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Forum: Tech Log
11th Oct 2004, 06:25
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

zzuf Just before you disappear into...

zzuf

Just before you disappear into cyberspace spare a little time to explain the source of your magically produced counterforce produced without sideslip to counter that being produced by the...
Forum: Tech Log
11th Oct 2004, 01:59
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

ft and zzuf OK ft I'm back and inserting...

ft and zzuf

OK ft I'm back and inserting balanced into the statement of fact.

Here is the statement again.

Any multi having engines outside of centre line will be sideslipping during...
Forum: Tech Log
23rd Sep 2004, 03:20
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

Vmcg and Vmca Speeds and Safety Factors Some...

Vmcg and Vmca Speeds and Safety Factors

Some research on this subject since my recent post indicates that the old 2 second delay stipulation has been overtaken by civil type certification...
Forum: Tech Log
22nd Sep 2004, 10:12
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

Raw Vmca. Apolgies to all who considered Raw...

Raw Vmca.

Apolgies to all who considered Raw Vmca to be a formalised term.

It is my way of saying that most of the certified speeds for aircaft types have a buffer to give us a reaction time....
Forum: Tech Log
21st Sep 2004, 04:01
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

John Tullamarine John you presume too much. ...

John Tullamarine

John you presume too much.

At no time have I agreed to the impossible. The impossible is to have zero sideslip under conditions of asymmetric straight balanced flight.

We...
Forum: Tech Log
21st Sep 2004, 02:39
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

ft Fred Ref your last post. Sorry don't...

ft Fred

Ref your last post.

Sorry don't know who won what?

You say now "You base your case on there not being any horizonatal force at the tail sans sideslip?"

Sorry again I have lost...
Forum: Tech Log
21st Sep 2004, 01:35
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

Just made 3 separate posts which have somehow...

Just made 3 separate posts which have somehow become merged.

Perhaps this is what happens with PPRuNe when the same poster post consecutive posts.

Well back to the slipping and skidding and...
Forum: Tech Log
21st Sep 2004, 00:32
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

John Tullamarine Our worthy moderator has...

John Tullamarine


Our worthy moderator has raised 6 points for clarification concerning the complexities of asymmetric handling.

Rather than repeat them item by item which would make this a...
Forum: Tech Log
20th Sep 2004, 14:20
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

Cap 56 Keith Sorry I missed you last...

Cap 56 Keith

Sorry I missed you last time round Cap 56.

Some rearguard action I seem to be fighting. !!

I think you are saying

"If the force from the rudder/fin (they work...
Forum: Tech Log
20th Sep 2004, 12:07
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

ft JT and Keith later after some more use of...

ft JT and Keith later after some more use of grey matter and recall from experience. Thanks for the prompts JT. Give me a day to get back.

Fred with your comments we get right back to the rudder...
Forum: Tech Log
20th Sep 2004, 09:45
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

heedm Keith.Williams ft and all. Glad to...

heedm Keith.Williams ft and all.

Glad to have you join in heedm.

My definition would leave out 'in the horizontal plane' and would include 'normal to the vertical axis' and there are...
Forum: Tech Log
20th Sep 2004, 01:07
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

A review. This voice in the wilderness is...

A review.

This voice in the wilderness is returning and reiterating.

For too long now there has been almost aviation wide belief that we pilots can eliminate sideslip and continue to fly an...
Forum: Tech Log
17th Sep 2004, 09:24
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

Cap 56 Pan Pan Pan Just when I thought...

Cap 56

Pan Pan Pan

Just when I thought we had all sent cg/CG back to longitudinal now we have Cap 56 trying to slip that interloper back in to steady state directional stab.

Heaven to Betsy...
Forum: Tech Log
17th Sep 2004, 07:59
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

Oktas 8 SR71 ft and the tally sheet. Have...

Oktas 8 SR71 ft and the tally sheet.

Have you had another look at your post Oktas8 ? Is that OK True Air Speed 8 or heavily overcast, the reverse of CAVU.

Don't want to embarrass you but...
Forum: Tech Log
17th Sep 2004, 04:03
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

ft and all "Ask yourself how you can have...

ft and all

"Ask yourself how you can have symmetric airflow around the fuselage when there is rudder applied."

Thought that to be a very simple proposition that could only have one answer. Tis...
Forum: Tech Log
16th Sep 2004, 07:49
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

Bookworm Sorry no - not saying that. ...

Bookworm

Sorry no - not saying that.

Ask yourself how you can have symmetric airfow around the fuselage when there is rudder applied.

If the airflow is symmetric then the rudder is central....
Forum: Tech Log
16th Sep 2004, 02:31
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

John Tullamarine and my faithful intriguing...

John Tullamarine and my faithful intriguing respondents.

Should have set up the ground rules up front to avoid the confusion which has been flowing back and forth. Perhaps they should preferrably...
Forum: Tech Log
15th Sep 2004, 09:45
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

SR71 Confused a bit by your use of translate...

SR71

Confused a bit by your use of translate - to change to another language or to change to another form.

Presume you mean rotate but if so the question is too simplistic.

What you have...
Forum: Tech Log
15th Sep 2004, 06:59
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

ft You have answered your own question!! ...

ft

You have answered your own question!!

The minute sideways force is balanced by the minute sideslip caused by the rudder.

Think of it as the rudder pushing the tail around to cause a new ...
Forum: Tech Log
15th Sep 2004, 02:09
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

ft and all temporary disbelievers. Must take...

ft and all temporary disbelievers.

Must take more care to avoid misunderstandings ft. My reference to the the vertical through which the total drag acts was to bring to attention that the...
Forum: Tech Log
11th Sep 2004, 10:08
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

ROB-x38 and all. Welcome aboard. I think...

ROB-x38 and all.


Welcome aboard. I think we need a few more than a quorum before we are through with this.

Ok lets go fly your twin.

We have climbed to a safe height, closed down the left...
Forum: Tech Log
11th Sep 2004, 02:29
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

bookworm , ft, alf5071h Where are you SR71? ...

bookworm , ft, alf5071h
Where are you SR71?
Still with us J T ?

Great to have you joining the fray. You will find yourselves reviewing a lot of aerodynamic basics and may also come to grips with...
Forum: Tech Log
10th Sep 2004, 10:01
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

bookworm Thanks for highlighting the bits...

bookworm

Thanks for highlighting the bits you don't understand.

A sideforce from the fin, rudder central without sideslip ??? You have discovered something unknown in aerodynamics. Patent it...
Forum: Tech Log
10th Sep 2004, 04:44
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

SR71 CC John Tullamarine for your further...

SR71
CC John Tullamarine for your further delight.

Would be most presumtuous for me to claim the maths are wrong. Haven't checked them lately!

And SR71 - I see that you are now starting to...
Forum: Tech Log
9th Sep 2004, 01:32
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

SR71 Thanks for the hieroglyphics and the...

SR71

Thanks for the hieroglyphics and the erudite discussion.

Unfortunately you didn't explain, in the banked case, how a horizontally derived portion of lift acting laterally on the fuselage...
Forum: Tech Log
8th Sep 2004, 12:59
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

John Tullamarine and ROB-x38 That which you...

John Tullamarine and ROB-x38

That which you are overlooking is the resolved portion of lift from the few degrees of bank you are using to provide the horizontal force necessary to oppose the...
Forum: Tech Log
7th Sep 2004, 12:07
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

Bellerophon Sorry - any multi, not including...

Bellerophon

Sorry - any multi, not including those with centre line engines, having ANY measure of asymmetric thrust will be sideslipping in straight flight whether wings level or banked.

When...
Forum: Tech Log
7th Sep 2004, 08:40
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

Ah yes but isn't the yaw axis being rotated in...

Ah yes but isn't the yaw axis being rotated in the turn at the same rate as the rate of turn.? Hence no yaw. Yaw slip is showing!

Fires up the thought processes a bit !!
Forum: Tech Log
7th Sep 2004, 05:39
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

Sideslip Indicator not to be confused with a...

Sideslip Indicator not to be confused with a balance indicator is a rare breed.

Sometimes seen on a test aircraft fitted with a vane on a boom to measure the slip, away from the influence on the...
Forum: Tech Log
7th Sep 2004, 05:21
Replies: 124
Views: 18,866
Posted By Milt

The simple answer is neither. If you yaw in...

The simple answer is neither.

If you yaw in a turn you start to sideslip so you are no longer balanced.

You can do an untidy flat turn, wings level, by yawing.
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