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25th Jun 2020, 15:46
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Posted By Gary Brown

I think it's worth emphasising that the Interim...

I think it's worth emphasising that the Interim Report is very spare on details about the crew and their actions. There is a fair amount tof FDR and ATC derived information, and references to crew...
25th Jun 2020, 08:12
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Posted By Gary Brown

Can I repeat an earlier question? We will lack...

Can I repeat an earlier question? We will lack FDR data for the last couple of minutes of the flight. Are we likely to therefore lack any useful / important data for the investigation, and for...
24th Jun 2020, 14:08
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Posted By Gary Brown

Thanks - I'd missed that sentence about the CVR,...

Thanks - I'd missed that sentence about the CVR, Para 19:

19.The CVR recording was found to be of good quality and covered complete flight. However, FDR included the data of the entire flight...
24th Jun 2020, 12:57
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Posted By Gary Brown

The link...

The link (https://tribune.com.pk/story/2249456/1-pilots-overconfident-unfocused-due-pandemic-aviation-minister/) I posted above to an interview this morning with the Pakistan Aviation Minister may...
24th Jun 2020, 11:27
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Posted By Gary Brown

21h has what looks to me like an oddity, unless...

21h has what looks to me like an oddity, unless it's just standard "further investigation" language:

(h) Assessment of preflight medical actions, and post-crash initial response by CAA, is also...
24th Jun 2020, 11:21
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Posted By Gary Brown

From 20k of the Interim Report: Intention to...

From 20k of the Interim Report:

Intention to undertake another ILS approach for landing on runway 25Lwas conveyed, however shortly after the go-around both engines failed one by one. Ram Air...
24th Jun 2020, 10:24
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Posted By Gary Brown

And the Interim Report...

And the Interim Report (https://www.caapakistan.com.pk/Upload/SIBReports/AAIB-431.pdf) just published by Pakistan AAIB.
24th Jun 2020, 10:21
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Posted By Gary Brown

A start of proper reports...

A start of proper reports (https://tribune.com.pk/story/2249456/1-pilots-overconfident-unfocused-due-pandemic-aviation-minister/) on the contents of the Preliminary Report presented to the Pakistan...
23rd Jun 2020, 13:44
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Posted By Gary Brown

BTW - in this context - amoung some of the...

BTW - in this context - amoung some of the baloney "leaks" of the awaited Interim Report in today's Pakistani and Indian press is some nonsense about their being 17 minutes between the first landing...
13th Jun 2020, 10:35
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Posted By Gary Brown

@ uncle dicky Yes - completely my error in...

@ uncle dicky

Yes - completely my error in cleaning up the format of the transcript. I'll correct.
13th Jun 2020, 10:35
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Posted By Gary Brown

@ parkfell Apologies - that's my error in...

@ parkfell

Apologies - that's my error in cleaning up the formatting of the transcript - that should of course be Approach ATC. And I'll correct that.
13th Jun 2020, 09:33
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Posted By Gary Brown

[Apologies - I made an editing error in cleaning...

[Apologies - I made an editing error in cleaning up the formatting of the original and originally put "Tower ATC" instead of the correct "Approach ATC"]

It's worth repeating the ATC transcript of...
12th Jun 2020, 08:49
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Posted By Gary Brown

Though it's worth mentioning, in this general...

Though it's worth mentioning, in this general context, that anyone can read the detailed and complete CVR transcript from AF447 many times over, in French or in good translation, and while you can be...
9th Jun 2020, 10:03
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Posted By Gary Brown

Apologies if this has already been asked and...

Apologies if this has already been asked and answered but, in the approach profile which the crew seem actually have flown, at what point ought Gear Down to have been selected? And in what ways, if...
7th Jun 2020, 21:04
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Posted By Gary Brown

Interesting. I hadn't really thought of the...

Interesting. I hadn't really thought of the "what if they had just plunked it hard down first time round" question. One to think about; though far beyond my paygrade, such as it is. And, as far...
7th Jun 2020, 14:55
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Posted By Gary Brown

Indeed. Pretty obviously the immediate cause of...

Indeed. Pretty obviously the immediate cause of the crash was "technical": extensive damage to both engines during the earlier go-around........ a technical issue if ever there was one (and which...
30th May 2020, 09:17
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Posted By Gary Brown

Fair point - but it's not even clear to me, from...

Fair point - but it's not even clear to me, from the publicly available audio, that he's saying "carrying out" . And in any case, we don't know how the Approach controller knew whatever it was he...
30th May 2020, 08:34
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Posted By Gary Brown

That's why I posed my "actual sequence of events"...

That's why I posed my "actual sequence of events" query a few pages back...... So far as I am aware, the only ATC mention of the state of the gear is *after* the first, failed landing, as they are...
29th May 2020, 15:14
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Posted By Gary Brown

45 pages of comments........ Are we any nearer to...

45 pages of comments........ Are we any nearer to knowing whether: a) this was a horrible gear-up landing and go-round, that then got even worse; or b) was this a poorly executed gear-down go-around,...
13th Mar 2019, 19:25
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Posted By Gary Brown

Just a note on what's brewing as some sort of...

Just a note on what's brewing as some sort of controversy....

The LionAir610 FDR was examined thusly...
3rd Dec 2018, 11:21
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Posted By Gary Brown

Just a tad of update ...

Just a tad of update ...
28th Nov 2018, 09:28
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Posted By Gary Brown

From the Synopsis (quoted above) of today's...

From the Synopsis (quoted above) of today's Interim Report, about the previous flight:

The PIC noticed the aircraft was automatically trimming AND. The PIC moved the STAB TRIM switches to CUT OUT...
28th Nov 2018, 08:39
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Posted By Gary Brown

The Preliminary Report (78 pages) linked to above...

The Preliminary Report (78 pages) linked to above (http://knkt.dephub.go.id/knkt/ntsc_aviation/baru/pre/2018/2018%20-%20035%20-%20PK-LQP%20Preliminary%20Report.pdf) is a very slow download this...
24th Nov 2018, 11:21
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Posted By Gary Brown

Apologies if this has been mentioned before (I...

Apologies if this has been mentioned before (I can't find a direct post...). On an 737NG Ground School Slide Show (https://www.slideshare.net/theoryce/b737-ng-flight-controls) I see the following:...
23rd Nov 2018, 13:03
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Posted By Gary Brown

[my emphasis] I wonder if he actually said...

[my emphasis]

I wonder if he actually said that, or meant it if he did?
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