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Since March it has been particularly slow since they have been pushing through all the RAF's Ex-Mil chaps. This has 'clogged' (if you will) the civvie route, but its by-and-large clear now.
Hopefully things wil be picking up!
Hopefully things wil be picking up!
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hey guys, I have tried a few times to update my incomplete application with no avail. I am getting the error "The online application system is currently unavailable, please update your application information later." However, I have tried several times over the last few months and continue to get that. Anybody else have this problem?
tried emailing CX..no response.
tried emailing CX..no response.
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Hi everyone,
Would like to hear from those that have been through stage 2 and experienced the Math test exam. Some examples of questions would be great and your experience on the over all day and feedback would much be appreciated.
Cheers.
PM's are more than welcomed.
Would like to hear from those that have been through stage 2 and experienced the Math test exam. Some examples of questions would be great and your experience on the over all day and feedback would much be appreciated.
Cheers.
PM's are more than welcomed.
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Right on cue.... And to think I thought it may take a page or 2?
Not responding to emails? Send them a text message. Again, best advice I've got. But don't call. No. Matter. What. What if they answer?!!!
Not responding to emails? Send them a text message. Again, best advice I've got. But don't call. No. Matter. What. What if they answer?!!!
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Well done
Well done CB,
Laughing my ass off!!
We should start a money pool for stupid questions! (and keep 10% of course!)
Keep em coming lads, need a good chuckle every day!
Laughing my ass off!!
We should start a money pool for stupid questions! (and keep 10% of course!)
Keep em coming lads, need a good chuckle every day!
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Application for CPP of CX
Good evening everyone. I have applied for CPP of CX in the Mid of July 2011. Just like other candidates, I have received a confirm letter from CX after application.
Here is the e-mail that I received from CX:
(Your application will be considered along with all other eligible applicants in your geographic area when we next select for interviews.Thank you for your interest in the Cadet Pilot Programme.)
But I do not hear anything from CX these 4 months.
Cause I have a friend who applied in June 2011, and he already did his 1st interview in Oct. Also, he got an invitation for the 2nd interview.
I tried to send an e-mail to the HR department about the progress of my application. However, the e-mail has been bounce back and indicated that the e-mail address has no longer available.
Here is the message:
([email protected] is no longer used for recruitment inquiries.Please email us at [email protected] or telephone +852 2747 8247 to reach our recruitment team.)
Then, I sent an e-mail to "[email protected]". It has been a week, but no one replies my e-mail. Then, I called the phone number today, it rang for 10-15 sec; then, someone hang up the phone.
Is there anything I can do now? In addition, I am now living in HK and my application indicated that HK is the first priority that I expected for my 1st interview, the U.S. is the 2nd priority.
I feel nervous of that because I also applied for the CPP of KA. And I guess I just ruined up my initial test which has been taken 12 days ago. (I think I did ok over all on the test; but I wasn't sure about the Math part. There were totally 15 questions and I only finished 11 of its, also, I wasn't sure if I got everything correct. However, I just do not received any call, in this point, I assumed that I have failed the IT) Therefore, I am kinda expected for the back up plan now.
Here is the e-mail that I received from CX:
(Your application will be considered along with all other eligible applicants in your geographic area when we next select for interviews.Thank you for your interest in the Cadet Pilot Programme.)
But I do not hear anything from CX these 4 months.
Cause I have a friend who applied in June 2011, and he already did his 1st interview in Oct. Also, he got an invitation for the 2nd interview.
I tried to send an e-mail to the HR department about the progress of my application. However, the e-mail has been bounce back and indicated that the e-mail address has no longer available.
Here is the message:
([email protected] is no longer used for recruitment inquiries.Please email us at [email protected] or telephone +852 2747 8247 to reach our recruitment team.)
Then, I sent an e-mail to "[email protected]". It has been a week, but no one replies my e-mail. Then, I called the phone number today, it rang for 10-15 sec; then, someone hang up the phone.
Is there anything I can do now? In addition, I am now living in HK and my application indicated that HK is the first priority that I expected for my 1st interview, the U.S. is the 2nd priority.
I feel nervous of that because I also applied for the CPP of KA. And I guess I just ruined up my initial test which has been taken 12 days ago. (I think I did ok over all on the test; but I wasn't sure about the Math part. There were totally 15 questions and I only finished 11 of its, also, I wasn't sure if I got everything correct. However, I just do not received any call, in this point, I assumed that I have failed the IT) Therefore, I am kinda expected for the back up plan now.
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Wait time
Just speaking from my personal experience, I believe that I applied online to CX in about Aug/Sept 2011, heard back from them within a month and was scheduled for 1st interview first week November 2011.
I did apply Advanced Entry, however, so there may be a difference in wait times between the 3 programs.
Seeing as they do it world-wide and seem to have many applicants, I would take the above timeline with a grain of salt. I'm not sure I would even subscribe to past posts in this forum as the demand or supply of applicants may have changed since that whoever wrote the last post of wait times.
Just rest assured that if you are competitive and a worthy candidate, they will get a hold of you. Even then, it seems like quite the in-depth process and from what a number of people are poating, there are some considerations to take into account, even if you are successful. If you dont hear back within a reasonable amount of time, have faith you will continue on whatever life path you are supposed to be on.
Following up ground to air's previous post, if there is anyone who has (recent) Stage 2 Interview experience, an account of your time in HK and the process would be appreciated.
I did apply Advanced Entry, however, so there may be a difference in wait times between the 3 programs.
Seeing as they do it world-wide and seem to have many applicants, I would take the above timeline with a grain of salt. I'm not sure I would even subscribe to past posts in this forum as the demand or supply of applicants may have changed since that whoever wrote the last post of wait times.
Just rest assured that if you are competitive and a worthy candidate, they will get a hold of you. Even then, it seems like quite the in-depth process and from what a number of people are poating, there are some considerations to take into account, even if you are successful. If you dont hear back within a reasonable amount of time, have faith you will continue on whatever life path you are supposed to be on.
Following up ground to air's previous post, if there is anyone who has (recent) Stage 2 Interview experience, an account of your time in HK and the process would be appreciated.
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Thanks a lot about your sharing. I think you might be correct, you have been waited for just a month for your first interview as you applied an advanced entry. It sounds reasonable that CX interviewed with candidates who has academic background related to aviation. Would you mind to tell me where was your first interview?
In addition, one of my friends who did his first interview in Oct. He also applied both KA and CX. He already received a call from the HR of CX (2 weeks ago) about the invitation of 3rd interview.
If I was correct, he did his 1st interview in Oct (This stage consists of the interview with 2 HR ladies, reasoning and numerical test, NO TECHNICAL interview included). His 2nd interview was in Nov 3rd or something, it was an ICAO English test. Then, he received a call about 1 weeks after that and invited into the 3rd stage of interview. But the HR told my friend that the date of 3rd interview is unknown in this moment. I don't even know why and my friend didn't ask either. What he has to do now is just wait for the further information from CX. However, my friend tends to be work with KA rather than CX (Just a personal preference). And he already go through all the stages of interview from KA and achieve an opportunity for the flight grading in Dec.
He said he will go to the 3rd interview of CX anywayz, but I know he is now just totally focusing on his flight grading of KA.
In addition, one of my friends who did his first interview in Oct. He also applied both KA and CX. He already received a call from the HR of CX (2 weeks ago) about the invitation of 3rd interview.
If I was correct, he did his 1st interview in Oct (This stage consists of the interview with 2 HR ladies, reasoning and numerical test, NO TECHNICAL interview included). His 2nd interview was in Nov 3rd or something, it was an ICAO English test. Then, he received a call about 1 weeks after that and invited into the 3rd stage of interview. But the HR told my friend that the date of 3rd interview is unknown in this moment. I don't even know why and my friend didn't ask either. What he has to do now is just wait for the further information from CX. However, my friend tends to be work with KA rather than CX (Just a personal preference). And he already go through all the stages of interview from KA and achieve an opportunity for the flight grading in Dec.
He said he will go to the 3rd interview of CX anywayz, but I know he is now just totally focusing on his flight grading of KA.
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EK/QR and 1st Stage TT
Thanks AB,
Well noted points, that is truly correct with the situation. For guys out there who still have thoughts that you will see a pay increase or overseas basing, its not gonna happen anytime soon. Timelines for upgrades may be long now coming out of the GFC and with the new aircraft coming in, bums in seats are already a problem. I hear that the Check and Training department as well as the simulator instructors as maxed out.
Had my 1st stage initial for TT yesterday in HK. Basically for guys on the 14 week programme only require to do a 30 Question Tech quiz in 30 mins and the standard interview with HR and a Training Captain. If selected. They will fly u and accommodate you for 2 nights if you are flying from anywhere closer than Oz and if you are further, u are given 3 nights with one night to recover from jetlag.
Questions were the same in general with what was posted. I had the Airbus 340 model.
Things to note :
1. Know the Aircraft that's parked in front of CX city.
2. Know the plan for A350XWB and what it may mean to the Airbus operators
3. Who is the competition to CX and what would be its business challenges. Know what competitor airlines are buying and how that may impact business
4. HR will be very concerned with your views on the 'C' scale (not openly called that) salary and would want to know how you will survive on that
5. If family is not traveling with you - how will you manage fatigue with commuting
6. If you are with the military - Would you stay in the military if you were promoted tomorrow and why not
7. For guys with instructional experience - Why would you not consider a simulator instructor job as the package is much better - (Currently still in B scale)
AB,
Finally, Its not JQ but JS that I would be going to. Jetstarasia. The challenge operating out of Singapore next year would be the launch of Scoot from SQ as well as Airasia's partnership with Malaysian Airlines for a premium business airline (I think its called Caterham Airlines or the likes) Not to mention Qantas announcement to start RedQ in KL or Singapore. With all that competition planned next year. There will be contest with JS. All being said and done, it does intrigue me with the notion the EK will be looking for A320 Captains. But aren't there many out there as well? Do you have further insights into this process and what is the going rate for EK employment in terms of requirements and experience.
Oh yeah - They did make a mistake of making me take the Reasoning test by mistake. The HR lady thought it was required. Its still the Raven 1962 Reasoning test Set. Thats all i remembered as you are given 5 minutes to do set 1 which are 12 questions and 40 minutes to do set 2 which comprised of 36 questions.
For the older guys, age did not come up, but from some of the other posts, they seem to let the guys go through till the last stage and didnt take them. Well I will update the forum and see if all the 'rumours' that they cant find people to fill the seats are really true.
Keep the posts and comments going.
Cheers
Well noted points, that is truly correct with the situation. For guys out there who still have thoughts that you will see a pay increase or overseas basing, its not gonna happen anytime soon. Timelines for upgrades may be long now coming out of the GFC and with the new aircraft coming in, bums in seats are already a problem. I hear that the Check and Training department as well as the simulator instructors as maxed out.
Had my 1st stage initial for TT yesterday in HK. Basically for guys on the 14 week programme only require to do a 30 Question Tech quiz in 30 mins and the standard interview with HR and a Training Captain. If selected. They will fly u and accommodate you for 2 nights if you are flying from anywhere closer than Oz and if you are further, u are given 3 nights with one night to recover from jetlag.
Questions were the same in general with what was posted. I had the Airbus 340 model.
Things to note :
1. Know the Aircraft that's parked in front of CX city.
2. Know the plan for A350XWB and what it may mean to the Airbus operators
3. Who is the competition to CX and what would be its business challenges. Know what competitor airlines are buying and how that may impact business
4. HR will be very concerned with your views on the 'C' scale (not openly called that) salary and would want to know how you will survive on that
5. If family is not traveling with you - how will you manage fatigue with commuting
6. If you are with the military - Would you stay in the military if you were promoted tomorrow and why not
7. For guys with instructional experience - Why would you not consider a simulator instructor job as the package is much better - (Currently still in B scale)
AB,
Finally, Its not JQ but JS that I would be going to. Jetstarasia. The challenge operating out of Singapore next year would be the launch of Scoot from SQ as well as Airasia's partnership with Malaysian Airlines for a premium business airline (I think its called Caterham Airlines or the likes) Not to mention Qantas announcement to start RedQ in KL or Singapore. With all that competition planned next year. There will be contest with JS. All being said and done, it does intrigue me with the notion the EK will be looking for A320 Captains. But aren't there many out there as well? Do you have further insights into this process and what is the going rate for EK employment in terms of requirements and experience.
Oh yeah - They did make a mistake of making me take the Reasoning test by mistake. The HR lady thought it was required. Its still the Raven 1962 Reasoning test Set. Thats all i remembered as you are given 5 minutes to do set 1 which are 12 questions and 40 minutes to do set 2 which comprised of 36 questions.
For the older guys, age did not come up, but from some of the other posts, they seem to let the guys go through till the last stage and didnt take them. Well I will update the forum and see if all the 'rumours' that they cant find people to fill the seats are really true.
Keep the posts and comments going.
Cheers
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It's a stock-standard question......a lot of airlines ask that question. Air Canada asks how you plan on surviving in Toronto or Vancouver on $38k.
Stop sensationalizing.
Stop sensationalizing.
Boxerpilot,
Thanks for your reply - as you can judge yourself by the questions asked our own HR people are concerned if the C scale is working - therefore I really wonder if you should pursue CX if you got other options.
You have an excellent plan and strategy in place by looking at a quick A320 command in Singapore which is good BUT you can't bank on EK taking you as a DEC on a WB jet with A320 time in five years time - Etihad and Qatar will put you on their own 320s as a DEC and then you can progress to a WB command there. I believe your master plan to gain a WB command in the Middle East via SIN is definitely more favorable to a pilot with your age.
You are in the lucky position with your experience to be able to give CX a pass whilst the majority of the kids on this forum claim the can't (although they can, they are just too lazy).
btw...for the Canadians - I rather live on $38.5k in YVR or YTO than HKG...at least it's home...plus AC's payscale goes up quite rapidly after two years whilst CX's doesn't.
Good luck,
AB
Thanks for your reply - as you can judge yourself by the questions asked our own HR people are concerned if the C scale is working - therefore I really wonder if you should pursue CX if you got other options.
You have an excellent plan and strategy in place by looking at a quick A320 command in Singapore which is good BUT you can't bank on EK taking you as a DEC on a WB jet with A320 time in five years time - Etihad and Qatar will put you on their own 320s as a DEC and then you can progress to a WB command there. I believe your master plan to gain a WB command in the Middle East via SIN is definitely more favorable to a pilot with your age.
You are in the lucky position with your experience to be able to give CX a pass whilst the majority of the kids on this forum claim the can't (although they can, they are just too lazy).
btw...for the Canadians - I rather live on $38.5k in YVR or YTO than HKG...at least it's home...plus AC's payscale goes up quite rapidly after two years whilst CX's doesn't.
Good luck,
AB
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There are only 2 ways of finding this out definitively:
1) find a lucky penny & go to creepy corner shop guy and buy a bar of chocolate. Open it. If you see a Golden Ticket - hey presto!
2) empty a box of Corn Flakes. See if a packet is at the bottom. Open it. If it's a 6 piece lego train set and not a CPP invitation then you have truly been successful.
Lastly, I would avoid their web site and any formal communication with the CX recruitment department to gain any information. Of course, disregard other information on this forum that you seek an answer from as well. Best to just rely on your "passion" a la "Use the Force".
1) find a lucky penny & go to creepy corner shop guy and buy a bar of chocolate. Open it. If you see a Golden Ticket - hey presto!
2) empty a box of Corn Flakes. See if a packet is at the bottom. Open it. If it's a 6 piece lego train set and not a CPP invitation then you have truly been successful.
Lastly, I would avoid their web site and any formal communication with the CX recruitment department to gain any information. Of course, disregard other information on this forum that you seek an answer from as well. Best to just rely on your "passion" a la "Use the Force".
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Preparing for your Cathay Pacific Interview
Hey guys,
I have an 11th edition of Preparing for Your Cathay Pacific Interview: The pilot`s guide
I no longer need it,
PM me if your interested in it.
Cheers
I have an 11th edition of Preparing for Your Cathay Pacific Interview: The pilot`s guide
I no longer need it,
PM me if your interested in it.
Cheers
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To whoever that matters.
Thanks to AB and the other gents who took the time to reply genuine queries and comments. I have to say that these forums for whatever it has been called is still very important to provide information to help anyone make an informed decision. To those that want 'quick fix' answers, spend some time looking through the 179 pages and more. The historic data will help you develop a mental picture but ultimately its your decision. As for cost of living as well as pay packages, it is a fact of life that the days of the expatriate terms are numbered. More aspiring pilots, pay to fly guys as well as the increase of GA and affordability plus fake licenses as well as inflated hours with an overall worldwide reduction in military experience due to shrinking armed forces exacerbates the problems. All corporations will be run by bean counters as well as management decisions based on prudence.
So for all young and aspiring pilots. Never forget why you have a dream. You have chosen a skill over a possibly stable 9-5 job or one subscribed by many in today's industrial age. But if u really believe in yourself and what u want, most flying jobs are regularized and many steps have been taken since the old 'cowboy' days.
I feel the frustration of the guys seeing a once proud and honorable profession being 'downsized' to being called 'overpaid, over glorified and spoilt bus drivers' by the people who don't even fly.
But make your own choice and don't look back. Remember a good point for interviews. 'loyalty'. CX has put in measures to ensure people don't jump ship by P2X hours and reward loyalty downstream. Albeit, much lower than the old A and B scale days. But look around asia... most airlines are offering C scale minus (explains Qantas move of RedQ to
KL or SG).
I have been following and tracking developments for
the Asia pacific area for the last 3 years. It's not going to get very much better.
The captains and FOs are playing musical chairs.
But as AB has rightly pointed out. The sandpit is a developing area with money.But that deal will run out at some point. Ironically for those who might be interested to know. Jetstaraisa is 70% manned by foreign nationals, ex SIA expatriates on local terms. Most recently Air Mexicana pilots and more from Europe that are having no chance of command as Captains never move. Imagine, an SFO with 14,000 hours!!
Now with Thomas cook collapse, they have also started pouring into Asia to grab jobs.
So no doubt about it, there are jobs and there are jobs. I am only in a slightly better position cos I spent 20yrs in the military on fast jets as an instructor. But to tell you guys the truth, I had to come out and spend many hours in books, magazines, forums, networking and simple commitment.
I hope the younger guys do not lose faith. But never forget this. you are joining an industry judged by your peers. U earn your own keep and you build credibility.These traits have been itierated many times by guys 'frustrated' with the 'youthful' ignorance and lack of initiative. But I have had the good fortune of information passed to me and would help a mate in need anytime. PM me if u are going for transitional training interviews and I can give u the updates.
Otherwise keep the posts coming. Fellow pilots who come through Singapore. Always open to expanding the network with like-minded people. You never know who u gonna work for or with. Cheers
So for all young and aspiring pilots. Never forget why you have a dream. You have chosen a skill over a possibly stable 9-5 job or one subscribed by many in today's industrial age. But if u really believe in yourself and what u want, most flying jobs are regularized and many steps have been taken since the old 'cowboy' days.
I feel the frustration of the guys seeing a once proud and honorable profession being 'downsized' to being called 'overpaid, over glorified and spoilt bus drivers' by the people who don't even fly.
But make your own choice and don't look back. Remember a good point for interviews. 'loyalty'. CX has put in measures to ensure people don't jump ship by P2X hours and reward loyalty downstream. Albeit, much lower than the old A and B scale days. But look around asia... most airlines are offering C scale minus (explains Qantas move of RedQ to
KL or SG).
I have been following and tracking developments for
the Asia pacific area for the last 3 years. It's not going to get very much better.
The captains and FOs are playing musical chairs.
But as AB has rightly pointed out. The sandpit is a developing area with money.But that deal will run out at some point. Ironically for those who might be interested to know. Jetstaraisa is 70% manned by foreign nationals, ex SIA expatriates on local terms. Most recently Air Mexicana pilots and more from Europe that are having no chance of command as Captains never move. Imagine, an SFO with 14,000 hours!!
Now with Thomas cook collapse, they have also started pouring into Asia to grab jobs.
So no doubt about it, there are jobs and there are jobs. I am only in a slightly better position cos I spent 20yrs in the military on fast jets as an instructor. But to tell you guys the truth, I had to come out and spend many hours in books, magazines, forums, networking and simple commitment.
I hope the younger guys do not lose faith. But never forget this. you are joining an industry judged by your peers. U earn your own keep and you build credibility.These traits have been itierated many times by guys 'frustrated' with the 'youthful' ignorance and lack of initiative. But I have had the good fortune of information passed to me and would help a mate in need anytime. PM me if u are going for transitional training interviews and I can give u the updates.
Otherwise keep the posts coming. Fellow pilots who come through Singapore. Always open to expanding the network with like-minded people. You never know who u gonna work for or with. Cheers
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Hi guys,
I'm currently serving in the RAF (non-flying trade) and am looking to branch out within the next year or so into aviation, I'm currently out of area and so do not have the time to look through such a massive thread to see if a similar query has been posted, so apologies if it has. I've been looking into this cadet pilot scheme with huge interest, however I wish to remain in work till the last possible moment which will mean timing my voluntary withdrawal from the forces as well as possible, I was wondering how flexible Cathay would be on interview dates, would I be able to apply whilst still serving? Also, how often do interviews come around and are they UK or HK based?
Many thanks for any help that can be given.
I'm currently serving in the RAF (non-flying trade) and am looking to branch out within the next year or so into aviation, I'm currently out of area and so do not have the time to look through such a massive thread to see if a similar query has been posted, so apologies if it has. I've been looking into this cadet pilot scheme with huge interest, however I wish to remain in work till the last possible moment which will mean timing my voluntary withdrawal from the forces as well as possible, I was wondering how flexible Cathay would be on interview dates, would I be able to apply whilst still serving? Also, how often do interviews come around and are they UK or HK based?
Many thanks for any help that can be given.