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Old 22nd Mar 2011, 16:16
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Just did my stage 1 in singapore today.

Wasn't grilled much on the technical side cause I didn't have much prior knowledge or experience.

The captain focused more on personal questions followed by the usual reasoning test, personality test and technical mcq.

All the best to those who will be going for their interview soon!
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Old 23rd Mar 2011, 08:17
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1st stage 2011

Victorlht88, wish you all the best and hopefully youwill make it to next stage. When did you apply and how long did it take them to contact you? As for the aptitude test how did it go and how many questions were there? Wonder whether its still the same format as last year. For the personality test and technical test how many questions and how long is given to complete tests?
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Old 23rd Mar 2011, 08:37
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Stage 1 Interview

Thanks alot blackbird93. I applied in dec and they got back to me somewhere in feb with my scheduled interview dates.

Interview (45mins)
Personal + Technical by 1 Pilot and 1 Staff from Cathay Pacific.

The personal interview is more of a "get to know you" session whereby you gotta sell yourself and let them have a better knowledge about you. As for technical interview, I believe its based on your prior experience (flying hours/experience) as he only asked me 1 question. You got to read up on some basic information about Cathay Pacific and its all the pretty standard interview questions. My questions were phrased from my application and he asked me to explain more on the reason for applying Cathay and not other airlines.

For those without prior flying experience (just like me) then I guess you will have to be prepared to ace the personal interview section.

As for the other 2 guys who were with me, heard they were grilled pretty badly about the technical aspects and not so on the personal side. I did not have much flying hours so I guess the pilot didn't really focus much on the technical aspects.

Technical Test (45mins)
30+ MCQs, just digest the JKI.

Personality Test (30mins)
2 sets of 17 Questions whereby you got to rank the sentences.

Reasoning Test (45mins)
1 set of 10 questions which is pretty straightforward and simple.
1 set of 35 questions which will be tougher.

*well according to blackbird93, he mentioned that it will be 12 questions in set 1 and 36 questions in set 2. i might have made a mistake but i guess the number of questions don't really matter much anyway, does it?

Both sets will be based on Raven's Progressive Matrices.

Thats about it, all the best to the rest!

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Old 23rd Mar 2011, 14:01
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thanx for intel victorlht88...wish u all the best...
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Old 24th Mar 2011, 05:15
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CAT- Clear air Turbulence
turbulent air with no signs of visible moisture content.

Sweptback wings have higher stall speeds due to poor lift ability (this is why we have high lift devices like flaps and slats). Sweptback wings have a tendency to stall at the wingtip of the wing.

hope this helps
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Old 24th Mar 2011, 06:42
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Composition of air in an airliner tyre?

Nitrogen
i guess nitrogen is lighter, and it does not ignite when tire has a temp. and it's not flammable. and i guess the reason why they use nitrogen on center tanks now for most of the new boeing (cx 77w start with KPK ) & airbus have something call nitrogen generation system to fill the center tank with nitrogen to prevent sparks in the tanks. airbus has it own name on it but does the same purpose.

maybe google can give you a better answer on why they use Nitrogen on aircraft tires in case they ask you why.
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Old 24th Mar 2011, 09:38
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Hey,

anyone going for stage 2 in HK on the 16th May? I was kind of suprised they arranged the dates till then, I had my stage 1 back on the 25th Feb. Is it normal to have stage 2 nearly 3 months after stage 1?

In addition here's the itinerary for the day:

- Personality Test (Computer-based/Time allowed: 30mins)
- Aviation Mathematics test (Time allowed: 60mins)
- Group Exercise (60mins)
- Flight Planning Exercise (90mins)
- Panel Interview (General and Technical: 60mins)

I also thought there was aptitude tests like the wombat, or is that at stage 3?


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Old 25th Mar 2011, 12:56
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TBH, no one can say what chance you have.

If they know about it then be prepared to be asked about it. Understand why that accident happened, and how it has changed your perspective, thoughts and actions. What did you learn from it? I think with anything like an accident they want to see you have matured and learnt from the event and taken steps to prevent it happening again.

Hope that gives you a start as to one approach you could take.
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 16:42
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Does anybody realize that you are going down the wrong path if you are considering CX? CX management (SK, IR, through their secretary) flat out lie to their employees; and managers often do not follow CX's MISSION STATEMENT. Basically, exploitation is CX's bag.... they will misrepresent the truth as often as it takes to make you join; and then you are stuck with a bond in a crappy job, where you make other people's bunks, don't get to fly, and have to put up with a bunch of douche bags. Now, you can add to this, you will be living in an expensive city, with enough housing assistance to rent a maid's room in my apartment. To further make the situation unappealing; everyone you come into contact with will hate you for not accepting better terms and conditions to move to HK as a professional pilot.

Still want to come here?
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 20:30
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But the airplanes are big and shiny!

The girls go weak at the knees when we tell them we're CATHAY pilots!

We get FREE sandwiches!

I'll be able to talk about REALLY technical sounding stuff like "Cat 3 ILS", "polar navigation" and "CPDLC" to lesser mortals...

Gosh, I'd do do this job for NOTHING, just let me touch those shiny controls!

Please please please please please please take me!
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 21:03
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Than why are you here asking questions....when you don't even know the basic....just look at your questions...its shocking you don't even know what CAT or CFR stand for, but yet you think you are ready to widebody jet around the world....I take that back since you will not be flying anything but your ego for the first 6 yrs....Good luck...what a tool.
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Old 26th Mar 2011, 03:25
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anyone have any last minute advise before my stage one?


and please no negative comments, this job is better then living on food stamps working for a regional airline.
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Old 26th Mar 2011, 04:50
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carpet weaver

I thought you said you had a private licence with 249 hours. So which is it, you have a private licence and live with your mummy and daddy or you work for a regional on food stamps? If it is the latter you should be asking yourself why you are working for a regional on food stamps and why we are trying to prevent that type of garbage setting in here. It takes two to tango sunshine and you're doing half the tangoing.
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Old 26th Mar 2011, 07:25
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WOMBAT questions

WOMBAT questions
For those who had completed the WOMBAT test, I have few questions after reading the manual:

1. Are there two "tracking worth-performance indicator" (p-v square) being shown on the screen throughout the test? One shows the tracking performance and the other shows the bonus performance?

2. If only one indicator is being displayed for your performance, how do you know that the decrease of performance is due to the autotrack mode failure or the incorrect answer on bonus questions?

3. If I understand the mnual correctly, while doing bonus questions, if one see the performance indicator decrease, it indicates a failure on autotrack mode, and one must switch back to the tracking mode immediately by pushing the "Bonus" button to correct the tracking actions. Am I right?

4. If statement 3. is correct, what happens to the bonus question when you terminate it? When you again finish auto tracking and switch back to bonus question, will you be resumed to the previous bonus question automatically, or you will start with a new one?

5. The interview itinerary shows there will be 90 minuets for WOMBAT test. Does the time start to count when instructions section starts, or it is the length of the actual test time once the test starts (after the instruction)?

6. 90 minutes seems quite long for this test! Is there a limited numbers of bonus games you could play such that if you do fast enough to finish all available bonus games, you can finish the test early. Or you will have to complete the entire 90 minutes test regardless how fast you perform?

7. Will the final score be shown on the display after you complete the test?


I found these questions on #1005 by eleong but still no one answer to them, is that anyone of you can answer to them??

as I would have my stage 1 interview on 11 Apr
anyone doing stage 1 on that day also?

Terry
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Old 26th Mar 2011, 10:42
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April Interviews Auckland

Hi there Chch boy can you tell me were you advised by email or by post as to the upcoming interview in Auckland? Also when did you apply? Understand you wanting to get out of Chc. Very distressing situation. Hope your family are all safe.
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Old 26th Mar 2011, 12:55
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I dont quite understand the point your trying to get across here but yes ppl, commercial fairly soon. I dont plan on being a private pilot forever, eventually I will move on and if CX doesnt work, im going to end up at a regional and I am quite familiar to the lifestyle they live.
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Old 26th Mar 2011, 15:50
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carpet weaver

The point I am trying to make is pilots in regionals in the US living on food stamps is a disgrace. Unfortunately though the reality is for every pilot that was offered these disgraceful conditions there was a pilot that accepted them. You may think CX is offering you a lot of money but the reality is that you may as well be living on food stamps with the cost of living here in Hong Kong, the third most expensive city in the world to live. Even New York which is the most expensive city in the US only ranks at number 8. The only cities more expensive than Hong Kong are Tokyo and Moscow, both ranked 1 & 2 respectively.
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Old 26th Mar 2011, 21:20
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carpet weaver

Just so you know.....if CX doesn't work , you will not end up at regional, Cause they will hire you with your 250 hours total time....After 5 or 6 years at CX you will still have 250 with no type rating...why do you guys think you can log these time....CX will not even issue you SIC type. At the end of day its your life and you do what you want, you see If this was, such a great deal, they wouldn’t have any problem recruiting but as you can see they are….its not only a financial suicide it’s also carrier disaster…Good luck in your interview
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Old 27th Mar 2011, 01:40
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I guess what everyone is trying to say is, if you know regional pay is crappy why are you taking this crappy pay from CX. This new icadet T&C is no diferent than regional crappy pay. In U.S. you will only pay tax to uncle sam, but in HKG you will end up paying tax to both uncle sam and HKG goverment, just do the math and see for yourself All the best , hope you all find what your looking for.
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Old 27th Mar 2011, 02:55
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Today is 'emoticon day'.

If any of you wannabes out there accept this dreadful package and if you succeed in meeting the required standard and if you end up in my cockpit I don't want to hear one peep about your crappy accommodation, poor promotion prospects, unmarketable flight experience, sub-standard salary or the company culture.

The corporation has just announced record profits, yet it is not prepared to invest properly in its future crew in order to expand the airline safely and efficiently. There is a Senate Inquiry into 'cadet schemes' etc. going on in Australia right now, and we know about the Colgan disaster, don't we?

There are already recent-joiners who have just discovered what housing costs really are here. I suggest a session with Mr. Google if you haven't had one already.

Just make sure you put enough money aside so you can eat properly, and you had better be properly rested in your 'accommodation' so that you can do your job under the occasionally very demanding conditions that we were once paid A scales to cope with (typhoon season runs from about July to October).

We have had management making war on our salaries and conditions for the better part of twenty years now and if you accept these terms you must be aware that there will be little goodwill or sympathy toward you.

P.S. I too cannot believe some of the questions being asked here by persons aspiring to train as 'instant' pilots of wide-bodied, globally-flying airliners.

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