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Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

Old 12th Jul 2012, 14:29
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Cx and Hkid

Why would Cathay really bother to invite a candidate to stage 2/3 in Hong Kong knowing very well they will not finally take you due to the current immigration issues involving non hkid holders for ab initio? Mind you, somebody has to buy a ticket to transit to a nearest port CX flies to, paying highly for it, in order to connect to their flight to HK. Talk of "escorting others to do the actual interview".
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Old 12th Jul 2012, 16:49
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Flight Grading - Aug 18

Hi,

Is anyone going for Flight Grading August 18 to August 25?

Please PM me.

Thanks!
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Old 13th Jul 2012, 12:51
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I heard the eldest they have admitted for Ab-Initio was 39 and for Advanced Entry it's 43.
I am not sure if they have (or allow to have) an age limit.
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Old 14th Jul 2012, 04:03
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Time to command is long but I think you'll get there within 30 years. So if you are 35, you might not be a captain for long but if you work until you retire you certainly will make command (assuming you pass all the checks).

And no, recruitment won't increase drastically. A lot of orders are for replacement rather than growth.
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Old 17th Jul 2012, 04:17
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So everybody's saying the programmes rubbish , it's a sh*t package,
No, not everyone. A small group of disgruntled CX pilots and a few others with a grudge against Cathay say its rubbish because they fear that if this scheme is successful it will eventually lead to a worse package for them.

They may well be right, and the package isn't that good. Unfortunately its still a lot better than many of the alternatives.
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Old 17th Jul 2012, 05:04
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I have been searching at several aviation forum sites the answer to the following question, but I did not find it:
What is the MAXIMUM age limit to be considered as an applicant for the Cathay second officer program?
There is no age discrimination.
 
Old 17th Jul 2012, 14:38
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There is no age discrimination per se, but companies can say that, "We have other candidates who more closely match our requirements" if your age is an issue, thus they are not being discriminatory.
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Old 20th Jul 2012, 18:56
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Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

Hi there, I have submitted my application on May, but till now haven't got any feedback yet. Is there anyone with the same situation as mind? Just wonder when they will reply.
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Old 21st Jul 2012, 17:01
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Just to clarify, Cathay is no longer hiring or interviewing people who do not have a HK ID, right?
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Old 21st Jul 2012, 18:11
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Correct - regardless of what it says on the website, a HKID card is a requirement for the Ab Initio program, at this moment in time.

However, I have started to hear rumors that wannabe's are bypassing this requirement by becoming employees of CX in other positions before applying. Anyone shed light on whether this is true?
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Old 22nd Jul 2012, 01:08
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However, I have started to hear rumors that wannabe's are bypassing this requirement by becoming employees of CX in other positions before applying. Anyone shed light on whether this is true?
I highly doubt it... Training is the reason why an HKID is required. Coming from another department in the same company does not make it any difference. Note that it is not simply an HKID, you need to be a permanent resident; either be born in HK or have lived in HK for 7 years after getting an HKID card
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Old 22nd Jul 2012, 03:06
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Also why would a company like CX go through the trouble of hiring someone in a different department so they can circumnavigate immigration laws. Its not as if an ab-initio cadet has some great skills that CX just can't do without.
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Old 22nd Jul 2012, 05:58
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Clish/Sloppy,

Thats what I was thinking as well.....

don't think CX are trying to get around immigration laws...just a few interested cabin crew are applying from within the company
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Old 22nd Jul 2012, 06:12
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It has been like that for a long time. Cabin crew can and do transfer to the cadet scheme. This is not CX trying to get ab-initio candidates it is just an avenue open to current employees, not just cabin crew. They will not however hire you as cabin crew if your goal is to become a pilot. You also need to be from the country they are interested in recruiting expat cabin crew in, competition for that may be even higher than for the cadet scheme. Recently hired in India, 100s applied most with degrees and only a handful picked.

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Old 22nd Jul 2012, 06:59
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So that leads to the question I originally had in mind....can cabin crew, and for that matter, current employees, without HKID card, be considered for the ab initio program?
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Old 22nd Jul 2012, 10:57
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As previously stated, you need a permanent HKID to be acceptable for the ab-initio scheme. If you get a job with CX and a work permit for HKG you are issued a temporary HKID. If you hold that HKID for 7 years you can exchange it for a permanent HKID. So after 7 years, yes, you would be able to apply for the cadet scheme.
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Old 22nd Jul 2012, 14:54
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sloppyjoe pretty much summed it up

note tho... those who are cabin crews still go through the same process everyone else; they don't just transfer over
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Old 23rd Jul 2012, 04:10
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Syd ab initio testing

Anyone heard back from the recent Syd ab initio testing?
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Old 23rd Jul 2012, 22:23
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no hkid no cadet ?

Correct - regardless of what it says on the website, a HKID card is a requirement for the Ab Initio program, at this moment in time.
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Is this only for ppl who want to apply for the 61 weeks cadet pilot program ?
So if that is true, this wont affect me if i want to apply for the 32 weeks [advanced entry] cadet program right ?

thx !!!
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Old 24th Jul 2012, 03:31
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Yes correct.
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