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Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

Old 2nd Sep 2012, 05:48
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Join Date: Mar 2011
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I don't think I'm in the loop better than other CX pilots, just that I know the process of interview as I went through it, know what both contracts are worth and also know what else is out there. I did my research into it all exceptionally thoroughly as anyone should when determining their career path. (Which is unlike all too many on this thread).

As has been said, if everyone walked away from the iCadetship CX would be forced to increase the pay. Supply and demand. As it stands the AOA states that CX are desperately short of qualified applicants and is already suffering. The 777 CP has offered / asked the 777 pilots to "do deals" with rostering to keep things afloat.... The AOA attributes CX's present crewing issues directly at C-Scale.

Even if CX offered me A-Scale I would not re-apply. I'm (not much) over 30 and the dream of most pilots is to hold a (widebody) Command. Due the seniority system that I respect and where it would place me I would be lucky to achieve my goal, and if so for not too long before retirement. CX does not satisfy that career goal for me. Plus, with CX's long history of failing to honour black and white contracts I know I could not trust them with my career as they are constantly looking at ways to cut & slash pilots T's & C's. One's past behaviour is the greatest indicator of one's future behaviour.

Will the present flock of iCadets jump ship when after their 6 year bond? Most can't even if they wanted to. They will have to build ICAO recognised hours starting from where they left Adelaide as all hours under the P2X are useless outside of the CX umbrella. So, as per my previous posts they are bound to CX for at least another 2 to even 4 years after the bonded period to build hours to go somewhere else. And then what? Join the bottom of another airline's seniority list? Not to mention he's competing for jobs against other pilots the same age with double to triple the amount of ICAO recognised hours.

So you see, look long term and appreciate the big picture.

Last edited by ChinaBeached; 3rd Sep 2012 at 07:27.
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 15:40
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Dear all,
Sorry to raise an out-of-track question, who is going to have the CX stage 2 interview on the 24th of Sept, 2012?
I would like to see if I could meet up with the candidates who will have the interview on that day for a practice session, especially on flight plan and group exercise.
Thanks a lot!
Andy
PM me or email me at [email protected] if you are interested. Thanks!
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Old 4th Sep 2012, 07:18
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Hey everyone. I can see there are a lot of people attending the interview in Sept so I wonder when did you guys submit the application? I did it in May and didn't hear anything from CX yet.
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Old 4th Sep 2012, 08:18
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Dont get your hopes up yet shae.
I have applied since 2011 november and havent heard anything yet.
In oz btw
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Old 4th Sep 2012, 08:26
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Shae and Sonsama:

If you don't have HKID and you are applying for ab-initio, then the chance of getting invited is slim.

Shae, If you have HKID, expect to wait for 1 - 2 more months. I applied in early 2012 and got invited for the first stage in late May.
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Old 5th Sep 2012, 04:11
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Transition Interview 20-21 Sept

Howdy,

PM me if you are a Transition Training applicant going for interview on 20-21 this month!

LF
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Old 5th Sep 2012, 05:09
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have my application handed in in late april, got invitation in late sept, having my initial A on 12th this month, anyone doing the initial the same day?
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Old 5th Sep 2012, 10:50
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So you fly for CX, then? You've yet to master the basics of grammar, yet we're expected to trust you at the controls of a jet airliner? If you are at all representative of the quality of cadet that CX is taking on, then you are unwittingly validating CB's argument.


@CB - how many years have you been haunting this thread now?!


@ any other hopefuls - by all means take advantage of this magnificent opportunity that Cathay is offering you - airline interview practice. This experience will be invaluable later on when applying for a real job!


[edit]Did a whole bunch of posts get deleted? Because this post looks a little out of place now[/edit]

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Old 5th Sep 2012, 11:29
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From experience, maybe 500 loggable hours per year as F/O, so 5 years after you upgrade, that's about, 9 or 10 years from now. You can move on with less though I'm sure.
 
Old 5th Sep 2012, 17:00
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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XLAN,
Thanks for your answer! Yes I do have a HK ID card and live in HK right now. Have you proceeded to 2nd stage yet?
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Old 7th Sep 2012, 07:17
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Yeah - it seems like all of this kid's posts have all gone, even his latest speil on advising us all on circling approaches again.

What a way to make so many enemies so quickly, so willingly and so proudly.

I saw his latest post here prior to it being deleted and decided to take the advice of a guy with more experience with CX and probably airline time (STP) and hence not bite back. Am proud to say his advice was spot on.

I reckon I could also take the advice of others more junior to me as well, like hihi . Cheers mate..... I hope all is working out OK since the last PM's a while ago.
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Old 7th Sep 2012, 09:10
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Join Date: Aug 2012
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Hi All

I attended the 1st Stage Interview in Johannesburg, South Africa the beginning of this month.

So now i'm waiting to hear any feedback
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Old 8th Sep 2012, 04:28
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Transition Training Sim Assessment

Has anyone done the sim assessment recently?

Back when my friends did it, the profile was the old DESO profile, ie the usual stuff with an engine failure scenario at the end.

In my interview brief the notes about the sim assessment are different to those my friends got before. There is no word about engine failures, or asymmetric handling as there is in the old version.

More worryingly, there is also no mention of a practice session before the assessment.

Anyone done this in the last few months? Help!
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Old 8th Sep 2012, 10:15
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The DESO profile never included an engine failure or a practice session...

The only difference is that you make about half the money compared to a DESO...but you now need a lot less than half the experience...

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Old 10th Sep 2012, 12:58
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Anybody having their ab-initio flight grading in mid-Oct?
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Old 11th Sep 2012, 08:38
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Would also Like to hear from anyone that has information on the Transition Sim Check for stage 2...

And CB, seriously mate, you need to let this go, your just painting a picture of yourself as a very cranky, angry & sour individual. We've all heard your piece a thousand times & appreciate your thoughts, But its time to let this one go...
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Old 11th Sep 2012, 10:26
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Largely cut and pasted from the other thread due the dual bitch slap....

I had left it alone you ignorant brat. Then you cheap shot from behind. You ask for information but only want one side of the story. Someone asked if there was an engine failure for the DESO sim, and there was. I gave 95% of the profile for you. It was the last comment which was not appreciated, obviously. Raw nerves....?? Mental pigmies like you choose to keep a war going when I was content to leave it alone.

You've been asking for stage 2 tips since Nov '11 for some supposed stage 2 interview in Jan '12. Still confused? More deluded but it's got to be expected when you're just so goddam childish.

Leave it alone kid and I will. You want information? I suppose you'll blame me for passing this along as well...??

http://www.pprune.org/fragrant-harbo...g-joining.html

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Old 11th Sep 2012, 20:28
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Johnson717

Mine is on the 14th. Is your initial interview consist of A and B. A being the 45 min multiple choice and 90 min compass aptitude test? Best of luck!
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Old 14th Sep 2012, 06:59
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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I may be being a bit paranoid, but I'm just wondering how long does it take for cathay to call back after initial 1A if i pass it?
I have done it on wednesday and waiting for their callback, tho the email clearly said they will call me and arrange a date for 1B within 2 weeks if I pass it.
Anyone can share their experience on this?
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Old 15th Sep 2012, 16:20
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Regarding the detail of the compass aptitude test, do u all have any ideas about the content of it?? Just not sure what it is about ...
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