Skill Test in India before Conversion of Licence

[cyrilroy21]

Yes you do need the verification of 10th and 12th for the DGCA to issue you an FRTOL .

For those you who are facing issues in getting 10th and 12th verification sent to your home ( for eg some CBSE offices will only send it to the DGCA )

Write a written request for the same . Make copy and get a received stamp on it when you submit the written request at your respective regional office .

In the written request ask them to send to the below mentioned address.

To
Director Training & Licensing,
For File Number 9999/2012 (eg )
Directorate General of Civil Aviation, Technical Centre,
Opp. Safdarjang Airport,
Aurbindo Marg, New Delhi 110003

By mentioning your file number this should ensure that the verification letter is put into your file at the DGCA .
Many times the verifications are sent but once it reaches the DGCA most of the time it wont be there in your file .


Alternatively if your board does not give it to you , you can also ask the flight school in India where you will be doing your recency to request it for you .

[suppu]

recency in india

hey where are the rules about recency are mentioned on dgca site..??

[kanz]

Hey just had a question for multi engine endorsement....do we only have to do the checks or entire 10 hours in India

[cyrilroy21]

You dont have to do recency in India . Only the skill tests .
Same for the multi only the checks and not the basic training .

The link is given on the first page of this thread . But i have posted it again for your convenience.

http://www.dgca.nic.in/circular/FCL1_2012.pdf

Now as far as rumours go........

The DGCA soon will make it mandatory for all those converting their licenses to give the technical specific exam in India especially for those candidates who come from countries where the test is not conducted ( eg FAA )

So to be on the safe side I would recommend everyone to clear the tech specific on the aircraft you want endorsed on your DGCA license . Otherwise you should apply for your license next month .

The rule is expected to come into force somewhere around Jan 2013.....dont be surprised if it comes earlier though.......

[flyhigh07]

Hi guys, i got this letter FROM DGCA ,I got faa medical,logbook and 10,12 certificates..i SUBMITTED MY DOCUMENTS FOR CONVERSION OF FAA CPL ALONG WITH ALL THE REQUIRED REPORTS ON MARCH 30/2012

Sir
reference is made to your letter no nil dated 30/3/12 on the conversion of foreign cpl-reg matter.

Your request has been examined and same has not been acceded to.

Your documents are returned herewith.you are required to comply requirements as stipulated in flight crew licencing circular no. 1/2012 and aircraft rules 1937 on next date of submission of documents for issue of cpl/ir


what does this mean..i havent got the faa cpl too`

[equinox123]

does it mention anything else on the observation letter?...i'm sure it would specify something more than what you have just mentioned.........

[flylikeaBE76]

Can someone answer this from personal experience or being absolutely certain:

Can the multi checks(day,night, IR) be done outside India and all the single checks done in India(day, night, IR, XC day and XCnight), if I am applying for both ratings. I have all ratings endorsed on the foreign license.
Or do I have to do any multi flying in India(which is what I am trying to avoid!)?

[equinox123]

Yes flylikeaBE76, you can do multi checks abraod on the aircraft that has a CoA in India (Pa 34 etc etc) and do all the other checks on the single engine like you mentioned.You can only do this only and only if you have a single and multi both on your foreign license. I'm telling you this by personal experience.....cheers

[flylikeaBE76]

Thanks for the info. I have all said ratings on my foreign license including 3 instructor ratings.
So, to do just the day, night, IR, XC day and night on a 172, I gather that you need an FRTOL(I have an Indian RTR) + SPL? Can I get this done in under a week at the MPFC?

[equinox123]

you will get the SPL at MPFC in a days time.But if you already have a valid SPL then great.......for the FRTOL you need to apply it with the DGCA first.......they will issue you a FRTOL based on your indian RTR.Application is on a plain piece of paper.For details please check this forum on FRTOL issuance

[stiknruddr]

does anyone know if we can do the multi skill checks abroad and only ir chek on multi in india. of corse i would be doing all single checks in india.
i have multi engine from canada but not ir endorsement.

[kanz]

Well you can do all your multi checks in Canada, no problem . According to the new rules you need to do one set of checks in India( Single or Multi). It is advisable to do multi abroad much cheaper.As far as IR check is concerned yes you need to do an IR check in Canada (atleast 45mins). As far your IR is concerned the multi flight in canada will do ....provide proper dgca authorised documents of the skill test it should be good enough, no need to do the same flight in India.A friend of mine had the same case , so I can confirm you on this

[DeanWinchester]

2. Further, the current ‘Guidelines for Conversion of Professional Pilot’s Licenses
issued in ICAO Contracting States into Indian Professional Pilot’s License (Commercial
Pilot’s License)’ allow for acceptance of skill test done abroad provided the test reports are
duly authenticated by a representative of the Regulatory Authority of the State where the
tests have been performed. It is seen that most State Authorities do not authenticate the
skill reports to meet the procedure laid down in the guidelines.

7. All applications received on or after 1st April 2012 shall be accompanied with skill test report carried out in India.

Well, So I guess with the FAA or CAA not authenticating your test reports! & DGCA making it mandatory for Skill tests to be conducted in India, You dont have much of an Option!

[kanz]

Like I have mentioned in my last post...skill test done abroad are accepted if done on proper DGCA authorised documents and attested by the country where you are doing your checks....for that you need to go to your regional FAA office and get the Chief officer sign ....a lot of people from abroad just get their Instructors or CFI sign that is not accepted now, if done that... then no need required to do skill checks in India and also get a letter from the regional office stating the checks done and the CO signature....dont give DGCA a reason to raise a objection

[ronak.akik2k]

RTR and FRTOL

Hi guys,

I have gone through the previous posts and I am a bit confused.
I have a FAA cpl with ME IR and I recently went to Canada and got a Canadian CPL and RTR. I receievd the RTR still waiting for the Canadian cpl to be issued.

So now to get an Indian RTR, if I am not getting it wrong, first I have to send my Canadian cpl to the wpc head office in Delhi to get an Indian RT?

Then have to send that to DGCA to get an FRTOL?

After that do the checks on SE as i already did the Me checks in canada and then submit for the Indian cpl right?

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Also what documents to send at the WPC office for RT? Canadian CPL and RTR is good? And then what to send for FRTOL? Indian RT and 10+2 verifications right?

It's just I am confused between Indian RT and FRTOL.

Thanks.

[Three.Green]

Below is link for RTR conversion form. Instructions are included in the document. Sorry about the big link but thats all I found. It took me 2 months to get RTR. Goodluck!.... Remember WPC issues RTR and DGCA issues FRTOL. To get FRTOL you need RTR. So yes, you are correct you need RTR then you can apply for FRTOL with DGCA. Be careful of your multi checks from Canada as they're only valid for 6 month! F#%K Me... I've been waiting for over a month to get FRTOL.

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct...qrG31-dJkTN_NA

[ronak.akik2k]

Thanks a ton!

Just to confirm, It says

6. (Ref Sl. 9 of the application)
() The applicant is required to submit the duly attested xerox copies of the following documents/papers: (I) Foreign FRTOL and Pilot/FE license (all the pages); (ii) Passport (only those pages

Does it mean I have to submit the CPL as well? Because I am still waiting to get the Canadian cpl issued and posted to me here in India?

And important thing about the draft? It says 50 Rs draft? I am not sure about the amount? I heard it some 5k or 20k right?

And this needs to be sent to WPC HQ Delhi right?

Thanks

[Three.Green]

I forgot what the fee was... but if it says 50 then thats what it is.
And I went to sanchar bhawan right next Patel chowk metro station in Delhi to submit this application. Now when you get there at the main gate there's this small room adjacent to it and you gotta go there and hopefully someone will help you out.

[ronak.akik2k]

When did you applied for your RT? Because I don't stay in Delhi, so will have to courier this at the office...that's why just wanna be sure about the fees before sending the application!

Thanks.

[anirudh_rao]

It is favoring PAO, DOT right? I have a copy of the DD. I can confirm it is 5000 to Sanchaar Bhavan and then 5000 to PAO, DGCA for FRTOL. At least thats what is was a few months ago.

You could call them up during the visiting hours. Guys over at Sanchaar Bhavan are helpful if you talk politely.