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Dragonair Pre-qualified Cadets

Old 18th Jan 2011, 23:20
  #81 (permalink)  
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Flight grading

Sounds fun. Well done - keep it up and good luck.
Would be very interested in the detailed summary and hopefully fly with you one day!
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Old 22nd Jan 2011, 11:09
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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flight grading

hi people,

as quite a few of you were interested, i'll just post it here. Hope thats alright with you guys. Anyways, here it is:

Dragonair Advanced Flight Grading: Diamond Twinstar DA42-L360

Flight 1: General handling
- straight and level
- Climbing and descending
- Turns:- medium, Steep
- Climbing and descending turns
- Stalls:- Full clean stall, incipient stall in landing config
- Unusual attitudes

Fight 2: Circuits
- normal
- flapless
- short field
- engine failure after takeoff
- engine failure on downwind
- asymmetric go-around
- asymmetric landing

Flight 3: Instrument Flying
- same as Flight 1 but under the hood

Flight 4: VFR nav
- around five legs including one diversion. Google map helps a lot, just look up what the places look like beforehand.
- You are given a flight plan and a map with the legs drawn on for you. All the winds , distances, tracks, hdgs and times are given as well.
- You don't need to do any planning but make sure you know how to do diversions.

Flight 5: IFR nav + VOR approach
- Similar to the VFR nav, no diversions though.
- Again, all the planning is done for you.
- So all you hv to do is fly what the flight plan says
- making sure you do all the procedures (climb checks, cruise checks, pre-descent checks etc)

Flight 6: ILS approach
- After take-off, you're radar vectored to intercept an ILS thats close by

Flight 7: Combo flight
- the last flight goes through everything you've done from flight 1-6.

good luck everyone!
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Old 22nd Jan 2011, 23:46
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thanks rookie P.

Very detailed and I think it is beyond what Normal CCP would be tasked. Thanks nonetheless!
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Old 23rd Jan 2011, 14:33
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WOW, Looks like a CPL test to me and a bit of I/R.
May I ask for the diversion, is Vortrack allow?
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Old 25th Jan 2011, 07:11
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Yeah it was pretty hectic, especially when you haven't flown a twin for 6 months. But thats all done and dusted now, on to JTS

Vortrack is not allowed im afraid. With the G1000, you have the ND to your right which shows your track and ground speed. So as long as you keep on your tracks (adjusting hdg for wind), you'll be fine

Forgot to mention that you have to do an unmanned joining procedure at an airfield on the VFR nav. They call it a CTAF over here. You should get all the info you need for that and more from the Australian CASA website
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Old 30th Jan 2011, 03:26
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quick question-

what are the chances of the HKID restrictions being lifted to make the dragonair cadetship on par with the cathay?
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Old 1st Feb 2011, 09:13
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Anyone of you done the ICAO assessment test? And fail?
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Old 2nd Feb 2011, 00:44
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ICAO assessment test? And fail?
I have heard of such cases. You are directed towards specific training (at your own cost) referred by your assessor and you will be retrained again and again until you pass it.
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Old 22nd Feb 2011, 08:04
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pre-qualified cadets recruitment

hi everyone, i'm a fresh grad pilot with 200hours from malaysia. Any advise for me in order to get a job? i'm aware of Dragonair is hiring pre-qualified cadets but with requirement of HK citizen.

Anything that i can do with it?
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Old 22nd Feb 2011, 09:50
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drewteh, you must have HK residency rights for the KA scheme.

Do you have Malaysia residency rights ? If so, you'd be better off applying for airlines in Malaysia as they don't employ those without.

Postscript to my last post: Pilots have been known to FAIL the ICAO test.
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Old 22nd Feb 2011, 10:19
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thanks for your information
yea, i tried to apply local airlines and am waiting for the news.
just would like to try my luck for oversea airlines. =]
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Old 26th Feb 2011, 11:35
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Hey all,

Has anyone here been interviewed lately, or is still in the process of progressing through the interview processes? If there are any tips, especially for pre-qualified cadets preparation, I'd highly appreciate it.

Thanks a lot in advance =)
Cheerz, All the Best!!!
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 04:09
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Question Does Dragon air take Indian CPL holders with around 300 hours flying

Can anyone answer this:
Does Dragon air take Indian CPL holders with around 300 hours flying
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 13:30
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Have you find out the answer to your "glasses" question?

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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 01:00
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Senior Eagle - answer to your question is no. However, im sure if you try one of your local carriers you should be able to get a job... the girl centainly did!

IndiGo pilot faked licence documents, 'landed planes on nose wheel'
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Old 6th Mar 2011, 10:26
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Pic Pic U/s Spic P U/t

Hello all,

I am going through the papers KA sent me and filling out the “flying experience” form.

What is the difference between:

PIC (Pilot in command)
PIC U/S (Pilot in command under supervision)
SPIC (Student Pilot in command)
P U/T (Pilot under training)

I have been trying to look up for their definitions from the HK CAD website but unsuccessful.

Million Thanks,
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Old 6th Mar 2011, 18:01
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PIC is mainly you fly the aircraft by yourself such as solo flying.

PIC U/S is when you fly the aircraft under your command but with supervision of an examiner such as taking a flight test.

SPIC is only applicable if you did your training on an integrated route. Howeve though, HKCAD only recognise Adelaide flt school! If you did it else where then it will be count as P1 U/T

P U/T is where you receive instructions from your instructor when you learn to fly i.e Dual flt.

You can also check it out on HKCAD website!
Hope it helps.

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Old 13th Mar 2011, 09:15
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Thanks n.dave for your help!

Does anyone know do they take "Recency" into account while they evaluate a candidate's flying experience?

I haven't flown nor shoot an ILS approach for years. Anyone has the similar situation?

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Old 14th Mar 2011, 01:40
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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Dragonair Career Path

Hi All:

I just have a couple of queries which I hope someone can answer:
a) I read somewhere that the flight assessment is about 6 weeks, does that include the indoctrination stage if accepted?
b) I assume that those offered a job after will serve as SO's on KA. Anyone know which fleet the SO's will fly and how long is the upgrade to JFO at KA?

Many Thanks.
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Old 29th Mar 2011, 16:02
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Join Date: May 2010
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I just got an interview invitation (PQCPP) from KA to be conducted in HK, but I am in US now. Do you guys know if KA has or will start conducting interviews overseas?
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