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Apply now or wait?
Hello All, haven't posted on this forum for quite some time but i have been reading it regularly. Just want to see if anyone can give me some recommendations given my situation.
I did not make it pass Stage 2 last year in June as a 0 hour, Permanent HKID holding applicant. So they told me to reapply in 10 months. It has been 10 months and I was able to get a new application login a few days ago. Here is the dilemma, I have been working on my PPL and have a little more than 50 hours, about a month or two away from my check ride.
Should I submit my application now hoping I can get a sooner Interview? Or, should I submit it after i get my PPL? If i submit it now, am i able to log back in and update my hours the qualifications?
Thanks in advance!
I did not make it pass Stage 2 last year in June as a 0 hour, Permanent HKID holding applicant. So they told me to reapply in 10 months. It has been 10 months and I was able to get a new application login a few days ago. Here is the dilemma, I have been working on my PPL and have a little more than 50 hours, about a month or two away from my check ride.
Should I submit my application now hoping I can get a sooner Interview? Or, should I submit it after i get my PPL? If i submit it now, am i able to log back in and update my hours the qualifications?
Thanks in advance!
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You are in LA at the moment, I assume flying. Why if you have 50 hours do you think it will be another couple of months? I will be totally honest, if you have been in LA doing your PPL and you have so far flown 50 hours but your instructor thinks it will be another couple of months so say another 10-20 hours if you just fly at the weekends, I would not be surprised if you don't make it through again. Of course go for it, you almost have a PPL but flying is not for everyone and if it is going to take you 60-70 hours to get a PPL I would say doing it professionally is not for you. Not trying to be mean but this is exactly what CX will be thinking, why did it take you 70 hours to get a PPL?
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SloppyJoe,
Thanks for the comments. The reason why it will take me another month or so is because I am on a break due to the costs of training. My instructor said I was about ready at 48 hours. But when I pick this back up in the near future, I believe that I might need a few more hours than usual for review. Hopefully this won't affect CX's decision if I get an interview.
Thanks for the comments. The reason why it will take me another month or so is because I am on a break due to the costs of training. My instructor said I was about ready at 48 hours. But when I pick this back up in the near future, I believe that I might need a few more hours than usual for review. Hopefully this won't affect CX's decision if I get an interview.
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If you can explain it and that sounds fair enough then I would not worry. But that is one of the main things they will be looking for, its the whole point of flight grading. Your whole career is tests and training and if it takes longer than normal it will cost them more.
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How does CX handle pilot strikes?
EM777
You are kidding, right?
Unless you've been living in a cave in Tora Bora with Osama, you HAVE to have at least READ about the "49ers".
See the empty space (top RHS) on your browser? Type in the words "Cathay 49ers" (without the inverted commas).
Get some popcorn and a coke (I don't think you're of legal drinking age) and read away...
just out of curiosity, how does CX handle pilot strikes
Unless you've been living in a cave in Tora Bora with Osama, you HAVE to have at least READ about the "49ers".
See the empty space (top RHS) on your browser? Type in the words "Cathay 49ers" (without the inverted commas).
Get some popcorn and a coke (I don't think you're of legal drinking age) and read away...
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Orange Boy!
Thanks for the reply! That really helped. Yes, to be honest I agree with what most of the folks are saying on this thread. The standard of living in HK is RIDICULOUS! Having lived there myself before, I can understand why not having a housing allowance is crap (Although, I believed that has changed now, correct me if I'm wrong). But, lucky for me, we still have family and have property back home, so it's not such a bad idea. As for my PPL and CPL, I am holding off on that. I am currently trying to get my associates degree first and then I will apply to CX. However, after hearing the arguments and the facts I am thinking twice, regardless, thank you for the input Orange Boy
Cheers, Fong3r
Thanks for the reply! That really helped. Yes, to be honest I agree with what most of the folks are saying on this thread. The standard of living in HK is RIDICULOUS! Having lived there myself before, I can understand why not having a housing allowance is crap (Although, I believed that has changed now, correct me if I'm wrong). But, lucky for me, we still have family and have property back home, so it's not such a bad idea. As for my PPL and CPL, I am holding off on that. I am currently trying to get my associates degree first and then I will apply to CX. However, after hearing the arguments and the facts I am thinking twice, regardless, thank you for the input Orange Boy
Cheers, Fong3r
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Would someone be able to give me an idea of the questions asked in the stage 1 interview for someone applying for the advanced cadet program ie the 250 hour course.
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Hahaha! yes, yes it is still crap, No doubt about it, but from rumors I hear that at least instead of zero, there is 10,000 HKD monthly for housing now. (Still crap, way better than nothing...but not close to what is needed). However, for folks like myself who are blessed with housing and food and family there already. It isn't too crap of an idea.
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so mommy and daddy are going to house and feed you for 30 years?
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cx_773er,
i would assume that anybody attending flight grading would take a few refresher lessons or solo flights just to make sure they can still do all the things they will be assessed on.
As a for a low hour flyer, how low? If still near 0, i would be inclined to take more lessons. I would read the theory behind the the flying you will be assessed on and make sure you understand what is required to complete that certain section of flight e.g. steep turns, stalls etc. Couch flying would also be beneficial i think in helping you mentally go through checklists and procedures.
Goodluck
i would assume that anybody attending flight grading would take a few refresher lessons or solo flights just to make sure they can still do all the things they will be assessed on.
As a for a low hour flyer, how low? If still near 0, i would be inclined to take more lessons. I would read the theory behind the the flying you will be assessed on and make sure you understand what is required to complete that certain section of flight e.g. steep turns, stalls etc. Couch flying would also be beneficial i think in helping you mentally go through checklists and procedures.
Goodluck
KPHL
You have missed not just Dan Buster’s point but also others that are already here, which doesn’t surprise me considering you are only 21 and have almost zero life experience. To base any life decision on your current circumstances only is quite frankly irresponsible and incredibly naive. This is a life changing decision requiring long term considerations. Too publically state that yes the new housing is still crap but it doesn’t affect me because I have extended family in Hong Kong is breathtakingly short sighted and shouldn’t go unchallenged. I will make this very clear to you and Fong3r who is just as wet behind the ears. Even local cadets that CX has been hiring for the last 22 years have on average lived with their families for no more than 3 years after joining CX. Everyone’s circumstances changes and local cadets aren’t any different. To base your decision without considering all the possible changes to your life’s circumstances will only end in tears. Considering that upgrades are potentially going to take 6+ years after completing your training in Adelaide because of change in crewing requirements expected later this year, you won’t have a licence that is recognisable and therefore easily transferable for at least 8-9years. That is a lifetime in an airline seniority system which you will have to start all over again if you decide to leave CX and start with another airline that may offer a better deal.
Lastly I will say it again. Every time a new cadet joins CX on these grossly inferior conditions of service, only puts further pressure on the conditions of service of existing CX pilots. You only have to look at the last 20 years to see that CX have done this before and are now doing it again.
You have missed not just Dan Buster’s point but also others that are already here, which doesn’t surprise me considering you are only 21 and have almost zero life experience. To base any life decision on your current circumstances only is quite frankly irresponsible and incredibly naive. This is a life changing decision requiring long term considerations. Too publically state that yes the new housing is still crap but it doesn’t affect me because I have extended family in Hong Kong is breathtakingly short sighted and shouldn’t go unchallenged. I will make this very clear to you and Fong3r who is just as wet behind the ears. Even local cadets that CX has been hiring for the last 22 years have on average lived with their families for no more than 3 years after joining CX. Everyone’s circumstances changes and local cadets aren’t any different. To base your decision without considering all the possible changes to your life’s circumstances will only end in tears. Considering that upgrades are potentially going to take 6+ years after completing your training in Adelaide because of change in crewing requirements expected later this year, you won’t have a licence that is recognisable and therefore easily transferable for at least 8-9years. That is a lifetime in an airline seniority system which you will have to start all over again if you decide to leave CX and start with another airline that may offer a better deal.
Lastly I will say it again. Every time a new cadet joins CX on these grossly inferior conditions of service, only puts further pressure on the conditions of service of existing CX pilots. You only have to look at the last 20 years to see that CX have done this before and are now doing it again.
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I AM!!! That's why I'm so damn negative on these new crap contracts. Every person who accepts this crappy contract makes it easier for the company to eventually degrade MY contract. If NO ONE accepted this crap deal, CX would be forced to hire pilots on proper terms and conditions.
So don't worry KPHL, I AM worried about myself.
So don't worry KPHL, I AM worried about myself.
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I wasn't aware that being still on the nipple at age 20+ makes it OK to take it up the........
And a lot of us did have the balls to NOT be a sell out and "do it for less" because the nipple I was weened off taught me integrity & not to crap on your colleagues or industry.
In the near future kids like yourselves will change usernames & start berating this great "opportunity". You'll condemn those new joiners who will crawl over broken glass to undercut the terms & conditions you have. You may grow a spine & stand up to naive children lowering further & further what many worked so hard maintain.
And a lot of us did have the balls to NOT be a sell out and "do it for less" because the nipple I was weened off taught me integrity & not to crap on your colleagues or industry.
In the near future kids like yourselves will change usernames & start berating this great "opportunity". You'll condemn those new joiners who will crawl over broken glass to undercut the terms & conditions you have. You may grow a spine & stand up to naive children lowering further & further what many worked so hard maintain.
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