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10th Jul 2020, 23:02
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Posted By clvf88

I do recall some mention of this some time ago -...

I do recall some mention of this some time ago - I can't remember if it was rumour or from an official source.

But for clarity, BA are not using sickness, or any other absense for that matter, as...
12th May 2020, 13:27
Replies: 182
Views: 72,573
Posted By clvf88

I can't tell if this is tongue-in-cheek or...

I can't tell if this is tongue-in-cheek or serious. If the later, I'm actually embarrassed for you.
9th May 2020, 23:51
Replies: 1,501
Views: 1,231,247
Posted By clvf88

Rex - I'm trying to unravel your comment about...

Rex - I'm trying to unravel your comment about why LIFO is fair but I'm afraid your arguement makes no zero sense to me. I do agree with your assertion about a stay of execution though,...
9th May 2020, 22:05
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Posted By clvf88

I can assure you that nearer the bottom of the...

I can assure you that nearer the bottom of the list under LIFO is equally depressing.
9th May 2020, 21:49
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Posted By clvf88

Fairness is of course a subjective thing. But...

Fairness is of course a subjective thing. But would you argue that its fair for a senior pilot, a year or two off retirement, to keep his position whilst the junior pilot with the young family who...
9th May 2020, 21:11
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Posted By clvf88

I think others above have answered this well. But...

I think others above have answered this well. But I'll try too -

I propose a wager. I bet you that the average age of a member of the bottom 10% of the MSL is lower than that of the top 10%.
...
9th May 2020, 18:50
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Views: 1,231,247
Posted By clvf88

Somethings are illegal to 'discriminate' upon -...

Somethings are illegal to 'discriminate' upon - age is one of them. Its my understanding that LIFO in our industry is likely so highly correlated with age that it could be illegal.

I can't think...
23rd Apr 2020, 08:33
Replies: 2,008
Views: 1,265,288
Posted By clvf88

Just to re-iterate what some others have said;...

Just to re-iterate what some others have said; all is not lost and your son is not the first to find himself in this position. I was also on a cadet scheme with a company who we're making...
21st Apr 2020, 08:43
Replies: 1,403
Views: 1,180,392
Posted By clvf88

Thanks for the additional info 3G. Interesting. ...

Thanks for the additional info 3G. Interesting.

Nothing would suprise me at the moment, but I do hope you're correct.
20th Apr 2020, 20:15
Replies: 1,403
Views: 1,180,392
Posted By clvf88

Would this be the MOA that had a section of it...

Would this be the MOA that had a section of it suspended just a month or so ago when it didnt suit?
18th Apr 2020, 16:51
Replies: 1,403
Views: 1,180,392
Posted By clvf88

Its not quite that black and white. Note the...

Its not quite that black and white. Note the 'Unfair Selection' section. I'd imagine seniority at BA / Virgin is so highly correlated with age that it could be argued to be the same thing.

I also...
1st Apr 2020, 09:48
Replies: 134
Views: 36,250
Posted By clvf88

Just being devils advocate; but its only stealing...

Just being devils advocate; but its only stealing if one buys into the idea of seniority. Is it not more reasonable that the airline will look at their own internal upgrade candidates, and direct...
31st Mar 2020, 22:46
Replies: 134
Views: 36,250
Posted By clvf88

You don't slot in anywhere as there is no 'list'....

You don't slot in anywhere as there is no 'list'. You join in the role you are offered and probably applied for (SO, FO, CPT etc). I'm sure you must have some awareness of how these things work in...
31st Mar 2020, 21:18
Replies: 134
Views: 36,250
Posted By clvf88

The above mentioned merit of seniority is that...

The above mentioned merit of seniority is that its 'fair and transparent'. We are discussing seniority in this thread; and he is offering a counter-argument.
31st Mar 2020, 18:13
Replies: 134
Views: 36,250
Posted By clvf88

True. But what saved the day was that there we're...

True. But what saved the day was that there we're non-seniority based airlines for them to slip into (I know TUI technically is - though the above is at odds with a strict seniority system).

It...
31st Mar 2020, 16:24
Replies: 134
Views: 36,250
Posted By clvf88

I'm undecided. Genuine question though. Lets...

I'm undecided.

Genuine question though. Lets assume you're now aged 50, a senior TRE within your company, with a family etc to support. Your company has issues and folds. You are now probably...
31st Mar 2020, 11:33
Replies: 134
Views: 36,250
Posted By clvf88

Seniority based airline. I'm not posting an...

Seniority based airline.

I'm not posting an arguement for or against; but questioning whether peoples faith in it with relation to redundancies is misplaced.
31st Mar 2020, 11:08
Replies: 134
Views: 36,250
Posted By clvf88

I'm not fully up to speed on the law surrounding...

I'm not fully up to speed on the law surrounding this, but lets assume you are correct and it is legal.

The reality is that, as you state, it benefits the pilots; in that it will cost the airline...
31st Mar 2020, 09:18
Replies: 134
Views: 36,250
Posted By clvf88

Why? There is what I deem to be a rather...

Why?

There is what I deem to be a rather delusional attitude among some of the large UK seniority based airlines that redundancy will be from the bottom of the list up.

Putting aside the legal...
23rd Mar 2020, 16:28
Replies: 54
Views: 23,690
Posted By clvf88

Have you read the comments preceeding yours? ...

Have you read the comments preceeding yours?

We are not allowed to help collegues in a current struggle because we might offend some who has been made redundant in the past? To avoid future...
22nd Mar 2020, 19:21
Replies: 145
Views: 93,324
Posted By clvf88

Spot on :ok:

Spot on :ok:
22nd Mar 2020, 18:28
Replies: 54
Views: 23,690
Posted By clvf88

So it would seem this particular debate hinges...

So it would seem this particular debate hinges upon ones perception of how long term you think this event will be - and thats anyones guess at this stage.

As for who would lend money to airlines;...
22nd Mar 2020, 17:21
Replies: 54
Views: 23,690
Posted By clvf88

You have a very confused and short-termist view...

You have a very confused and short-termist view of how a business operates. You realise x% doesnt roll off the customers credit cards straight into employees payroll?

The money would most likely...
20th Mar 2020, 16:09
Replies: 54
Views: 23,690
Posted By clvf88

I'm sorry to say, but I think that to be a very...

I'm sorry to say, but I think that to be a very naive viewpoint. There is a massive grey area between job loss and nessesary cuts to employee terms and conditons. Trusting the management to do...
14th Mar 2020, 22:19
Replies: 7,030
Views: 6,348,904
Posted By clvf88

I'm obviosuly not in any positon to clarify, but...

I'm obviosuly not in any positon to clarify, but the most recent comms I've read suggest that all March start dates are going ahead. Good luck - we'll all need it!
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