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Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

Old 1st May 2014, 03:01
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In that case I will make a point as well. I just graduated high school last year at 18, and now I'm waiting on my medical for flight grading. That's how I know they will be harder on you. Just because I made it past the interviews, however, doesn't mean it was necessarily the right choice. Yes, it worked out in the end and I passed, but like The Architect said, it was a gamble. I gave up studying at UCSB for the interviews, but what if I didn't pass? I would have wasted a year. Indeed now I am close to wasting a year because of my medical hold up but lets not talk about that... My point is if you want to apply right out of high school, by all means go for it, but understand your chances will be much slimmer, and don't give up your university for it unless you're 110% sure you will pass. ALL the other 18-19 yr olds in my interview stages failed.
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Old 1st May 2014, 03:12
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DrakeSkyle

I do agree with that point generally the younger people tend to fail stage 1. However as I have said previously if you have a PPL with atlest 75 hours on it or a CPL the chances are higher.however university is a personal preference and some people aren't accademic enough to go to a uni. For an 18-19 year old with no experience its a shot in the dark for someone who has exper then it is like finding a pot of gold.
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Old 1st May 2014, 04:07
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The I guess it's all on how much experience you have. However from my experience, not having too much is a good thing, because if you have a lot of experience they will ask you really difficult questions. I have 25 hours only but I did a huge amount of self study, so even though they asked me basic questions, I was able to elaborate in-depth. I think the best amount if experience is just enough to demonstrate your commitment and passion, but not too much to the point of having crazy questions thrown at you.
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Old 2nd May 2014, 04:23
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Application

Hi everyone, is it too late to submit an application for now?
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Old 2nd May 2014, 09:06
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You can apply whenever you are ready. The application period is open all year.
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Old 2nd May 2014, 21:57
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TT to restart.

Transition Training (>1500 hours) is to restart in the near future.

Due to insurmountable problems qualifying zero time cadets to the line, CX has applied for visas for foreign, QUALIFIED second officer candidates.
If you're successful, the TT course (basically a HKG ATPL conversion) will run about 3 months in Adelaide and on successful conclusion, you'll be offered a S/O position in CX.

You will join the bottom of the seniority list.

Your salary will be the same as a zero time cadet.

You will be promoted in seniority, if found suitable for promotion.

Average time to JF/O upgrade is about 4 years.

You will be indentured (bonded) for 6 years for your training costs, currently about USD150,000. The bond will be pro rated and amortize with time served.

Details will be made available on the CX website in due course.

For those who don't follow the "Fragrant Harbor" forum (you should), CX is about to close it's Manchester base, making about 80 officers (captains and FOs) redundant. These are pilots, just like you, who joined CX about 6 years ago - in good faith - on DEFO and DEC contracts to fly the 744F out of MAN. WEF 1 June, they will be unemployed.

"Hong Kong's caring employer" indeed.
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Old 3rd May 2014, 01:09
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Failed 1A I think in the second part. I will buy a joystick to practice my hand and try again 6 months later. Pedal is too expensive even for a secondhand cannot afford it. Does the faa online ebook useful? It is because that BAK is also too expensive for me. Lastly, I want to ask if there are any software to practice my hand eye coordination with joystick please? This is my dream. I won't give up
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Old 3rd May 2014, 06:56
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Maybe you should rethink what is it exactly that made you fail... don't come to a conclusion too soon.

Video games in general will do the trick, but this one combines FLYING + AIMING and I think it will help. Its for free, just make sure you have 10 GB of hard drive space.

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Captain Underpants,

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Tell me more about the Manchester Base closing. Why sack them? Why can't they keep flying to other destinations?
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Old 3rd May 2014, 08:36
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I'm wondering if anyone will actually take the TT deal. If you're already at 1500 hours, might as well continue on your way, why accept an SO position and get paid the same as a 0 hr guy while at the bottom of the seniority list? Honestly I think CX should be resuming the AE programme instead, TT just doesn't make sense.
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Old 3rd May 2014, 09:14
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Drake

These sound like the expats a few hundred pages back who blindly accepted the offer, and are now butthurt because of… nearly every aspect of the job. They can be found all over "Fragrant Harbor". (what a nice name)
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Old 3rd May 2014, 09:38
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Architect

It's a contractual thing. They were hired as DEC and DEFO onto the base pursuant to there being vacancies on the base.

Some, not all, will be accommodated on other bases (if vacancies exist), or offered HKG positions ON LOCAL TERMS. If neither is acceptable, then they will be terminated.

All of this, I might add, just 3 days AFTER bids for LHR closed. Nice.
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Old 3rd May 2014, 09:59
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What does this mean for the AE?
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Old 3rd May 2014, 11:21
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I will also work on other parts of the compass test too but I can prepare other part by practicing maths and digging my physics book. At least I know what kinds of them are involved
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Old 3rd May 2014, 14:01
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Can I join your group?
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Old 3rd May 2014, 14:32
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Too many people have this problem

Rh: Its nice to hear that, patch up your English while you are at it.

Captain Panties: How many pilots are given a "chance" regardless of criteria? Are they just fishing for resignations?
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Old 3rd May 2014, 14:52
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Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

DrakeSkyle

I totally agree with you

Cpt. Underpants

That is so mean. Just so mean of CX to do that after the LHR bid closure. Good luck to those based in MAN.

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Old 4th May 2014, 04:07
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JKI Booklet

Hi I am new to this forum. I will be attending first interview with CX over the next couple of months (awaiting for a suitable date) and wonder if anyone has the JKI Booklet they can send to me via email so I can start studying it immediately?
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Old 4th May 2014, 07:29
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Honestly I think CX should be resuming the AE programme instead, TT just doesn't make sense.
The answer is simple it takes 5 weeks to get TT guys while it'll take 32 weeks to get an AE guy/girl.
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Old 4th May 2014, 09:55
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I'm talking about from the applicant's perspective, who would take the deal apart from someone hell-bent on joining CX?
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Old 4th May 2014, 12:04
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People who are here for brand and recognition before doing their research, only to find the actual package a different story.
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