on the books, will get a copy of Bali too
Hey did they accept e-verification? I live in Hong Kong and I too am facing the same problem. I got my e verifications but unsure if they accept those or do we have to go to one of the Maharashtra state board offices in Mumbai and get it done?
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Old 27th May 2019, 17:06
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Originally Posted by pacholee View Post
I actually got the 10th certificate verified in person from the Board office in Vashi. Had to spend a bit of money but it was worth it since they accepted the 10th certificate after that.The Board also has the facility for you to send a copy of your certificate by postal mail. In case you are in another state, you can reach out to them:

Address: Plot No. 27 & 28, Saint Lawrence School Marg, Sector-16A, Vashi, Navi Mumbai, Maharashtra 400703
Phone: 022 2788 1075

Hope it helps.
hi
I asked my dad to go there and they took a lot of money from him and in return just stamped a verified stamp on the photo copy of my tenth and 12th marksheet. What does the verification look like? Is it a separate certificate? Cz this one got rejected by the dgca. Kindly help me.
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Old 12th Jun 2019, 04:50
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It is a separate certificate. I sent a scanned image of the same to your e-mail address.
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