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Forum: Rumours & News

14th Jun 2018, 16:02

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So WestJet almost puts one of their 737 in the water while landing at St-Maarten...

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Posted By PJ2

Yep, excellent writing, slast, particularly your...

Yep, excellent writing, slast, particularly your first point regarding 'valid instrument information', which is primary training material regarding cockpit discipline, as far as I'm concerned. Thanks.

Forum: Rumours & News

31st Mar 2017, 16:59

Replies: 326

So WestJet almost puts one of their 737 in the water while landing at St-Maarten...

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Posted By PJ2

You would not be offering such views if the...

You would not be offering such views if the outcome had been only slightly different as in the UPS CFIT accident at Birmingham and the Lion Air CFIT accident near Bali.

You can't argue both ways,...

Forum: Rumours & News

30th Mar 2017, 20:35

Replies: 326

So WestJet almost puts one of their 737 in the water while landing at St-Maarten...

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Posted By PJ2

underfire; I created the images using the...

underfire;

I created the images using the basic FR24 kml data in Google Earth (free version), with modifications as described in my post.

Method:
You can right-click-copy each/any of the FR24...

Forum: Rumours & News

30th Mar 2017, 03:26

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So WestJet almost puts one of their 737 in the water while landing at St-Maarten...

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Posted By PJ2

underfire; Well, interesting. We'll see if...

underfire;

Well, interesting. We'll see if any of those warnings were active any time during the approach. As aterpster states, age-old failure to maintain minimum until in the slot. Lion Air, UPS...

Forum: Rumours & News

30th Mar 2017, 03:04

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So WestJet almost puts one of their 737 in the water while landing at St-Maarten...

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Posted By PJ2

aterpster; Thanks...figured something like that...

aterpster;
Thanks...figured something like that [-(

I've used the FR24 data to plot the first & second approach paths, much like someone has done earlier in this thread, but a 3deg descent path...

Forum: Rumours & News

29th Mar 2017, 22:44

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So WestJet almost puts one of their 737 in the water while landing at St-Maarten...

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Posted By PJ2

aterpster, re, "I don't share your confidence.",...

aterpster, re, "I don't share your confidence.", where do your doubts lie? Tx...

underfire, what "multiple systems" and "all the bells and whistles" do you have in mind that would be "screaming"?...

Forum: Rumours & News

27th Mar 2017, 17:10

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So WestJet almost puts one of their 737 in the water while landing at St-Maarten...

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Posted By PJ2

clunckdriver; Some thoughts on reading...

clunckdriver;

Some thoughts on reading thread contributions.

It is long past time to take this profession back from "internet experts".

Regarding what is written on these threads, there...

Forum: Rumours & News

27th Mar 2017, 00:04

Replies: 326

So WestJet almost puts one of their 737 in the water while landing at St-Maarten...

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Posted By PJ2

Yes it is, but not that far out from the...

Yes it is, but not that far out from the threshold.

The airplane was low - below a 3deg descent path, period.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN3Fd0x0FoQ...

Forum: Rumours & News

19th Mar 2017, 16:05

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Posted By PJ2

:ok:, thanks aterpster.

:ok:, thanks aterpster.

Forum: Rumours & News

18th Mar 2017, 15:35

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So WestJet almost puts one of their 737 in the water while landing at St-Maarten...

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Posted By PJ2

Re photos of the airport, yes, found earlier as...

Re photos of the airport, yes, found earlier as posted above.

Re, "Also confirmed by the airport chart."

The PAPI information is not on the Jepp Airport chart. The info is on the approach...

Forum: Rumours & News

17th Mar 2017, 02:07

Replies: 326

So WestJet almost puts one of their 737 in the water while landing at St-Maarten...

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Posted By PJ2

Capn Bloggs - yes, your observations occurred to...

Capn Bloggs - yes, your observations occurred to me also...it would be surprising not to have some vertical guidance - I just couldn't find that confirmed by the current Airport chart, that's all....

Forum: Rumours & News

17th Mar 2017, 01:23

Replies: 326

So WestJet almost puts one of their 737 in the water while landing at St-Maarten...

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Posted By PJ2

Hi safetypee; Indeed: what was considered...

Hi safetypee;

Indeed: what was considered "contact" for this particular approach and what internal guidance and secondary (confirming) information was being used to verify on-slope/off-slope? The...

Forum: Rumours & News

16th Mar 2017, 15:45

Replies: 326

So WestJet almost puts one of their 737 in the water while landing at St-Maarten...

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Posted By PJ2

FullWings, re, "Must have been four reds . . .",...

FullWings, re, "Must have been four reds . . .", I wondered too. I haven't yet finished reading the entire thread so perhaps the question is dealt with earlier in, but the Airport INFO chart shows...

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