Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

[SloppyJoe]

It has been like that for a long time. Cabin crew can and do transfer to the cadet scheme. This is not CX trying to get ab-initio candidates it is just an avenue open to current employees, not just cabin crew. They will not however hire you as cabin crew if your goal is to become a pilot. You also need to be from the country they are interested in recruiting expat cabin crew in, competition for that may be even higher than for the cadet scheme. Recently hired in India, 100s applied most with degrees and only a handful picked.

[flapsupdown]

So that leads to the question I originally had in mind....can cabin crew, and for that matter, current employees, without HKID card, be considered for the ab initio program?

[SloppyJoe]

As previously stated, you need a permanent HKID to be acceptable for the ab-initio scheme. If you get a job with CX and a work permit for HKG you are issued a temporary HKID. If you hold that HKID for 7 years you can exchange it for a permanent HKID. So after 7 years, yes, you would be able to apply for the cadet scheme.

[Clish]

sloppyjoe pretty much summed it up

note tho... those who are cabin crews still go through the same process everyone else; they don't just transfer over

[yep_ok_whatever]

Syd ab initio testing

Anyone heard back from the recent Syd ab initio testing?

[100187259]

no hkid no cadet ?

Correct - regardless of what it says on the website, a HKID card is a requirement for the Ab Initio program, at this moment in time.

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Is this only for ppl who want to apply for the 61 weeks cadet pilot program ?
So if that is true, this wont affect me if i want to apply for the 32 weeks [advanced entry] cadet program right ?

thx !!!

[captain.weird]

Yes correct.

[Jim-J]

WRT Age question - all sorts between the ages of 19 (ab initio) to 42 (AE) so far enrolled for flight training/grading

[MidgetBoy]

I'm told time and time again by applicants that they're being turned down for standing up for themselves and not putting up with crap.
Isn't that a good thing? Don't you want someone asking questions if they don't understand something rather than blindly following instructions?

I'm told that wanting to read through contracts and not immediately signing documents is being frowned upon because you're being rude by not taking what other people would desperately fight over. What's up with that?

[crwjerk]

The fact that you are in a position to sign it, means that you didn't worry about what was in it. That's why CX are wondering why you're taking so long to sign it!

[Clish]

they give you contracts to take home and bring back to give to them when u do the 2nd medical. you don't sign on the spot

[joeAviator]

Help guys

Hi everybody,

I'm new on this forum... Have applied for the CX Second Officer Cadet Pilot Programme. Applied early this year (february). No real calls yet for stage 1. have been working in Aircraft Maintenance on a 19 (+3 crew) seater plane for more than 18months now. I hold a Bachelors degree (4yrs) in Engineering. specialized in Electrical & Electronics. But ZERO hrs of flying How would I fit in into a pilot's seat? How is this Second officer programme?Is it a wise choice to make for someone who is passionate about flying and doesnt have funds to get a Cpl on his own. How is it on the long run? How is CX on the whole? 'one of the best to work for' sort of?? Kindly help..

Thanx.

[100187259]

help guys

Hi everybody,

I'm new on this forum... Have applied for the CX Second Officer Cadet Pilot Programme. Applied early this year (february). No real calls yet for stage 1. have been working in Aircraft Maintenance on a 19 (+3 crew) seater plane for more than 18months now. I hold a Bachelors degree (4yrs) in Engineering. specialized in Electrical & Electronics. But ZERO hrs of flying How would I fit in into a pilot's seat? How is this Second officer programme?Is it a wise choice to make for someone who is passionate about flying and doesnt have funds to get a Cpl on his own. How is it on the long run? How is CX on the whole? 'one of the best to work for' sort of?? Kindly help..
Thanx.

ppl in the previous pg are saying that CX is no longer hiring ppl with zero flight hrs without hkid for 61 weeks cadet program. i cant say that is true for sure because the website still says other foreigners can still apply for 61 weeks, but hkid is given priority.
So i guess you can wait out or call Sunny Sign for more inquiry.
hope that helps

[Clish]

ppl in the previous pg are saying that CX is no longer hiring ppl with zero flight hrs without hkid for 61 weeks cadet program. i cant say that is true for sure because the website still says other foreigners can still apply for 61 weeks, but hkid is given priority.
So i guess you can wait out or call Sunny Sign for more inquiry.
hope that helps

actually you are just making ppl more confused. it is already confirmed that they are not hiring people without HKID's for the ab initio program. They do the interviews, but the ppl without HKID's wont get placement until something changes from the government; even if they pass all the stages.

[etrang]

it is already confirmed that they are not hiring people without HKID's for the ab initio program

Where is that confirmed? If its in writing on CX or HK Immigration sites please provide a link. If you are just talking about people in this thread claiming that its confirmed, then its not confirmed.

[SloppyJoe]

Here you go.

III.
General Employment Policy (GEP)


Eligibility Criteria
20. Applicants who are not non-local graduates but possess special skills, knowledge or experience of value to and not readily available in the HKSAR may apply to come to work under the GEP.
21. An application for a visa/ entry permit to take up employment under the GEP may be favourably considered if:

1. there is no security objection and no known record of serious crime in respect of the applicant;
2. the applicant has a good education background, normally a first degree in the relevant field, but in special circumstances, good technical qualifications, proven professional abilities and/or relevant experience and achievements supported by documentary evidence may also be accepted;
3. there is a genuine job vacancy;
4. the applicant has a confirmed offer of employment and is employed in a job relevant to his academic qualifications or working experience that cannot be readily taken up by the local work force; and
5. the remuneration package including income, accommodation, medical and other fringe benefits is broadly commensurate with the prevailing market level for professionals in the HKSAR.

The Government of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region - Immigration Department

As people keep saying, CX tried it on, the HKG immigration said no but were surprisingly forgiving for a government agency and allowed those already in the system to continue.

For the moment and foreseeable future you need a permanent HKID if applying for ab-initio as you bring no skill or experience that can't be found locally.

To be honest I think CX are still pushing it a bit with regard to number 2 and only a CPL/IR and 250hrs requirement.

[Clish]

SloppyJoe ... and just to point out.. the key point is #4

[flyber]

Cx and Hkid thing

Even those who started interviews prior to the hkid issue were also affected. Iam one of them (stage 1 Dec 2011 and stage 2/3 on Feb 2012) and have a few mates on the same fate. They told me that I have a deferral of 1 year.

[flapsupdown]

Just out of curiosity, at what point did they tell you about your deferral? And did they give you a set date for when you will start??

[flyber]

cx

@flapsupdown. Was to have an Icao retest this month before I head for grading but I was told that I have a 12 months deferral due to the HK immigration ruling. If I happen to be called again *sceptical on that* I was told I will start from stage 2. So another stage 2 after 12 months!