Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

[Em773ER]

blacklabel

You're all dillusional and have no interest in learning anything or doing anything for Cx.

You ill informed arrogant . Its ok to be an anti-cadet scheme person, but to call those who consider cadetships as an "option", delusional (check your spelling as well) truly shows your lack of a professional demeanour. You're wrong that wannabes wanting to do the cpp are not interested in doing anything for CX.... because as I see it, they would be doing CX a BIG financial favour, the T&Cs clearly show that.

None of you spoilt little selfish snorts know what it's like working three jobs coz you've got a young family to feed, spent 100g on your training and working in GA pays you less than any possible unskilled form of labor in the country.

My educated guess is that you are some bitter GA driver who can't catch a break. How do you expect a 17 year old kid in a 3rd world country with poor parents to fund flight training? and on top of that get the so called "GA dream job" you are so proud of?... I am not a "do the iCad coz its free training" wannabe, but YOUR delusional assumption that EVERY cadet wannabe has the ability/opportunity to self fund is ridiculous.

If you feel so strongly about this and before assuming that the cpp is all wannabes want, why don't YOU give every wannabe a 100g towards flight training .. I most certainly would gladly forget about the CX CPP (and the hope of better T&Cs) and slog it out in GA to gain the priceless experience iCads never get. So not all of us are delusional and lack the desire to learn in this industry, we just lack options.


Just out of curiosity... to all the current expat/local CX pilots out there If CX offered the international cpp with B scale T&Cs how many of you would have done it instead of the GA way?, or even A-scale T&Cs.

[carpet weaver]

Can anyone please give me some insight on the stage 3 medical? What kind of test's will they do and so on....

thanks in advance

[mugzy]

You're wrong that wannabes wanting to do the cpp are not interested in doing anything for CX.... because as I see it, they would be doing CX a BIG financial favour, the T&Cs clearly show that.

That's just a hateful lie. If you have done the research and have applied for the cadetship program then you're in no position to whine about the T&Cs. No offense but this attitude and lack of maturity is not going to get you very far in this industry.

[Em773ER]

Fair enough blacklabel, I actually agree with you now that I understand what you meant (especially the jet* cadet program).

That's just a hateful lie. If you have done the research and have applied for the cadetship program then you're in no position to whine about the T&Cs. No offense but this attitude and lack of maturity is not going to get you very far in this industry.

Who said anyone is whining?!?! How is that a hateful lie?. So what if I applied? An application is just a bunch of info on a paper. Those who are not in the position to whine are current CX pilots who joined via the cadetship, that were warned... why don't you worry about your own maturity before insulting someone based on a misinterpretation...

[TopTup]

The over-riding trend here is money: who can make the most out of starry-eyed cadets thinking they're getting a free and fast tracked ride onto a pretty jet.

I am appalled at the level of "it's too hard" to go via a traditional route of working to earn for flight training, let alone the mere mention of actually doing what's been referred to as "hard yards" in GA for a few thousand hours where the real learning comes from. Generation Y I think it's called.

Cathay used to be a great airline: a standard setter. Now it is just another airline where safety is nothing more than a sales pitch. It's all about money and nothing else. They'll use and abuse the dreams of wannabes to make that money: the iCadet scheme.

I feel sorry for these kids being taken advantage of AND the utter naivety of the bigger long term picture.

Such a shame that Cathay's name is being drawn into conversations with the likes of AirAsia, Jetstar and other low cost airlines. What was at the pinnacle is now eagerly racing to join the cheap and nasty due to nothing but greed and the acceptance of it.

Whilst I'm sure this will fall on deaf ears, here's a thread of us with more laps around this rock than many cadets have had hot meals think:

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/4...s-slammed.html

You kids are only thinking short term, not long. Em773ER has written a good breakdown on some costs but there is very little if at all allowance for unforeseen costs or as mentioned somewhere about quality of life. If "slotsdown" is the kind of applicant drawn to CX (and he/she obviously is) then CX is dead as the airline it once was.

[q400driver]

A few questions if anyone can shed some light:

1.) On top of regular salary, what are the per diems, hourly flight pay, overnight pay, and 13th month salary??

2.) New hires on the cadet/SO, what routes are they mainly flying??

3.) If one was to enter the 12-week transition training, does that still involve training on a single engine piston aircraft??

4.) Can anyone provide housing links in HKG??

thx

[firewings]

Hello folks,

I am new to this forum, and i am interested in the CX Cadet pilot program.
Can any one please relist (if it has been done before) how does the complete process go about and how does one prepare for the interview(s)

Thanks

Happy Landings and Blue Skies

[Em773ER]

firewings

wowpeter.com » Blog Archive » Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Program! [Updated with International Applicant Timeline / Info] <<< that link has pretty much most of the info you need.

there is 135 pages worth of info on this forum. the earlier pages describe the interview process, and the latter describe what life would be like in HK with the T&Cs CX are offering (which I recommend you read through before accepting the offer, should you make it that far). Do a lot of research!!

[Jay_solo]

Interview notification

When they call you for the first interview stage, do the notify you via email or via telephone call?

[orangeboy]

Jay, normally they will email you.


firewings, there are 4 stages you have pass.

Stages 1-3 consists of:
- technical and HR interviews
- personality tests
- hand eye coordination tests
- reasoning tests
- job knowledge test
- group assessment
- maths test
- english test
- medical

Stage 4 is flight grading in adelaide.

As for tips on studying
- read this entire thread! There is alot of useful info about all stages of the selection process. You will have to weed through alot of jibberish aswell, but well worth the effort.
- study up on HK, Cathay and yourself
- read as much as you can about flying and aviation in general
- get flying if you aren't already do so!

Goodluck.

[carpet weaver]

Can anyone tell me how the medical goes?

[crwjerk]

Mine went very well, thanks.

[Stallone]

Originally Posted by crwjerk

Mine went very well, thanks.

[Burger81]

Advanced Cadet Program

Hi all,

I have read a lot of info and peoples views on the Cadet program here for the ab initio. Does anyone have useful information or views on the advanced cadet program that CX are currently offering?

thanks

Burger81

[Em773ER]

Burger81. Advanced Entry Programme – a 30-week programme for applicants who possess an ICAO CPL and have in excess of 250 hours flight time in specified categories.

views?.. well someone who has been able to self fund to those qualifications should not sell their soul, rather try to find a job in GA or instructing (provided they can get instructor rating). This cadetship is really best suited for ab-initio kids. IHMO CX could really get the "number of desired applicants" they want if they were to offer the proper T&Cs for each course. E.g. ...: the ab-initio entry cadets only get the 10k/mnth housing (because cx paid for their training), advanced course entry cadets get 15/mnth housing (since cx didnt pay for their cpl), transition course entry cadets get 20k/mnth housing (since cx are only providing transition training). any thoughts on something like that happening?

and just a quick question:

or applicants with an ICAO ATPL or CPL with passes in all ATPL subjects and have in excess of 1500 hours total flight time.

can anyone explain to me how it is possible to have passes in all ATPL subjects and have 1500 but not have a full ATPL? correct me if i'm wrong but don't pilots get given their full ATPLs when they have the 1500 hours after completing their ATPL exams?... or is it just CASA that do this?

Cheers!

[flyinryan76]

The FAA doesn't give you your ATPL after passing the written exam. In other words, there is a seperate flight test that you must pass! Thus, it is possible to have passes in ATPL written exams, have 1500 hours, but no ATPL.

Hope that helps!

[diarmuid8]

Also, the 1500 have to be made with certain requirements, for example, if you have 2000hrs on a ME piston with passes in all ATPL subjects you're not eligible for a full ATPL because you have not met the specific hours requirements outlined in the link below.http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/175/srg_lt...ection%20G.pdf

[n.dave]

Em777ER,

1500hrs ATPL.
I think you need the critical 500hrs of multi-crew time to 'unfrozen' ATPL

[Em773ER]

so does this mean that ab-initio cadet entry pilots will not have a proper ICAO ATPL until they are captains (PIC hours)?, they would have pretty much all the requirements except PIC, correct me if i'm wrong.

[crwjerk]

Your frozen ATPL will thaw out when you have attained 500 hours of Multi Crew time. After about one year of F/O flying. You submit all your logbooks, forms and test results to the "department" and you have an ATPL a week or so later.