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25th May 2016, 18:58
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Posted By Bertie Bonkers

Colour me cynical, but when I see pieces like...

Colour me cynical, but when I see pieces like these I often wonder if someone in the Ukraine hasn't got themselves a nice little business crating up pieces of MH17 and shipping them to places looking...
25th Nov 2015, 10:50
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Views: 110,853
Posted By Bertie Bonkers

I'm sure Turkey say the missile was fired while...

I'm sure Turkey say the missile was fired while the Su was in their airspace but it does seem a bit "Tony Martin".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_%28farmer%29
10th Nov 2015, 22:31
Replies: 2,082
Views: 2,290,255
Posted By Bertie Bonkers

And would you not actively seek to leave a trace...

And would you not actively seek to leave a trace to show you did it?
10th Nov 2015, 22:20
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Posted By Bertie Bonkers

I take your point re this. As I'm seeing it up to...

I take your point re this. As I'm seeing it up to now, the HS goes down, the lower edge of the HS pivot attaching lug striking the connecting pin/bolt/casting which connects the two halves of the...
10th Nov 2015, 16:47
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Posted By Bertie Bonkers

Looking back at photos of the Hudson plane, it's...

Looking back at photos of the Hudson plane, it's possible to see pins connecting the two plates of the HS pivot hanger above and below. So once the HS goes down beyond a certain angle, the bottom...
10th Nov 2015, 16:03
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Posted By Bertie Bonkers

'Pinions' - that's the word I was looking for.

'Pinions' - that's the word I was looking for.
10th Nov 2015, 16:02
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Posted By Bertie Bonkers

The lower end of the HS pivot mounting let go on...

The lower end of the HS pivot mounting let go on both sides and swang backward on the top attachment, breaking the frame of the separation ring and prising the APU cone away at the bottom?
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10th Nov 2015, 15:43
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Posted By Bertie Bonkers

Good one Kulverstukas - that's exactly what I've...

Good one Kulverstukas - that's exactly what I've just been looking at. I'm guessing the 'slots' in the tail cone separation ring(?) are where the lug of the HS centre projects out behind the pivot...
10th Nov 2015, 11:14
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Posted By Bertie Bonkers

Thanks to Sardak for the Hudson plane photo -...

Thanks to Sardak for the Hudson plane photo - very helpful in clarifying how the HS sits inside & illustrates what some are saying about how the HS movement should be limited by the beam below.
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10th Nov 2015, 10:57
Replies: 2,082
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Posted By Bertie Bonkers

Picking up on previous posts by Sardak, FDMII &...

Picking up on previous posts by Sardak, FDMII & DeRated...

Left and right HS pivot mounts? If so, then as noted previously left side appears broken off at the top, right side appears to be...
9th Nov 2015, 21:34
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Posted By Bertie Bonkers

More so than I realised - this is what threw me...

More so than I realised - this is what threw me (I won't embed the pic because it's 1300px wide):

http://www.fineksaviation.com/images/HHMPI%20with%20all%20FDR.jpg

Second from left is a CVR,...
9th Nov 2015, 20:29
Replies: 2,082
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Posted By Bertie Bonkers

Yup, with you - my mistake. I expected the FDR to...

Yup, with you - my mistake. I expected the FDR to be a box+cylinder & the CVR to be box+drum - I guess it's all in the length. Looks like FDR on top from Kulverstuka's photo at 996. Thus:
...
9th Nov 2015, 17:28
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Posted By Bertie Bonkers

I'm thinking in terms of a sudden violent event -...

I'm thinking in terms of a sudden violent event - such that the inertia to be overcome in pitching the nose up would create enormous tension at the top of the cabin.

In terms of the flight...
9th Nov 2015, 16:51
Replies: 2,082
Views: 2,290,255
Posted By Bertie Bonkers

@CONSO

Is that not the cvr the chap in hi-vis is holding? Sat on the bottom tray as best I can figure from Kulverstuka's photo. Back end bent down by something large & very close behind it hitting it hard?
9th Nov 2015, 11:55
Replies: 2,082
Views: 2,290,255
Posted By Bertie Bonkers

HS separation

A second effort to illustrate a possible interpretation of HS separation. I understand this possibility is contentious/debatable and, as with my previous suggestion that the HS assembly went...
9th Nov 2015, 09:56
Replies: 2,082
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Posted By Bertie Bonkers

Agree - the HS sealing panel (as noted by...

Agree - the HS sealing panel (as noted by Control Eng previously) visible at the top left. I particularly note the angle of the remaining attached piece of elevator.
8th Nov 2015, 22:57
Replies: 2,082
Views: 2,290,255
Posted By Bertie Bonkers

Yes, with you on that. From the apparent lack of...

Yes, with you on that. From the apparent lack of any lower HS supporting structure visible in the VS section of debris I've been minded from the off that the HS went LE down. While I originally...
8th Nov 2015, 21:16
Replies: 2,082
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Posted By Bertie Bonkers

Ah. I certainly was. So the long and short it is...

Ah. I certainly was. So the long and short it is that the HS may not necessarily have failed "upwards"?
8th Nov 2015, 18:23
Replies: 2,082
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Posted By Bertie Bonkers

Absolutely 100% certain that is the top of the LH...

Absolutely 100% certain that is the top of the LH HS and not the underside of the RH? Because if it was, it would clarify a lot of previous suggestions in very short order.
8th Nov 2015, 15:35
Replies: 2,082
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Posted By Bertie Bonkers

HS

On a point of order, is it 100% nailed-on certain that the HS photographed is port/left side?
7th Nov 2015, 22:49
Replies: 2,082
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Posted By Bertie Bonkers

Though speaking as someone who was once a...

Though speaking as someone who was once a hard-core conspiracy theorist, I would suggest that beneath the veneer of competence, the governments of major powers know little more than the rest of us...
7th Nov 2015, 10:19
Replies: 2,082
Views: 2,290,255
Posted By Bertie Bonkers

Alleged ISIS video

Quick point re this - the alleged ISIS video shows what appears to be an explosion at the centre fuel tank followed by a trail of black smoke as the plane flies on with the tail still attached (no...
6th Nov 2015, 23:29
Replies: 2,082
Views: 2,290,255
Posted By Bertie Bonkers

True. But looking back at Kulverstuka's photo of...

True. But looking back at Kulverstuka's photo of the internal HS assembly & seeing how close the front edge sits to the back of the recorders where the connections go in, if that front edge took out...
6th Nov 2015, 23:15
Replies: 2,082
Views: 2,290,255
Posted By Bertie Bonkers

France24/Le Point/AFP

Just to follow up on this, the original AFP source refers to a "sudden, brutal sound" recorded by the cvr. By the time it gets to France24 via Le Point it has become the sound of an explosion.
6th Nov 2015, 23:06
Replies: 2,082
Views: 2,290,255
Posted By Bertie Bonkers

Thanks for the link txl. France24 quotes Le...

Thanks for the link txl. France24 quotes Le Point, which in turn quotes a 'source close to the investigation' speaking to AFP.
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