Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Wannabes Forums > South Asia and Far East Wannabes
Reload this Page >

Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

South Asia and Far East Wannabes A forum for those applying to Cathay Pacific, Dragonair or any other Hong Kong-based airline or operator. Use this area for both Direct Entry Pilot and Cadet-scheme queries.

Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

Old 31st Oct 2013, 08:07
  #5301 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: up here, everyone looks like ants!
Posts: 956
Are you suggesting that the number of SO's Cathay has at the moment won't be sufficient to crew flights in the near future? If that is the case then will CX again take expats or just lower the standard to get more through the door?
That's an excellent question. I know what I would prefer to see, but I can just about guarantee that whatever option CX chooses when the crunch hits (and it will)...will be the option that invokes the least cost.

There's only one thing that drives them (we read it almost daily in updates, staff letters and press releases).

Money.
Cpt. Underpants is offline  
Old 2nd Nov 2013, 05:33
  #5302 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 58
Advanced Entry.

I take this to mean that the people you are referring to as having no less than 1000 hours were Adavnced Entry types. Was that the case? How about multi time in 2000 Kg or higher? Glass? The other factor concerning experience levels is FAR part 135 or 121, or similar according to each countries standard.

Was the standard higher than stated Advanced Entry standards? I mean other than total flight hours.
japandwell is offline  
Old 2nd Nov 2013, 11:21
  #5303 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Vietnam
Posts: 1,246
Japandwell,

The ones with me had experience on Dash8, Cheiftan and a few more. Some had done part 135 ops and some not. Two had been instructors and all were over 25 years old bar one. Yes we were all AE as none of us had an ATP licence yet.

I don't really think they care what you flew before, just if you will fit in and be able to cope with the training.

Is that what you mean?
pilotchute is offline  
Old 4th Nov 2013, 23:29
  #5304 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 58
Pilotchute, You did answer my question. I have more than the stated minimums and thought your post implied that people are accepted with higher qualifications than the minimum for each program. The fact that I have nearly ATP minimums but no time in AC over 2,000 Kg. puts me in a place between AE and TT.
It is good to know that people with higher than stated minimums for the AE may still be accepted for the program.
japandwell is offline  
Old 5th Nov 2013, 10:25
  #5305 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: up here, everyone looks like ants!
Posts: 956
If you don't have a HONG KONG PERMANENT ID CARD, no amount of experience will get you in the door for the foreseeable future (on ANY program - ab initio, AE or TT). Clear enough?

Last edited by Cpt. Underpants; 6th Nov 2013 at 01:38. Reason: content
Cpt. Underpants is offline  
Old 5th Nov 2013, 15:16
  #5306 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 342
HKPID

Hey mods put this up as a stickie it will save lots of bandwidth.
CodyBlade is offline  
Old 6th Nov 2013, 01:29
  #5307 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 58
No more AE?

I am reading between the lines on your response. I take it there are no more AE classes or even TT courses planned.

I have been gathering this throughout the forums. There is some information that contradicts that theory though. There was a post saying that the ab initio courses are taking too long, and that may be used as an excuse to start AE courses again. AE pilots don't require HKID, correct?

Anyway, I am still tossing this around. I'll be leaving my employer in a few months on a type of "early out program", and will get back to instructing full time. There are a few ab initio programs here in the US that hire FAA Instructors, and offer full time salaries. I'm glad I came back to the US!
japandwell is offline  
Old 6th Nov 2013, 13:37
  #5308 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Brisbane
Age: 31
Posts: 13
If AE and TT does reopen, will preference be given to non-permanent HKID holders on those courses? Or were previous courses and the current pool of people waiting for start dates a mix of everyone?
Bathurstwalla is offline  
Old 6th Nov 2013, 16:35
  #5309 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: N/A
Posts: 279
Why would preference be given to NON ID holders?

Hope this helps:

If you don't have a HONG KONG PERMANENT ID CARD, no amount of experience will get you in the door for the foreseeable future (on ANY program - ab initio, AE or TT). Clear enough?


Thanks to Capt. Underpants, made my copy pasting easy.

Just one more time:

If you don't have a HONG KONG PERMANENT ID CARD, no amount of experience will get you in the door for the foreseeable future (on ANY program - ab initio, AE or TT). Clear enough?
schweizer2 is offline  
Old 6th Nov 2013, 16:55
  #5310 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Brisbane
Age: 31
Posts: 13
Oops should have been more clear, I meant the non-permanent version of the HKID.

As in if you are living in Hong Kong already with a HKID, but just not a HKPID.
Bathurstwalla is offline  
Old 7th Nov 2013, 00:05
  #5311 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Oz
Posts: 131
Priority is only for permanent hkid holders. This is what i got told.
orangeboy is offline  
Old 7th Nov 2013, 01:07
  #5312 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 342
Good grief! little boys, get yourself organised and avail yourself of the RELEVANT INFORMATION.
CodyBlade is offline  
Old 7th Nov 2013, 02:23
  #5313 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: No Fixed Address
Posts: 36
HKID Beaten to Death

It's quite simple really. Hope this clears it up for you all.

http://www.immd.gov.hk/pdforms/rop133.pdf
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) | Immigration Department
GovHK: Identity Cards and Right of Abode

On the 2 letter code beneath your date of birth, the first letter, if it is anything but 'A' or 'R', you do not have the right to live, work, or study in Hong Kong without a valid visa.

To be legally employed in HK, and as far as the Immigration Dept. is concerned, 'A' (Right of Abode) and 'R' (Right to Land) are virtually identical. The only difference being, persons holding a 'R' code are not eligible to vote and can be deported if convicted of a serious crime.

Most expat folks first coming to HK on the CX ticket are all given a 'C' code on their HKIDs. Which means 'Conditional Stay' and if they lose employment with CX, they have a specific time limit to gather all their stuff and leave or else be considered staying illegally subject to immediate deportation.

Cheers.
J
jumpseatCAPT is offline  
Old 7th Nov 2013, 14:34
  #5314 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 342
Good try mate, but trust me more Qs will be asked.

e.g, "Hello I am new here,is the Ab initio opened only to non-HKPID?:"
CodyBlade is offline  
Old 7th Nov 2013, 14:59
  #5315 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Brisbane
Age: 31
Posts: 13
Thanks jumpseatCAPT you at least gave a non-standard PPRuNe response. I can get the C card in which holder’s stay in the HKSAR is limited by the Director of Immigration.
I am coming to HK in January on a visa joining some ex-pat friends and have a teaching job lined up.

My question again was, in the last intake of AE and TT people, was there many HKID holders amongst them? Would having a HKID of any description be an advantage if AE and TT opens up again to international candidates? I already know the current stoppage is due to the immigration department etc etc.

This is info I can only get on this rumours website from people in the know.
Bathurstwalla is offline  
Old 8th Nov 2013, 00:24
  #5316 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: No Fixed Address
Posts: 36
Bathurstwalla

From what I gather, people with the right prerequisites for AE and TT are ~90% from overseas, not holding a HKID card. Vast majority of HKID holders do not have the means or need to meet the AE or TT requirements since they can easily take the AB course if they make it past assessments.

So holding a HKID card would not be an advantage for AE and TT unless you're planning on applying for the AB stream. Especially if you only hold a 'C' code on your HKID, by which case, you will be treated the same as a non-HKID expat candidate - and only AE and TT will be available.

Hope this clears up your questions mate.

Cheers.
J
jumpseatCAPT is offline  
Old 8th Nov 2013, 12:36
  #5317 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 342
How to issue a employment Visa to non-skilled workers?

Every country will has built in protection for born and bred citizens and hence voters.

Including yours.
CodyBlade is offline  
Old 10th Nov 2013, 14:40
  #5318 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Malaysia
Posts: 10
Calling all applicants going for initial a on 18 november

Hi all, I would say I'm like most or rather all of the other new comers in this thread, so I will skip all the drama.

I have read sufficient pages on this thread to grasps whats there to expect for the first few stages prior to interview.

So I am calling out to the applicants who are going to be attending the same Initial A on 18 November, perhaps we could gather earlier and discuss. I am definitely open to making new friends through this opportunity, and possibly helping each other.

PilotForLife8888 is offline  
Old 13th Nov 2013, 01:11
  #5319 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Cliffs
Posts: 143
Stage 2 on 25th Nov, anyone? If so, pm me. I have a few in the group already.
flyer_spotter is offline  
Old 14th Nov 2013, 11:19
  #5320 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 1
final interview

Hey,

i see you are going for the final interview in HK.
Is it for the Cadet entry or the Advanced entry? I've been waiting myself
for ages for an invite for the final stage.

grtz,

Loek
airborneloek is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.