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Hehe Third time!
First time.. !
Done that too many times, meaning three here! 
You don't seem to read the instructions and guidelines in Section B. 
For you, so you can guide others better! 
Part – B. Instruction for submission of hard copy of application. (after having submitted
the application ONLINE).
I. Documents required to be submitted by the applicant for obtaining Computer No.
(Pilots)are as follows.
1. Printout of the submitted ONLINE application duly signed with latest coloured Passport
sized Photograph pasted on it. The photograph on the second page under the
“CERTIFICATION BY ATTESTING OFFICER” required to be attested in such a way that
the signature & stamp of the attesting officer covers partly both the photograph & the
page.
2. Date of birth proof – 10
th
Std. Certificate & Mark List, of a recognised Board or its
equivalent or the Birth Certificate issued by a Municipal Corporation / Committee shall be
the documents acceptable as proof of age. The name will be accepted as mentioned in
10
th
& Matriculation certificate.
3. Educational Qualification
a. 10
th
Std. Certificate & Mark List, Matriculation certificate of a recognised Board or
its equivalent for PPL category.
b. 10+2 Standard Mark List & Pass certificate as a proof of having passed 10+2 with
Maths & Physics subjects from a recognised Board/university or its equivalent
examination for CPL / ATPL category. In the case of applicant not having 10+2 with
Maths & Physics and like to use the provision of Rule 47A of Aircraft Rules 1937,
as an evidence for having flown before1
st
Jan 1994, the attested copies (attested
by Gazetted Officer) of first page of his Log Book and the page with Date of First
Flight recorded. In case Basic Qualification has been obtained from Foreign
Country, enclose attested copy of equivalent certificate issued by Association of
Indian Universities (AIU) House, 16, Kotla Marg, New Delhi – 110022. Issue – III, June 2012 Page 6 of 7
4. Copy of Passport & Security Clearance from competent authority of Government of India
in case of foreign national.
All the above documents must be attested by the Gazetted Officers only. Hard copy of
the signed application along with its enclosures must reach CEO within 10 days of
submission of online application.
II. Documents required to be submitted by the applicant for obtaining Roll No.
(Pilots)are as follows.
1. PPL / CPL
Printout of the ONLINE submitted application signed and duly completed in all respect
must reach CEO within 10 days of submission of online application.
2. ATPL
1) Printout of the ONLINE submitted application signed and duly completed in all
respect.
2) Proof of having Indian CPL with Multi Engine endorsement. In the case of Defense
Personnel in lieu of CPL, evidence for having completed 500Hrs flying experience
of which 200 Hrs. should be as Pilot-in-Command.
The documents mentioned at Para above at 2(2) must be attested by the Gazetted
Officers only. Hard copy of the signed application completed in all respects and along with
its enclosures must reach CEO within 10 days of submission of online application.
3. Conversion of Pilots License (CPL/ATPL) issued by Foreign Authority.
1) Printout of the ONLINE submitted application signed and duly completed in all
respect .
2) Copy of Foreign Flight Crew License issued by ICAO Contracting State for the
respective category.
The document mentioned at Para above at 3(2) must be attested by the Gazetted
Officers only. Hard copy of the application along with its enclosures must reach CEO within
10 days of submission of online application.
4. Technical – specific / performance papers with respect to Issue / Extension under
PPL / CPL
Printout of the ONLINE submitted application signed and duly completed in all respect
must reach CEO within 10 days of submission of online application
5. Technical – specific / performance papers with respect to Issue / Extension under
ATPL
1) Printout of the ONLINE submitted application signed and duly completed in all
respect.
2) Proof of having Indian CPL with Multi Engine endorsement. In the case of Defense
Personnel in lieu of CPL, evidence for having completed 500Hrs flying experience
of which 200 Hrs. should be as Pilot-in-Command. Issue – III, June 2012 Page 7 of 7
3) Certificate for having successfully completed the ground training classes on
technical specific / performance on the type aircraft from the DGCA approved
training institute, in case of desired type aircraft is more than 5700Kgs. MTOW /
twin engine Helicopters. It is also required to enclose an evidence to support the
approval status of the training / institute to that effect in accordance with CAR,
Section-7, Series – B, Part –I.
The documents mentioned at Para above at 5(2) & 5(3) must be attested by the
Gazetted Officers only. Hard copy of the application along with its enclosures must reach
CEO within 10 days of submission of online application.
Done that too many times, meaning three here! You don't seem to read the instructions and guidelines in Section B. For you, so you can guide others better!
Part – B. Instruction for submission of hard copy of application. (after having submitted
the application ONLINE).
I. Documents required to be submitted by the applicant for obtaining Computer No.
(Pilots)are as follows.
1. Printout of the submitted ONLINE application duly signed with latest coloured Passport
sized Photograph pasted on it. The photograph on the second page under the
“CERTIFICATION BY ATTESTING OFFICER” required to be attested in such a way that
the signature & stamp of the attesting officer covers partly both the photograph & the
page.
2. Date of birth proof – 10
th
Std. Certificate & Mark List, of a recognised Board or its
equivalent or the Birth Certificate issued by a Municipal Corporation / Committee shall be
the documents acceptable as proof of age. The name will be accepted as mentioned in
10
th
& Matriculation certificate.
3. Educational Qualification
a. 10
th
Std. Certificate & Mark List, Matriculation certificate of a recognised Board or
its equivalent for PPL category.
b. 10+2 Standard Mark List & Pass certificate as a proof of having passed 10+2 with
Maths & Physics subjects from a recognised Board/university or its equivalent
examination for CPL / ATPL category. In the case of applicant not having 10+2 with
Maths & Physics and like to use the provision of Rule 47A of Aircraft Rules 1937,
as an evidence for having flown before1
st
Jan 1994, the attested copies (attested
by Gazetted Officer) of first page of his Log Book and the page with Date of First
Flight recorded. In case Basic Qualification has been obtained from Foreign
Country, enclose attested copy of equivalent certificate issued by Association of
Indian Universities (AIU) House, 16, Kotla Marg, New Delhi – 110022. Issue – III, June 2012 Page 6 of 7
4. Copy of Passport & Security Clearance from competent authority of Government of India
in case of foreign national.
All the above documents must be attested by the Gazetted Officers only. Hard copy of
the signed application along with its enclosures must reach CEO within 10 days of
submission of online application.
II. Documents required to be submitted by the applicant for obtaining Roll No.
(Pilots)are as follows.
1. PPL / CPL
Printout of the ONLINE submitted application signed and duly completed in all respect
must reach CEO within 10 days of submission of online application.
2. ATPL
1) Printout of the ONLINE submitted application signed and duly completed in all
respect.
2) Proof of having Indian CPL with Multi Engine endorsement. In the case of Defense
Personnel in lieu of CPL, evidence for having completed 500Hrs flying experience
of which 200 Hrs. should be as Pilot-in-Command.
The documents mentioned at Para above at 2(2) must be attested by the Gazetted
Officers only. Hard copy of the signed application completed in all respects and along with
its enclosures must reach CEO within 10 days of submission of online application.
3. Conversion of Pilots License (CPL/ATPL) issued by Foreign Authority.
1) Printout of the ONLINE submitted application signed and duly completed in all
respect .
2) Copy of Foreign Flight Crew License issued by ICAO Contracting State for the
respective category.
The document mentioned at Para above at 3(2) must be attested by the Gazetted
Officers only. Hard copy of the application along with its enclosures must reach CEO within
10 days of submission of online application.
4. Technical – specific / performance papers with respect to Issue / Extension under
PPL / CPL
Printout of the ONLINE submitted application signed and duly completed in all respect
must reach CEO within 10 days of submission of online application
5. Technical – specific / performance papers with respect to Issue / Extension under
ATPL
1) Printout of the ONLINE submitted application signed and duly completed in all
respect.
2) Proof of having Indian CPL with Multi Engine endorsement. In the case of Defense
Personnel in lieu of CPL, evidence for having completed 500Hrs flying experience
of which 200 Hrs. should be as Pilot-in-Command. Issue – III, June 2012 Page 7 of 7
3) Certificate for having successfully completed the ground training classes on
technical specific / performance on the type aircraft from the DGCA approved
training institute, in case of desired type aircraft is more than 5700Kgs. MTOW /
twin engine Helicopters. It is also required to enclose an evidence to support the
approval status of the training / institute to that effect in accordance with CAR,
Section-7, Series – B, Part –I.
The documents mentioned at Para above at 5(2) & 5(3) must be attested by the
Gazetted Officers only. Hard copy of the application along with its enclosures must reach
CEO within 10 days of submission of online application.
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dear prince, dgca won't dare to hold back your application, you are a prince after all! but for the rest of us mortal souls we got to play by the rules
on a serious note, i don't see the point of your lengthy post. all that i can say is that the officials aren't really concerned with the picture requirement (if what you are saying is true.)
hope this clears the air.
on a serious note, i don't see the point of your lengthy post. all that i can say is that the officials aren't really concerned with the picture requirement (if what you are saying is true.)
hope this clears the air.
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The Age old story! Blaming DGCA!
DGCA never holds anyone's exam application without a reason (even though reasons are silly, they are still valid reasons! 
) They follow rules, other wise they are whipped!
The long post being you can enlighten yourself by reading it.
That clearly mentions the things you need to do to submit exam applications for various exams, should help wxy!
All I & DGCA are saying "There is no picture requirement in the first place"
Misleading people in a already pathetic system is no good, should do due diligence!
PS: I thought Prince's are mortal!
End of Story!
) They follow rules, other wise they are whipped! The long post being you can enlighten yourself by reading it.
That clearly mentions the things you need to do to submit exam applications for various exams, should help wxy! All I & DGCA are saying "There is no picture requirement in the first place"
Misleading people in a already pathetic system is no good, should do due diligence!
PS: I thought Prince's are mortal!
End of Story!
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Guys has any one got the "Your documents has been received" mail ??
ps. Photos are required only for computer no. application not for exam application.
ps. Photos are required only for computer no. application not for exam application.
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1) Did you make the correct amount of demand draft, were the documents attested correctly & by a gazetted officer???
2) Was your documents & paper application delivered??? Check the online delivery tracking from the speed post.......
3) When you have confirmation that your letter was delivered, then wait for a few days & call the DGCA.
4) In the mean time, Log in on UDAAN site & keep tracking status of your application using the temp ID #
If you have done all that, then CALL DGCA...
If nothing works, in the next few days, plan to make a trip to the Mandir of Big GOD.....!!!!!!!! ( read CEO // office of DGCA)
In the mean time keep studying, you may get the roll # a few days before the exam....... Unexpected things do happen at DGCA.....
2) Was your documents & paper application delivered??? Check the online delivery tracking from the speed post.......
3) When you have confirmation that your letter was delivered, then wait for a few days & call the DGCA.
4) In the mean time, Log in on UDAAN site & keep tracking status of your application using the temp ID #
If you have done all that, then CALL DGCA...
If nothing works, in the next few days, plan to make a trip to the Mandir of Big GOD.....!!!!!!!! ( read CEO // office of DGCA)
In the mean time keep studying, you may get the roll # a few days before the exam....... Unexpected things do happen at DGCA.....
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Hi all,
I'm unable to solve this problem, please do let me know if any of you manage to get the right answer...
Ramp position. 53°21'30''S 02°16'24''
Ins position S53°12.5' W002°36.4'
Time in nav mode 7.5 hrs
I get the answer 2nm/hr but according to the answer key, that's wrong.
I'm also curious toknow what other problems are asked from ins/irs
Thanks
P
I'm unable to solve this problem, please do let me know if any of you manage to get the right answer...
Ramp position. 53°21'30''S 02°16'24''
Ins position S53°12.5' W002°36.4'
Time in nav mode 7.5 hrs
I get the answer 2nm/hr but according to the answer key, that's wrong.
I'm also curious toknow what other problems are asked from ins/irs
Thanks
P
Your figures are a mixture of seconds and decimal parts of minutes, so you must take care to convert these to common units. Your figures for longitude are unclear but I have assumed both positions are West.
The N/S error is INS – Ramp = (S53°12.5') – (S53°21'30'') = -9'
This is a N/S error of 9 minutes of latitude so it is equal to a distance of 9 nm.
The E/W error = INS – Ramp = (W002°36.4') – (W002°16'24'') = +20'
This is equal to a distance (20 x Cos mean latitude) nm
Using S53°17' as mean latitude gives an E/W error distance of
20' x Cos 53°17' = 19.9 m.
Now sketch the situation in the form of a right-angled triangle with base = 19.9 nm and vertical side = 9 nm.
The total error is the hypotenuse of this triangle so we have
Error = square root of ( 9 squared + 19.9 squared) = 21.84 nm
Dividing this error by the flight time of 7.5 hours gives an error rate of
21.84 nm / 7.5 hours = 2.9 nm/hour.
The N/S error is INS – Ramp = (S53°12.5') – (S53°21'30'') = -9'
This is a N/S error of 9 minutes of latitude so it is equal to a distance of 9 nm.
The E/W error = INS – Ramp = (W002°36.4') – (W002°16'24'') = +20'
This is equal to a distance (20 x Cos mean latitude) nm
Using S53°17' as mean latitude gives an E/W error distance of
20' x Cos 53°17' = 19.9 m.
Now sketch the situation in the form of a right-angled triangle with base = 19.9 nm and vertical side = 9 nm.
The total error is the hypotenuse of this triangle so we have
Error = square root of ( 9 squared + 19.9 squared) = 21.84 nm
Dividing this error by the flight time of 7.5 hours gives an error rate of
21.84 nm / 7.5 hours = 2.9 nm/hour.
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Hi mate,
I think you got the departure wrong. It's 11.95
You will see that if you use this figure, you will arrive at the answer I stated which is 1.99 something or approx 2.
can you come back on this? Let me know if I'm going wrong somewhere
Cheers
P
I think you got the departure wrong. It's 11.95
You will see that if you use this figure, you will arrive at the answer I stated which is 1.99 something or approx 2.
can you come back on this? Let me know if I'm going wrong somewhere
Cheers
P
I found the same question (or a question with exactly the same data) in an early version of the Oxford General Navigation book. In this case they had 4.7 nm/hour as the correct answer.
Assuming that we have interpreted the data correctly (it is presented in a rather curious format), the correct answer is 2 nm/hour.
Assuming that we have interpreted the data correctly (it is presented in a rather curious format), the correct answer is 2 nm/hour.
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an aircraft is flying from airport A to airport B. both are in southern hemisphere. Chart factor is 0.6 and rhumb line track from A to B is 095(T). Airport A is located on 130E and airport B is located on 170E. which meridian represents the one at which aircraft will be closest to south pole?
anyone?
anyone?
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an aircraft is flying from airport A to airport B. both are in southern hemisphere. Chart factor is 0.6 and rhumb line track from A to B is 095(T). Airport A is located on 130E and airport B is located on 170E. which meridian represents the one at which aircraft will be closest to south pole?
anyone?
anyone?
Do they actually ask such questions ??
The following is based on the assumption that the aircraft flies a great circle track.
Great circle direction = Rhumb line direction + Conversion Angle
Conversion angle = ½ change in longitude x sin of mean latitude
We do not know the mean latitude, but we know that the chart factor is 0.6. The trick here is to remember that the chart factor is the sine of the mean latitude. So we know that the sine of the mean latitude is 0.6
The change of longitude between A and B is 170E – 130E = 40 degrees.
So we have
So Conversion angle = ½ x 40 degrees x 0.6 = 12 degrees.
The Rhumb Line Track is 095 degrees
Great circle track = Rhumb Line track + conversion angle
So we have
Great circle track at A = 95 + 12 = 107 degrees
And
Great Circle track at B = 95 – 12 = 83 degrees.
So over the change of longitude of 40 degrees we have a change of track of 107 – 83 = 24 degrees. (Which is of course just the convergence)
This means that the track is changing at rate of 24 / 40 = 0.6 degree per degree of longitude. (Which is of course just the chart factor)
All Great circles other than the Equator and the Meridians are convex to the nearest pole. In this case the aircraft is in the southern hemispheres and the track is in a generally easterly direction. As the aircraft progresses along this track it will gradually turn away from the South Pole. It will reach its closest point to the South Pole when its track is 090. From this point onwards it will turn north and its southerly latitude will decrease.
The initial great circle track is 107 so to get to a track of 090 the track must decrease by 107 – 90 = 17 degrees.
The track changes at a rate of 0.6 degrees per degree of longitude change, so a decrease of 17 degrees requires a longitude change of 17 / 0.6 = 28.33 degrees.
Adding this to the initial longitude of 130E give a longitude of 158.33E.
So the aircraft reaches its most southerly position when it is at longitude 158.33E.
Great circle direction = Rhumb line direction + Conversion Angle
Conversion angle = ½ change in longitude x sin of mean latitude
We do not know the mean latitude, but we know that the chart factor is 0.6. The trick here is to remember that the chart factor is the sine of the mean latitude. So we know that the sine of the mean latitude is 0.6
The change of longitude between A and B is 170E – 130E = 40 degrees.
So we have
So Conversion angle = ½ x 40 degrees x 0.6 = 12 degrees.
The Rhumb Line Track is 095 degrees
Great circle track = Rhumb Line track + conversion angle
So we have
Great circle track at A = 95 + 12 = 107 degrees
And
Great Circle track at B = 95 – 12 = 83 degrees.
So over the change of longitude of 40 degrees we have a change of track of 107 – 83 = 24 degrees. (Which is of course just the convergence)
This means that the track is changing at rate of 24 / 40 = 0.6 degree per degree of longitude. (Which is of course just the chart factor)
All Great circles other than the Equator and the Meridians are convex to the nearest pole. In this case the aircraft is in the southern hemispheres and the track is in a generally easterly direction. As the aircraft progresses along this track it will gradually turn away from the South Pole. It will reach its closest point to the South Pole when its track is 090. From this point onwards it will turn north and its southerly latitude will decrease.
The initial great circle track is 107 so to get to a track of 090 the track must decrease by 107 – 90 = 17 degrees.
The track changes at a rate of 0.6 degrees per degree of longitude change, so a decrease of 17 degrees requires a longitude change of 17 / 0.6 = 28.33 degrees.
Adding this to the initial longitude of 130E give a longitude of 158.33E.
So the aircraft reaches its most southerly position when it is at longitude 158.33E.
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