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Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

Old 15th Jul 2010, 05:48
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I don't know of any book that has loads of math exercises specifically tailored for aviation situations, though I have a book at home called Mental Math for Pilots by Ron McElroy. The title is self-explanatory, and it does give a good indication of what types of mental calculations are used by pilots on a regular basis. There aren't a lot of exercises inside but you can always create your own exercises after you've finished the ones in the book.

About the Kunming question... I will never know if they would have let me use the board or not. You can always ask them when the time comes, but be prepared if they say no. Though as some others have suggested, most interviewers are quite reasonable so it should be okay.
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Old 15th Jul 2010, 06:22
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Thanks for the help... When are you going to have the 2nd interview? Another thing is that my invitation is from 0845 to 1700 that is almost 8 hours!!! But i followed some of the post for people having the initial outside hkg they were only 6 hours.... What other extra things do they evaluate you beside the:

Job knowledge test 45min
Reasoning test 45min
Wombat test
personality assesment 30 min

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Old 15th Jul 2010, 06:53
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But i followed some of the post for people having the initial outside hkg they were only 6 hours.... What other extra things do they evaluate you
Not exactly sure.

My Stage 1 itinerary was for 3 hours, with only a JK Test and interview scheduled, each lasting 45 minutes. In reality it took longer than that, it took something around 3 hours from start to finish, with the extra 90 minutes ending up merely as a buffer. I'm guessing it will be the same in your case.
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Old 15th Jul 2010, 12:48
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CX888 you'll probably have an English reasoning test to do as well and possibly a short interview. I'm just speculating. I just had my interview in London in this week. My total time there was about 5 1/4 hours comprising of:

General and technical Interview 45mins
Harrison personality test 30mins
Wombat test 90mins
Lunch break 45mins
JKI test 45mins
Reasoning test 45mins (after about 15mins of this you'll
start to go cross eyed!)

If you finish your tests early you can leave earlier too if you wish.



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Just a general thought with the use of the white board (had no need to use this during my stage 1), if the interviewer asks anything long winded, I'm sure they'd appreciate a candidates' initiative to ask if they can scribble info down on paper (in which case bring a small note book and pen with you) or the white board etc. This can only give you kudos. They can only say no.

If you don't ask you don't get. Plus it show's potential leadership qualities. Just my 2 cents worth. Good luck to everyone with interviews coming up.
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Old 15th Jul 2010, 16:12
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How long did it take from submitting your application online to getting a response?
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@holdmetight
That was a good answer bro.. true enough we dont know alot coz we have never flown a 777... btw i had around 70 hours on the piper-28 and they asked me alot about it.... They are bound to ask you questions on the acft u fly....
I called the lady next day and she told me that u can only apply after 10 months, and then it depends on your performance in round 2. if it was too bad u will have to attend the round 1 again.

@aztec2008
The maths has no calculus and stuff.. It is all about how fast you can interpret the graphs and tables to get the answer from it.. it is something like the KENT UNIVERSITY numerical test, but harder and with difficult english .. The reason why i mentioned hard was coz, if you go for the test without practicing u wont do gud at all.....
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Old 15th Jul 2010, 17:05
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Guys!

Any Idea when are the interviews held in India?

And How Long does it take for the Golden reply to come?

Please help!!!!!!!!!!!!
I applied a month back, but still no reply
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Old 15th Jul 2010, 17:11
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does anybody knows when assessments are planned in europe?
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Old 15th Jul 2010, 18:52
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In your opinion what part of the process of the initial was the most difficult for u? and can u tell me some of the hardest question during the interview?

Thanks
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Old 16th Jul 2010, 13:13
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CX Cadet Help

@Swine Facipic

Hi mate how r u ? just wanted to ask if my email was recieved i am preparing for my assessments early before i get a call and wanted to ask if u could send me information about the assessment stages as well as the booklet for the test and interview info ... i would really appreciate it brov

my email is [email protected] or u can also email me at [email protected]

kindest regards

waiting for ur response
cheers

Aqeel :-)
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Old 16th Jul 2010, 13:18
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@dronehawk: cathay will handle all connections from joburg and hotel booking in HKG as well for stages 2/3 and 4. You will need to go to Joburg 3 times (stage 1, Stage 2/3 and Stage 4) on your own budget. Its expensive but worth the try. Total cost on me wouldnt pay 1/3 of PPL training cost in Kenya! Key thing is preperation to make the trip worth the effort.

Have a look at APST IPAS as an example of what to expect in such tests and prepare well. Take a shot at it
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Old 17th Jul 2010, 15:45
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Guys, when it comes to the interview, just don't B.S. If you like the 777, tell the honestly and why. If you don't like any of CX aircrafts at all, tell them honestly as well. Not that you should be there in the first place.

About the TOD question. You shouldn't need a whiteboard to explain the answer. The normal TOD point for a jet is 3 times altitude about ground plus whatever miles you need for configure. If you use speedbrakes, you can use the rule of thumb, 2 times altitude plus whatever miles needed for configuration. Remember, you should be able to do this in you head. If you are flying a jet now and ATC ask you how many miles do you need, are you seriously going to pull out a whiteboard? keep everything as simple as possible
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Old 17th Jul 2010, 20:23
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If you are flying a jet now and ATC ask you how many miles do you need, are you seriously going to pull out a whiteboard? keep everything as simple as possible

RR, going back to my previous post about using the whiteboard. If ATC gives you a command like that and you're not ready you can request "Standby" that is perfectly acceptable in commercial flying, and quickly get back to them once you've got the answer. If candidates feel comfortable asking to use the whiteboard then let them, it can't hurt. You're here to get an airline job, why do you think you operate as 2 crew? To help assist each other especially during high stress portions of the mission. Like I said before it shows initiative and this works in all forms of employment not just airline interviews. All they can say is no!

I think this issue of the whole whiteboard thing is now blown out of proportion!
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Old 17th Jul 2010, 21:03
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no you wont have a white board to pull out in the cockpit but you do have little bits of paper and a pen.
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Old 17th Jul 2010, 21:29
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Stage 2-3 Questions

Where did the TOD question even come from lol?
I read back in the forum and I couldnt find the questions. I would appreciate any tips for 2/3 specific questions asked people is really helpful.
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Old 18th Jul 2010, 03:04
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Totally agree with Dakotablue
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Old 18th Jul 2010, 06:42
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Me too I agree with DAkota... and I've never flown jet like other people in the forum...

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Old 18th Jul 2010, 10:02
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I'm quite amazed that few people are worried about a very simple question, the TOD...
personnally I'm more worried about the numerical test or any other harder exercise like that lol !
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Old 18th Jul 2010, 11:19
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Math questions can come in all shapes and sizes, so don't focus on only practicing TOD-related questions. The best way to prepare for such exercises is to get your brain into gear, keep mentally active and anticipate that questions requiring mathematical computing can come in ANY interview. Others have also mentioned using whatever resources available to come to a correct solution, that is a good idea as well.

Good luck everyone!
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Old 18th Jul 2010, 14:02
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For simple question like that, you shouldn't even need a piece of paper to figure out the answer. It is definitely alright to say 'standby' in the commercial flying world. If you need, you can even request a holding pattern to figure out the answer. =) What ever you need to do to do what's need to be done. I've never seen anyone doing that in real life though. What i wanted to say is, when you are flying, try to come up with a simple system that you can work with so you don't need to pull out a piece of paper everytime.

For the numerical test, no body can answer all the question. If you can, you are a genius in math.
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