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Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

Old 6th Apr 2014, 13:00
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Pardon me, I have given wrong information

I gave wrong information regarding this previous post...

I believe the information you are looking for can be found on Cathay's Cadet Recruitment page, but just in case I was wrong, I have read that the threshold to be somewhere around ten hours.

However, if you are someone anywhere near or beyond ten hours of operation on a small aircraft, the flight grading (which is targeted at people whom have never touched a column) should be a walk in the park for you.

Nothing to worry about here
Correction: The line is set at thirty hours, not ten. Sorry about that.

Applicants below thirty hours will have four trials during flight grading to be taught everything from taxing to stall recovery, which they must demonstrate capable of performing. Radio work and communication will be covered by the instructor. Not very sure about landing....

Flight grading will be done on a Grob 115A (subject to change) I am not sure what happens to people with more than thirty hours.

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Old 6th Apr 2014, 14:20
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Hi wama123,

Thanks, yes I am a HKPID card holder, from what I've seen so far I should be OK. I've skimmed through the aero portion of the Ace the technical pilot interview and have a pretty good understanding of it from my 'day job', but I am not familiar with most of the content in the other chapters so it will take me some time to go through them all.
Have talked to a few pilot friends but they are with other airlines in Europe and the US. I have half a dozen friends/customers who are Cathay pilots but I haven't spoken to them about this yet as I am not as familiar to them as the others, but I guess that is the best resource I have right now.

Are you still with Cathay?
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 18:11
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Hi Architect, thank you so much for your information, really appreciate it.

Would you mind if I ask where you got the info from?

This is according to a previous post. Basic grading according to your info seems like a harder exercise than the 'intermediate' below as it as less trial flights??

Basic Grading (G115 GROB)

1.) Effects of Control
2.) Straight and Level
3.) Climb and Descend + Medium Level Turn
4.) Stall, Steep Turn and Wingover
5.) Upper air circuits
6.) Circuits
7.) Final Assessment

Intermediate Grading

All 7 basic grading flights (G115 Grob) + 3 aerobatics (CAP10)

Advanced Grading

(3 flights using G115 GROB, another 3 flights using IGATE SIM (Kingair B200)

1.) Straight and Level, Climb and Descend, Stall, Medium Level and Steep Turn, Wingover
2.) Same as above + 2 Normal Circuits + 1 Flapless Circuit
3.) Same as 2.) + 1 Practice Force Landing (PFL) + 2 Glide circuits
4.) Basic Instrument Flying + point to point navigations
5.) Basic Instrument Flying + point to point navigations + ILS Landings
6.) Final Assessment
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 20:11
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Hi there will be 1A on 16th, April. I studied hard on the JKI but not sure which parts are the most important. I tried to memorize all 5x pages but I cannot do so in a month. I am start getting nervous. Also, there are many compass tests on the web. I trained my maths and eye-hand coordination but still a noob. I want one take pass. It is my dream and I put all my efforts on it. I want it as perfect as possible. Are there any ways to improve my revision or any things and topics I should pay extra attention on?
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Old 7th Apr 2014, 20:33
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I also searched information online but I afraid they will not be useful
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Old 8th Apr 2014, 00:36
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Rh927

" I tried to memorize all 5x pages but I cannot do so in a month. "

I think you really should've fully prepared yourself for it before applying. Don't leave it until last minute. According to people who have done the assessment, JKI doesn't fully cover all the questions you will be asked; you should do extra research about their company etc etc. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 8th Apr 2014, 01:41
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"I tried to memorize all 5x pages but I cannot do so in a month"


I only had 11 days when I had my first attempt..
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Old 8th Apr 2014, 02:06
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yea. I think 5x pages for a month is more than sufficient. Normally u could finish and understand 5x pages in a week or a week and a half.
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Old 8th Apr 2014, 07:40
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Poynting

This is a direct copy from DCTs booklet. You remarks about having seven flights was acknowledged.

"The flight grading system now divides into Basic and Advanced grading group. Basic grading group should have less than 30 hours of flying experience. You can rougly describe Advanced group is for PPL holders and above. FTA uses the Grob (G115) for flight grading primarily. If there is over demand for G115, the Tobago (TB10) is often selected as an alternative. The King Air simulator will be used for advanced flight grading.

Basic grading group is required to do 4 flights nowadays. (It used to be 7) The instructor will take care of the take-off, landing, and radio calls. In these 4 flights, the instructor will demonstrate taxiing, turns, climb, descend, stall, wingover, high level circuit, etc. in the training area northwest of Parafield Airport. You will be handed the opportunity to perform the exact manoeuvre after the demonstrations. Do not expect it to come out perfect if it is you first attempt in an aircraft. As long as you show gradual improvement in each trial, and satisfy what they want to see on you. Once again, if you do not perform as well as your expectation, just carry on with the next instruction and manoeuvre."


I beg your forgiveness about mentioning of the fifth flight...it doesn't even exist

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Old 8th Apr 2014, 10:07
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To those who have had look at the DCT "useful tools.........", do you guy notice that the technical questions they got inside are a bit different?
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Old 8th Apr 2014, 10:45
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I did wiki the company. I think I generally understand the booklet but afraid of missing some important things or searched useless information in MC. If it is essay, you can write what you searched. But MC once you searched different things, it would be useless.
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Old 8th Apr 2014, 11:16
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May I ask a silly question?

Is it important to remember all the numbers in the 1st 1A test? Or concepts are more important?
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Old 8th Apr 2014, 13:56
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dolpinsky DCT's Booklet?

So far, of the few reading materials I have come across... they all taught similarly, but I just started studying two months ago and have yet to buy more books, so I cannot tell you how "different" the booklet is from what others are reading. But skimming though it seems to have answered a lot of technical questions that surfaced in this thread the past seven years.

I have no idea how well the book will serve me in the long run. Neither have I any idea of how diverse the technical questions will get in the actual interview.

It will serve well as a starting point of what to study and further investigate, but it should definitely not be the only reference material you use if you want to ace stage 2.
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Old 8th Apr 2014, 13:57
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Concepts are always more important. Try to understand them instead of blindly memorizing everything they give you. Good luck for 1A!
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Old 9th Apr 2014, 01:31
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Totally agree!
Thx bro!
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Old 10th Apr 2014, 06:57
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Another question:

Which physics formulas will be tested in the compass test usually?

F=ma
d=vt+0.5at(square)

any formulas left?
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Old 10th Apr 2014, 09:36
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Yes, you missed a very important one. But I want you to figure out which one yourself…





and here you go ^2 ノ( _ ノ) Don't need this anymore (╯□)╯︵(ǝɹɐnbs)

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Old 11th Apr 2014, 19:57
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When's your 1A? I've got mine in two weeks
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Old 13th Apr 2014, 08:41
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From the CX website, CPP is 55 week long and we will gain CPL after the completion of CPP.
But I have a book written by cx pilots a few years ago. it said it is 60 week long, and we should gain both CPL & ATPL.
i guess there is a change in the programme. But CPL is really the only license we will gain?
thanks mates

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Old 13th Apr 2014, 13:16
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Yep, I was looking for the answer to the same questions a few weeks ago. I used the search button in the same thread (unreliable source)

upon completion of the program, you will have:

a HKCAD issued CPL
~150 hours of flight time
~50 hours of simulation
MECIR
a frozen ATPL that will be thawed upon 1,500 hours of flight

Please correct me if anything is missing / wrong!
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