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Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
2nd Mar 2017, 10:51
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Have now found the MOU for the police and the...

Have now found the MOU for the police and the AAIB


https://www.gov.uk (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment)/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment

...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
2nd Mar 2017, 10:35
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

I think from reading this the CPS get a copy -...

I think from reading this the CPS get a copy - not the police investigating.


https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/assets/uploads/files/MOU between CPA... ·
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
28th Feb 2017, 09:29
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

https://www.westsussex.gov.uk/births-marriages-and...

https://www.westsussex.gov.uk/births-marriages-and-deaths/deaths/shoreham-airshow-inquest/latest-news/


Pre-inquest hearing has been postponed.
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
3rd Feb 2017, 14:46
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Still no news

Looks like it won't be February either looking at the AAIB website. Still in consultation and not scheduled for February reports as yet.
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
1st Dec 2016, 09:40
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Shoreham air disaster final report delayed - BBC...

Shoreham air disaster final report delayed - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-38159606)


Latest update from the media.
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
28th Nov 2016, 08:44
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Re final report Sussex Police v Secretary...

Re final report


Sussex Police v Secretary of State for Transport & Anor [2016] EWHC 2280 (QB) (28 September 2016) (http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2016/2280.html)


Section 8

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Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
22nd Nov 2016, 09:45
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Can we just wait for the AAIB report before...

Can we just wait for the AAIB report before reverting back to comments about pilots taking risks, flying on the edge and pushing aircraft.
The AAIB have known since July what the outcome of their...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
18th Nov 2016, 10:42
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Shoreham air crash: Inquest delayed until 'late...

Shoreham air crash: Inquest delayed until 'late 2017' - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-37992625)


latest (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-37992625) news.
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
3rd Nov 2016, 09:36
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Just confused about why as I can see no logical...

Just confused about why as I can see no logical reason by the CAA at this stage. It can't be because of age or all other 'vintage' aircraft would be grounded too. It can't be type or all other...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
2nd Nov 2016, 12:34
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

I was not querying this particular pilots...

I was not querying this particular pilots credentials and capabilities, although others have previously. I was just asking why the CAA slapped the ban on flying Hunters in the 1st place and why it...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
1st Nov 2016, 10:11
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

It is but the big difference is that the police...

It is but the big difference is that the police in the case of air accidents do not have access to it whilst in road accidents they do. They have to ask the AAIB for the item but the agreement...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
17th Oct 2016, 08:04
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

I am presuming the police already of the amateur...

I am presuming the police already of the amateur footage taken by the many spotters watching the show. Therefore the amateur footage taken from inside the aircraft has to be deemed as the effectively...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
5th Oct 2016, 12:10
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Think everyone should read the report on the...

Think everyone should read the report on the crash in the USA. It is clear from this report that there was a lot of 'non-compliance' , complacency and lack of oversight involved from everyone. ...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
30th Sep 2016, 12:40
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Link to MOU between coroner and AIBs ...

Link to MOU between coroner and AIBs


https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/mou-between-the-aibs-and-the-coroners-society


Looks like yet again the AAIB can only provide exactly the...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
30th Sep 2016, 10:03
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

So what evidence does the coroner work with to...

So what evidence does the coroner work with to provide their verdict. I am presuming it will be the evidence to date from the police but do they also use evidence provided by the AAIB such as the...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
29th Sep 2016, 11:06
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

I fear for the families and those still suffering...

I fear for the families and those still suffering either mentally or physically that they will not get a true answer. It will be like the bin lorry incident and the Glasgow police helicopter crash. ...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
28th Sep 2016, 12:42
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

All the experts on here now need to contact...

All the experts on here now need to contact Sussex Police and put themselves forward as 'experts' as the police will need them to help understand the footage plus carry out the theory tests on the...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
15th Sep 2016, 09:05
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Which investigation is being delayed? The AAIB...

Which investigation is being delayed? The AAIB will report when ready(serious ones seem to take 12-18 months at best) after submitting a pre-report to the CPS anyway.


The police obviously...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
14th Sep 2016, 11:14
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Vicarous Liability - interesting area. ...

Vicarous Liability - interesting area.


However, does it cover if the employee has not carried out safety instructions, could this be deemed as an intentional bad act done by the employee and...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
8th Sep 2016, 12:02
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/mou-bet...

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/mou-between-the-aibs-and-the-cps


This may explain the relationship and the agreement of sharing factual information between AAIB and the police or CPS....
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
27th Aug 2016, 08:16
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

No more info than has already been available for...

No more info than has already been available for months in regards to the investigation. Why does it take 3 highly respectable judges nearly 3 months to decide if the Police can have info from the...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
18th Aug 2016, 08:11
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Don't think either have anything to do it with...

Don't think either have anything to do it with it. The Gnat was flying before the report was published. If you go by severity then all Airbus should have been grounded immediately after the...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
16th Aug 2016, 16:42
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

If it is as simple as pilot error as everyone is...

If it is as simple as pilot error as everyone is convinced off, as the 1st AAIB report stated 'the aircraft appeared to be responding to the pilots control' then why have the CAA not lifted the...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
27th Jul 2016, 10:14
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

I wasn't referring to malicious intent like a...

I wasn't referring to malicious intent like a bomb. I was referring to carrying out maintenance and not taking into account or ignoring the full implications. Surely that could be deemed then as...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
26th Jul 2016, 12:44
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

The AAIB are great at what they do but have no...

The AAIB are great at what they do but have no real powers, they are just a neutral voice.
The CAA have the powers that can implement the recommendations of the AAIB, if they see fit.
The police...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
15th Jul 2016, 09:56
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Flying Lawyer - I assumed that as not to...

Flying Lawyer - I assumed that as not to prejudice any case the CPS may or may not have they may be stopped in doing so, same as the coroners inquest or will this still be done in September...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
14th Jul 2016, 12:04
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

John R81 Makes prefect sense after all the...

John R81
Makes prefect sense after all the Police only have part of the information regarding the matter, they need to check the aircraft itself and its records which they don't have access to. ...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
19th Apr 2016, 10:24
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

I had assumed from the interim report published...

I had assumed from the interim report published by the AAIB that it was a preliminary report providing the information gathered from various sources and it should be regarded as tentative and is...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
15th Apr 2016, 11:14
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Think you need to refrain from stating it was a...

Think you need to refrain from stating it was a technique not a failing in the aircraft itself. The AAIB have not published a full or even a more detailed report on the aircraft itself. They have...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
24th Mar 2016, 11:15
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Pre-inquest review hearing has been held....

Pre-inquest review hearing has been held. According to reports the police are asking for release of information gathered by the AAIB to help with their investigations. Does anyone think that this...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
12th Mar 2016, 11:40
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

So reading through that report and the others...

So reading through that report and the others from the AAIB so far. My understanding is as follows:-
The aircraft shouldn't have been flying at all (airshow or otherwise) as the maintenance...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
10th Feb 2016, 09:48
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

So the insurers are 100% certain that the...

So the insurers are 100% certain that the aircraft complied with the ANO then and was fully serviceable at the time.


Even though the AAIB have queried that the aircraft had out of date...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
9th Feb 2016, 12:43
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Swiss Cheese Yes the facts are 'G-BXFI...

Swiss Cheese


Yes the facts are 'G-BXFI crashed killing several people' therefore, the insurers for G-BXFI have paid out under the policy.


Agree with DSC810
The reason for the crash has...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
22nd Jan 2016, 10:08
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Liability

Shoreham airshow crash victims may be in line for huge compensation pay out | Daily Mail Online...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
18th Jan 2016, 10:48
Replies: 1,087
Views: 1,030,772
Posted By Hebog

Pittsextra - I was trying to point out that as we...

Pittsextra - I was trying to point out that as we (the general observers) don't know his planned routine it is difficult to tell if that's what the pilot planned. ie to fly over that intersection on...
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