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Research first etrang.... Research.....
http://www.pprune.org/fragrant-harbo...a-c-scale.html
(Many similar comments on other threads).
http://www.pprune.org/fragrant-harbo...a-c-scale.html
(Many similar comments on other threads).
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Hey everyone,
Just got the green light for stage 2, which will prop be in January. Would really like to hear from anyone else who also just recently got their next stage email cause a study buddy is always agood thing to have.
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And while I am here, with all due respect, this thread has lost its way quite afew pages ago, if it is a whinge or an anti icadet comment you want to make about this program that's fine, but why not start up your own thread where you can moan & groan as much as you like there, maybe it could be called 'I think CX icadet program is ****house' or something along those lines. I'm sure the clever ones out there will brainstorm something creative.
This thread is suppose to be for those seeking helpful information about the program & the steps involved, many of us know what we are getting ourselves into and that is our chioce & in our situations the program suits just fine. Now, whos up for abit of study...
Just got the green light for stage 2, which will prop be in January. Would really like to hear from anyone else who also just recently got their next stage email cause a study buddy is always agood thing to have.
Regards
And while I am here, with all due respect, this thread has lost its way quite afew pages ago, if it is a whinge or an anti icadet comment you want to make about this program that's fine, but why not start up your own thread where you can moan & groan as much as you like there, maybe it could be called 'I think CX icadet program is ****house' or something along those lines. I'm sure the clever ones out there will brainstorm something creative.
This thread is suppose to be for those seeking helpful information about the program & the steps involved, many of us know what we are getting ourselves into and that is our chioce & in our situations the program suits just fine. Now, whos up for abit of study...
etrang
And what would you suggest we do. Most of us here are already doing contract complience and the AOA has been trying to negotiate with the company about housing for the last 18 months. Before you answer the question I suggest you research HK labour laws and the rights of employees to take industrial action.
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While I personally dont condone some of the language used on this forum explaining the pitfalls of the iCadet scheme, they have the right to say it. If you choose to behave like an ostridge and stick your head in the sand that is your business but for your sake I hope you arent the first to complain about the costs of living here if you make it in.
If you really want the situation to change, CB, its those existing CX pilots you should be talking to, not the wanabees. And if those pilots do agree with you, one has to ask; why they have done nothing to address this situation?
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While I personally dont condone some of the language used on this forum explaining the pitfalls of the iCadet scheme, they have the right to say it. If you choose to behave like an ostridge and stick your head in the sand that is your business but for your sake I hope you arent the first to complain about the costs of living here if you make it in.
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Ground to air -
Hear Hear, this thread went off the rails by the same guys bantering backwards and forwards a long time ago.
And I also just found out I have been accepted to the final interview in HKG, no date as yet.
Hear Hear, this thread went off the rails by the same guys bantering backwards and forwards a long time ago.
And I also just found out I have been accepted to the final interview in HKG, no date as yet.
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Again, with all due respect, I have conducted my research and made my decision, and am fully aware of how to survive if I make it all the way, its not rocket science, and if one is able to get him/herself to that lvl of employment I am sure figuring out how to keep the roof over ones head will not be that much of a challenge.. after all, we are not a bunch of brick layers are we?
And yes, you are correct, everyone has the right to add their two cents, but helpful pro active two cents comments are what pple are after & not pages & pages of 3-5 personalities bickering nd tearing each others comments apart trying to prove they know the most or are the best.
Know before I am accused of bickering myself, I think enough has been siad on my behave, but I know there are afew out there that are just scratching to respond to my ostridge type attitude, Let's see if I can be proven wrong.
All the best guys.
Again, with all due respect, I have conducted my research and made my decision, and am fully aware of how to survive if I make it all the way, its not rocket science, and if one is able to get him/herself to that lvl of employment I am sure figuring out how to keep the roof over ones head will not be that much of a challenge.. after all, we are not a bunch of brick layers are we?
And yes, you are correct, everyone has the right to add their two cents, but helpful pro active two cents comments are what pple are after & not pages & pages of 3-5 personalities bickering nd tearing each others comments apart trying to prove they know the most or are the best.
Know before I am accused of bickering myself, I think enough has been siad on my behave, but I know there are afew out there that are just scratching to respond to my ostridge type attitude, Let's see if I can be proven wrong.
All the best guys.
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Transition Training (TT) Interview HK
Will be doing the TT stage 1 in HK on the 21st. next Monday. PM me if anyone else wants to link up. will be there from the 19th evening at Novotel Citigate.
Boxerpilot,
Have you done your research?? - I am sure there has to be another job out there than CX; especially as a 39 year old with flying hours...you got kids and a wife?? CX is not after experience anymore...only young kids without hours...
Have you done your research?? - I am sure there has to be another job out there than CX; especially as a 39 year old with flying hours...you got kids and a wife?? CX is not after experience anymore...only young kids without hours...
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Is 44 years too old? For this program, almost certainly. Sorry to say this, but at least 15 years too late, maybe more.
Is there a housing allowance? HKD10K/month. Hopelessly inadequate - unless you're happy living in 500sq ft squalor in a VERY local area. Think "projects".
Salary on course? No. Pocket money, like for your teenage kids. Most of the children on course (unlike you) have no overheads - except Noxema and Clearasil.
A suggestion: read this entire thread, beginning to end, for your answers. It will take some time, but a small investment in what could be a disastrous decision.
And prepare to be flamed.
Is there a housing allowance? HKD10K/month. Hopelessly inadequate - unless you're happy living in 500sq ft squalor in a VERY local area. Think "projects".
Salary on course? No. Pocket money, like for your teenage kids. Most of the children on course (unlike you) have no overheads - except Noxema and Clearasil.
A suggestion: read this entire thread, beginning to end, for your answers. It will take some time, but a small investment in what could be a disastrous decision.
And prepare to be flamed.
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When you reach age 50, you can get to slide into the RHS and put your Cessna skills to work on the tripler. Meanwhile, you've wasted many years of your life in a one-room shanty with Formica countertops and a glorious view of the least HK has to offer.
Why still, at age 44 are you only interested in cadet programs? There have been many, many opportunities for you to make a move into the piloting profession in the USA. Be prepared to answer this question. There are twenty-somethings in the LHS of regional jets making 75K USD per annum, paying their loans back, and you're only interested in cadet schemes. Interesting.
Why still, at age 44 are you only interested in cadet programs? There have been many, many opportunities for you to make a move into the piloting profession in the USA. Be prepared to answer this question. There are twenty-somethings in the LHS of regional jets making 75K USD per annum, paying their loans back, and you're only interested in cadet schemes. Interesting.
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Too old?
Well u could say I am too old too late. But essentially I am retiring from the military with a pension and the wife has a job in Perth with the kids in school there. It's not a DEFO scheme but DESO no doubt. Disposable income from rental properties so essentially looking at a 25year career in CX from 40. Guess its no A or B scale. But military hours fast jet isn't much in the World of heavies unless I wanna fast tracked jon in a Low Cost Carrier as a Direct Entry SFO on A320s. Still undecided. Keep the views and comments going guys. I hear u.
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Candidly, you're not likely - given your (advanced) years and (lack of) experience - to get a look in.
Do the math. It doesn't pay off for CX.
Again, candidly, you've got SJS and need a detox.
Do the math. It doesn't pay off for CX.
Again, candidly, you've got SJS and need a detox.
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I'm not sure if age is a barrier
Bonanza41,
I went through the Cathay recruitment process for Ab-initio about 2 years ago. I got all the way to Hong kong for the final interview stages but wasn't successful. I've just turned 38 and they didn't seem to have a problem with my age. I guess the best way to find out is to apply and if you don't get a shot then you've got your answer.
Although i was understandably pissed at not getting through, in hindsight the issue of no/meagre housing allowance living in a very expensive (accommodation wise) city and a poor pay scale (relative to every other pilot I'd be flying with) made me realise that there are perhaps there were better options out there.
Make sure you do your research into the cost of living in HK and whether you'll be happy scrimping and saving at this stage of your life. Regardless, I feel your pain and good luck with whatever you decide.
Bird-dog
I went through the Cathay recruitment process for Ab-initio about 2 years ago. I got all the way to Hong kong for the final interview stages but wasn't successful. I've just turned 38 and they didn't seem to have a problem with my age. I guess the best way to find out is to apply and if you don't get a shot then you've got your answer.
Although i was understandably pissed at not getting through, in hindsight the issue of no/meagre housing allowance living in a very expensive (accommodation wise) city and a poor pay scale (relative to every other pilot I'd be flying with) made me realise that there are perhaps there were better options out there.
Make sure you do your research into the cost of living in HK and whether you'll be happy scrimping and saving at this stage of your life. Regardless, I feel your pain and good luck with whatever you decide.
Bird-dog
Boxerpilot,
You seem to be quite sensible (and well balanced) about this whole thing so if you allow I would like to comment the following...
- your income situation is different to the other kids but should you really use your investments to subsidize an airline career?
- you might be able to commute to Perth if you are on the right fleet (B777)
- there won't be a Perth base later down the track
- time to upgrade to FO will be 4+ years
If you go to JQ for 2 years and then move on you could be a captain at EK/QR by the age of 45 - you will not see a command at CX till you hit 55+ (and also consider the your income from your potential airline career if you compare CX in a shoebox vs. JQ + Middle East including a villa).
Please keep these points in mind - if you got more questions feel free to post them; mature applicants like you will get mature answers...at least from me...
AB
You seem to be quite sensible (and well balanced) about this whole thing so if you allow I would like to comment the following...
- your income situation is different to the other kids but should you really use your investments to subsidize an airline career?
- you might be able to commute to Perth if you are on the right fleet (B777)
- there won't be a Perth base later down the track
- time to upgrade to FO will be 4+ years
If you go to JQ for 2 years and then move on you could be a captain at EK/QR by the age of 45 - you will not see a command at CX till you hit 55+ (and also consider the your income from your potential airline career if you compare CX in a shoebox vs. JQ + Middle East including a villa).
Please keep these points in mind - if you got more questions feel free to post them; mature applicants like you will get mature answers...at least from me...
AB
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This is indeed a tricky question and one which we have not come across as yet anywhere on this or other forums. I doubt whether even calling CX could help you.
My best advice would be to do nothing. That means no study, no research, no reading anywhere else. I'm 100% positive that if you religiously check this website every hour someone just may....just "may" post this same question again very, very soon.
My best advice would be to do nothing. That means no study, no research, no reading anywhere else. I'm 100% positive that if you religiously check this website every hour someone just may....just "may" post this same question again very, very soon.
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TOUCHE! CB you win! HAHAHAHAHA mate that answer almost made me spit out my drink laughing.For the one who asked that question, take a look back through the pages. That question/answer group is there a million times. I honestly think on some it says about 8 months and some have waited longer. Good luck.