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Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

Old 19th Jun 2012, 18:12
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HKYAA?

Hey fellow wannabes!

I'm new to the forum. I recently attended a university career talk and there is this new non-profit organization doing a presentation after Cathay's called the Hong Kong Youth Aviation Academy. It provides ground school taught by current airline pilots and I hear they're accepting applicants now. Has anybody heard about this? What do you guys think?
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Old 20th Jun 2012, 09:56
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Hi all, it's been a week ago since I had my stage 1 of ab initio with cx in hk and Im still waiting for their response. Is that common for people who passed to wait that long? Coz I have heard some successful candidates waited only a day or two.

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Old 20th Jun 2012, 10:49
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The time it takes to let you know one way or the other will vary. The person who interviewed you may be flying somewhere the next day for a 5 day pattern or they may have a few days off and not want to work during that time so may not submit a report. The people who decide who progress once all information about you is submitted may have other things going on also and it probably wont be just one person. It is just the way it is at CX for a lot of things, many people who are in positions of power usually get to decide these things.

For any upgrade, SO to JFO, JFO to FO, or FO to CN, a group of guys get together and have a look over your past history, reports filed, simulator grades, anything on your permanent file, any crm issues (usually have you annoyed the wrong person), etc. This happens usually once a month when they can all get together. It would not surprise me if the same thing goes for the interview. They probably get together once a month to decide on the past months candidates. So if you interview a couple of days before they get together you will know very soon the outcome. If you interview the day after this meeting it will be a month before you hear. The guys/girls in the office are nice people so as soon as they have the information to email candidates they will do that as know it is hard waiting.

If there are other issues it may take longer, medical for example and they want clarification so it has to go through medical department. I know when I joined they used to get US confirmation that you could get a crew visa prior to a job offer.

It is all variable.
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Old 20th Jun 2012, 11:55
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Dear SloppyJoe

Thanks a lot for your reply. I'll keep my finger crossed and work on my preparation. Cheers
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Old 20th Jun 2012, 15:56
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Joycekin when did you attend the initial interview?
I have been waiting for almost 2 weeks and still have not received any call or e-mail.

Do anybody know if you will receive a rejection letter from CX if you failed?
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Old 20th Jun 2012, 16:04
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Usually the rejection letter comes quite quickly - within a day or two.

I waited for about 2 weeks before I got called for Stage 2.
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Old 20th Jun 2012, 16:13
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Pyromania when did you attend the initial interview?
Did you attend oversea or HK?
I am very nervous as I am not sure if I failed or not...
Thank you in advance.
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Old 20th Jun 2012, 18:33
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jonvan, i'm from Toronto too. where did you have your stage 1?
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Old 21st Jun 2012, 06:12
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In Hong Kong.
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Old 21st Jun 2012, 14:17
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JoNvAn

Hi JoNvAn,

I did my interview back in Mid-May in HK. (I am from Toronto)

I waited for 2 weeks before I received an email from CX notifying me that I was shortlisted for Stage 2. The next day, an HR personnel called my Toronto number to schedule a date for Stage 2.

Candidates that I have met and was rejected received the email the very next day.

FYI. I have a friend that did his interview in Vancouver in late May and was told they won't schedule anything for him till August.

No news is good news. Just be patient.
There are people that waited for a month before hearing back from CX.

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Old 21st Jun 2012, 16:17
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Thanks Pyromania. Good luck on your stage 2 interview.
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Old 22nd Jun 2012, 03:21
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Hi

Hi,
I am also from Toronto and my Interview has been scheduled for July.
I was wondering if you would be able to share your experience. Any tips/advice
would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Cheers,
Ross
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Old 22nd Jun 2012, 05:42
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Hong Kong Youth Aviation Academy

Dear Doris

I think joining HKYAA is a good idea for learning more about aviation and at the bottom line preparing for an airline interview. It's started by a group of volunteer local airline pilots with lecturers from engineering, air traffic control, government flying service and the civil aviation department as well. Normally this type of course is very costly but HKYAA is essentially free. They are aiming for Uni students so if you're interested, do apply and see if get selected for the program.
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Old 22nd Jun 2012, 07:32
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cpl or no cpl ?

hi,

im just wondering for those ppl who are off to stage 2, do they hold a cpl and 250 flying hrs or they have no flying experience at all before they apply ? is it more likely to get hired if i have a cpl/250 flying hrs ? can somebody be so kind to answer my question cuz im wondering if i should get my cpl before i apply !!


Thx
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Old 22nd Jun 2012, 08:11
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You definitely require an ICAO CPL with 250+ hours flying experience to apply for the Advanced Entry Second Officer Programme or an ATPL with 1500+ hours flying experience for the Transition Training Programme.

The debate regarding international applicants registering for the Ab-initio Cadet Pilot Programme (with no previous flying experience) is still going on. The website continues to mention that preference is given to HKID holders, which means you can still apply. I strongly advise you to speak to one of the recruitment guys in Cathay Pacific and get that cleared.
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Old 22nd Jun 2012, 10:49
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Flight Grading

Hi all any 1 leaving for the advanced entry flight grading in july ?
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Old 22nd Jun 2012, 13:45
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Grading

Grading on 29/6. Anyone?
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Old 22nd Jun 2012, 15:57
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rdane042

Hi rdane042,

Are you going in for Stage 1 or Stage 2?
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Old 22nd Jun 2012, 17:53
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Originally Posted by smurf84 View Post
You definitely require an ICAO CPL with 250+ hours flying experience to apply for the Advanced Entry Second Officer Programme or an ATPL with 1500+ hours flying experience for the Transition Training Programme.

The debate regarding international applicants registering for the Ab-initio Cadet Pilot Programme (with no previous flying experience) is still going on. The website continues to mention that preference is given to HKID holders, which means you can still apply. I strongly advise you to speak to one of the recruitment guys in Cathay Pacific and get that cleared.
Hi,

thx for the reply. As a matter of fact, i did speak to Suuny Signh (recruitment manger) on the phone, he stated that there is risk that you might not be hired even if you have cpl and 250 hrs.

But overall, i was wondering are there more ppl with cpl who moved on to stage 2 more than ppl with NO flying experience at all ??

thx again

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Old 22nd Jun 2012, 20:30
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As a matter of fact, i did speak to Suuny Signh (recruitment manger) on the phone, he stated that there is risk that you might not be hired even if you have cpl and 250 hrs.
I've never heard of that before! I hold an ICAO CPL with 270 odd hours. Sunny Singh's statement does come as a surprise to me, especially having failed the Stage 2 interview recently. As far as I know, Cathay shortlisted 10-12 Indian pilots for flight grading and most of them are CPL holders with 250+ hours flying experience. Looking at 2011-2012 (Eurozone crisis, rising ATF prices, Japanese tsunami and the slow recovery of the US economy), I doubt if Cathay Pacific actually requires 300 Second Officers for the year, as one of their management pilots mentioned in an interview to a local newspaper.

But overall, i was wondering are there more ppl with cpl who moved on to stage 2 more than ppl with NO flying experience at all ??
I don't have the exact numbers. But I reckon HKID holders with NO flying experience will always be given the bigger slice. Fair enough.
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