Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

[cx_773er]

The way I see it is if someone decided to go down the self sponsored route and fund their own training they would:

• be wasting more years of their life working in jobs they do not care about to earn money to fund enormously expensive training
• Have to fund their training which will cost thousands upon thousands
• Have NO gurantee of a job at the end of having invested their thousands unless they were lucky enough to land themself a spot on a mentored pilot program (although I guess this would only really be applicable to EU wanabees as right to work is required for the EU mentored programs)
• Have a huge amount of debt to pay back and be on a crap starting salary which would only compound the problem (versus the starting salary at CX which is good!)

If this was a few years back people would have been saying the same thing, ohhh just go for the self sponsored route the market will improve. Well here we are at the moment and there is no improvement. If people decide to self sponsor it is more than likely they'll end up on the other end with the same market conditions. We're not headed for a boom anytime soon.

[Em773ER]

but take away a hell of lot more in other areas

i know this is veering off CX topic a little, but since you raised the point, i'm just curious as to what you mean by this, compared to CX. you can pm me if you prefer. cheers

[ChinaBeached]

Mousey:.... You mean even MORE vitamin D from the upper levels while on a polar route or that I just received arriving back from ICN only a few hours ago? I did receive my dosage from the RHS of a widebody that you will sell-out to observe from seat 3. But thanks to the likes of YOU I can be blasted with that same radiation for far less money. Pathetically you honestly believe you are contributing to aviation....

If you can't accept another's opinion least of all offer an educated (look it up) perspective then don't bother. I know, I know... removing the ear plugs & head from the sand isn't part of the CPP / iCadet checklist.

[Konbini]

hey guys,

an attempt to bring the thread back to its topic:

I applied early April having previously failed 2nd stage last year. Am still waiting.

[VFE]

Does anyone have any advice on preparing for the Reasoning Test other than the following...

Non-Verbal Reasoning Test

Many thanks!

VFE.

PS: ChinaBeached, nice try at trolling but some of us have been around here a while longer than you!

[ChinaBeached]

Around longer than me? Congratulations. In my "short time" I have accumulated more PIC hrs in aircraft >5700 kg than you have TT, & am doing the job that in a widebody that 400 hr TT guys were selected for over yourself, as per your post:

So someone with a couple of hundred hours doing dog work in a spamcan gets a job over hundreds of experienced guys with jet time and OAA on their CV had nothing to do with it? If you expect me to swallow that then keep dreaming! LoL Congrats on getting an initial interview, nevermind the job mate - think yourself lucky you're not in my shoes and still instructing and well on the way towards the 3000 hour mark. I sadly don't have OAA on my CV but just a bundle of invoices for renewed IR's and PFO's over the past 5 years. All those 'contacts' nurtured haven't been able to help one jot either! Perhaps its time for me to move on in life methinks but I digress......

VFE

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So like a the guy on the previous page of this thread, you're so desperate you're willing to sell-out.

Having more "posts" doesn't make you more qualified, although you seem to think so. "Trolling"? As an illustrious instructor you should be able to see both sides to an argument. You can't. Get out of the training area for a change.

[Em773ER]

The way I see it is if someone decided to go down the self sponsored route and fund their own training they would:
be wasting more years of their life working in jobs they do not care about to earn money to fund enormously expensive training
Have to fund their training which will cost thousands upon thousands
Have NO gurantee of a job at the end of having invested their thousands unless they were lucky enough to land themself a spot on a mentored pilot program (although I guess this would only really be applicable to EU wanabees as right to work is required for the EU mentored programs)
Have a huge amount of debt to pay back and be on a crap starting salary which would only compound the problem (versus the starting salary at CX which is good!)

i am working full time and paying as i go. no debts what so ever...
its a financial bonus that i don't have a girlfriend/wife or kids or a mortgage, but yes its doable. i agree for some people its harder to pay as you go, but if the determination is there, you will make it work. relying on CX isn't the best option anyways, how do you know you will get offered?

p.s i care about my job very much, in fact i enjoy it and its a bonus that it can fund for training

[crwjerk]

You guys are missing the point. It's all well and good to think you may end up better off, but I have two points to make. Agree or disagree.

1. It's not about working in ****ty jobs to pay for expensive training, it's about learning to fly an aeroplane, character building, and making the decisions that come with it, to give you confidence when it comes to the crunch.

2.

Have NO gurantee of a job at the end

You may be given a job, but you'll have to work a damn lot harder to keep it. Even DEFO's are getting fired as we speak. Nobody is safe and nothing is guaranteed unless you do the work.

[VFE]

Can anyone confirm whether CX use the PW4052 and/or 4065 as well as the RB211-524 on the 747-400?

And are those 74's with RB211's all now G/H-T ?

Thanks.

VFE.

[Em773ER]

couldn't agree anymore crwjerk, well said


VFE

(anyone feel free to correct if i'm wrong)

between all 22, some use PW4052 and some use RB211-524H/T

[VFE]

Thanks EM773ER. Are there now 22 instead of 21 (as quoted on their website)?

Are all the CX with RB211-524 G/H-T rated at 60'000lb? I've got figures from RR of 58000lb - 60600lb?

Do the interviewers really grill candidates on this type of stuff? It's more of a google memory test than anything more weighty IMHO. Planespotters must have a field day!

VFE.

[KPHL]

VFE

this is what I found and used for the 747's

21 747-400: Either 4 PW 4052 rated at 50,000 or 4 RB211-524 H/T at 60,000
6 747-400F:RB211-524 H/T at 60,000 pounds per engine
6 747-400ERF: 4 PW 4062 rated at 62,000 pounds per engine
12 747-400BCF: RB211-524 H/T at 60,000 pounds per engine

[lost&found]

cx_773er

Have NO gurantee of a job at the end of having invested their thousands

Just to let you know, you are not guaranteed a job at CX when you get accepted to the course either.... i have heard of guys being failed on the final day in Adelaide! Ouch, a year in Adelaide with nothing to show for it.

[SMOC]

RB211-524......

G - rated 58,000
H - rated 60,600
T - Trent turbine mod (reduced EGT & SFC improvement).

All engines currently G rated with the Trent modification.

[Mrs Bernoulli]

The End of PPRUNE

This is such a nest for Communist bull****.

As this forum should be available to pilots who can share experiences as adults and mature humans.

I have applied for a position in CX because I want a career in this company. So of course I am willing to start at the bottom.

I will be leaving my previous company where I am employed as captain on a north european airline with +2000 hrs, because this seems attractive to ME. Who can say what I need in T/C, if itīs acceptable to ME then I will take it. But first after a successful interview. Since this bull****-website has lost itīs purpose, I will never try to get some information from here again.

Hereīs a tip for all forum visitors: This is a great website where you can sit and debate and practice your political ambitions, but if you want to share or absorb professional pilot experiences, LEAVE IMMEDIATELY.

[Em773ER]

I have applied for a position in CX because I want a career in this company. So of course I am willing to start at the bottom.

what position did you apply for? baggage handling?. hey congratulations on that, you can definitely work your way up to the flight deck if you applied for the cadetship, then you won't be sitting in that left seat again for a very long time.

I will be leaving my previous company where I am employed as captain on a north european airline with +2000 hrs, because this seems attractive to ME. Who can say what I need in T/C, if itīs acceptable to ME then I will take it. But first after a successful interview. Since this bull****-website has lost itīs purpose, I will never try to get some information from here again.

Nobody asked you to ask for help buddy, but hey if you make an informed decision, no one is going to attack you. That said, with this kind of attitude, its likely you will be looked down upon by your potential future colleagues. No one asked you to stay on pprune.

Hereīs a tip for all forum visitors: This is a great website where you can sit and debate and practice your political ambitions, but if you want to share or absorb professional pilot experiences, LEAVE IMMEDIATELY.

Believe it or not but you just contributed your own political ambitions, I find this humorous as it is hypocritical of you. Here's a tip for all forum visitors: This is a great website where you can sit and laugh at the likes of Mrs Bernoulli making a fool of themself

[VFE]

Many thanks KPHL and SMOC! Useful and hard to locate info there!

Another question I have is:

Does anyone know much about the 12 week course (for those with +1500hrs). Ie; what aircraft, flight content and whether this is still part of the selection process?

Thanks again,

VFE.

PS: If anyone here has been through the 12 week course and can pass on any useful information regarding their interviews and experiences I would really appreciate it if they could PM me!

[Mrs Bernoulli]

As I said, this community isnīt for the ones who actually have a job to talk about, I see that now. As grown-ups we should be able to have decent conversations regarding our work situations. The internet is and will always be infested by characters who canīt talk for themselves in the real world, so they spew it out over the world anonymously.

That said, good luck to all of you and donīt listen to this bull**** website.

[Em773ER]

Mrs Bernoulli

Yeh i'm a kid with not even a CPL, but what are you calling the professional pilots who are also adults, that are on this forum? are they immature and full of bull$hit like you imply?. I'm sorry mate but if you want to have a cry about how pprune has changed, go talk to the moderators or whoever you have to talk to. This forum is for people to discuss opinions and different issues. If you don't agree with the posts, or dislike the posts, fair enough, that is no reason to insult everyone one on this forum (or the entire pprune). Quite frankly I don't like your arrogant attitude, there are some higher ups (to the airline you hope to work for) in this thread that you could show some respect to...

VFE

pm Mr Fusion and ask for his/her gouge on the transition course interviews, it could be helpful to your questions.

[ixg888]

hi

hi guys i backread a lot in our very helpful forum and I have had a lot of useful info.. i got invited for an interview this june and I hope anyone who have been through the stage 1 interview to give me some more info to read and look upon. I don't want to be shabby and I really want to get into this program.

I only have 30 hrs of flight time in cessna 152.. and i really hope i can train at fta.. please pm me for useful guidance.

cheers!