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Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
7th Mar 2024, 17:28
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Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

Gee, I always thought, when we were doing...

Gee, I always thought, when we were doing non-routine work, that it was especially important to document it in detail. And my systems, although certainly life-safety critical, weren't usually at...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
7th Mar 2024, 08:07
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

Absolutely, although lawyering up won't much...

Absolutely, although lawyering up won't much relieve the pain or reduce the impact of terrible PR when Calhoun has to answer questions about this before the committee on global TV and the interwebs.
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
8th Feb 2024, 23:40
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

I agree. They're strong. But unless the cable tie...

I agree. They're strong. But unless the cable tie was holding the stop pin tightly against its pad, or the pin was tightened into solid contact with the pad, the near end (inboard) of the loop would...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
8th Feb 2024, 23:30
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

That's what I thought.

That's what I thought.
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
8th Feb 2024, 01:44
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

Well, it was secured, more or less, by the 12...

Well, it was secured, more or less, by the 12 stop pins and pads — more when there was a significant pressure differential and, presumably, less when pressure was nearly equalized. I say presumably...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
7th Feb 2024, 02:33
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

Yes, this. I suppose most of us were pretty...

Yes, this. I suppose most of us were pretty sure, pretty quickly, that what happened is what the preliminary report indicates, so no big surprise. But still, you just can't build airplanes this...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
26th Jan 2024, 15:33
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

I'm pretty sure the OP was making a point with...

I'm pretty sure the OP was making a point with humor.
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
24th Jan 2024, 22:21
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

I can't remember coming across or hearing about a...

I can't remember coming across or hearing about a fastener fault that could be corrected with paint.
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
24th Jan 2024, 14:31
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

Isn't the only significant difference the...

Isn't the only significant difference the assertion that it was BCA personnel who removed and replaced (or "merely" opened and closed) the plug? That's not insignificant, certainly, but it doesn't...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
24th Jan 2024, 14:16
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aeros...

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeing-not-spirit-mis-installed-piece-that-blew-off-alaska-max-9-jet/
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
24th Jan 2024, 03:04
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

I don't understand which "additional defect" you...

I don't understand which "additional defect" you mean. Spirit did, according to throwawayboeing, inform Boeing about the damaged seal. I don't think it's Spirit's job to tell Boeing what needs to be...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
24th Jan 2024, 02:46
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

If you had to pick one thing, that would have to...

If you had to pick one thing, that would have to be it.
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
24th Jan 2024, 02:42
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

Exclusive: Boeing presses suppliers on tightening...

Exclusive: Boeing presses suppliers on tightening bolts after loose parts found in 737 MAX 9 checks...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
23rd Jan 2024, 23:45
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

But the Spirit team didn't make the CMES entries...

But the Spirit team didn't make the CMES entries related to the work on the seal and associated "opening" or "removal" of the plug, or determine how it would be characterized. They couldn't, because...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
23rd Jan 2024, 17:55
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

Right. If the reporters want whistleblowers to...

Right. If the reporters want whistleblowers to feel safe, they have to provide much more secure ways to contact and communicate. We know, though, that both the Times reporter and Gates are aware of...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
23rd Jan 2024, 13:46
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

I think your logic is exactly right. And I think...

I think your logic is exactly right. And I think that the problem revealed is a fundamental and extremely serious process failure. Coupled with the (claimed by throwaway) use of a second,...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
23rd Jan 2024, 04:14
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

I've read throwawayboeing's post three times and...

I've read throwawayboeing's post three times and sat quietly thinking about it for a while. If it's all true and accurate, and I ran the FAA, I think I'd suspend the relevant production certificates.
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
23rd Jan 2024, 00:55
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

Wow. That's an indictment. Edit: WRT...

Wow. That's an indictment.

Edit: WRT MechEngr's remark about interested reporters, I note that one of the first comments in response to "throwawayboeing" is by Dominic Gates. We can be certain...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
19th Jan 2024, 23:47
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

See ImbracableCrunk's post of the NTSB B roll at...

See ImbracableCrunk's post of the NTSB B roll at #388. Given the statements by the NTSB cited above, they clearly looked behind the interior panels.
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
19th Jan 2024, 12:16
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

I think we've seen photos or video of the NTSB...

I think we've seen photos or video of the NTSB investigators doing just that. I'll search, unless someone remembers where those can be found.
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
14th Jan 2024, 23:59
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/...

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1234x944/aar_google_maps_2024_01_14_19_05_48_3ef77bf060c355a37943cc3a6fc389d1ea28aac4.png
Grabbed from Google Maps just now....
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
14th Jan 2024, 18:36
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

Right. Looks pretty much like a setup for...

Right. Looks pretty much like a setup for installing the WiFi system.
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
13th Jan 2024, 20:28
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

Yup. If I remember correctly, the woman told the...

Yup. If I remember correctly, the woman told the interviewer that the teen asked for the selfie after they had been communicating for a while (and presumably were beyond the initial shock of the...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
13th Jan 2024, 13:26
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

This, exactly. These plugs aren't intended to be...

This, exactly. These plugs aren't intended to be routinely opened and closed. And, on the probably rare occasions when they are opened and closed, it shouldn't matter whether or not the job can be...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
13th Jan 2024, 13:18
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

If I were hiring independent inspectors to...

If I were hiring independent inspectors to provide quality assurance in the construction of airliners, "literalist pedantic twits" are exactly the people I'd want. They are also the people future...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
12th Jan 2024, 23:53
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

Do we know that? Why would it matter where the...

Do we know that? Why would it matter where the fittings and pins fall when the plug is opened? And why would they fall back behind the pads after the plug is opened to its position leaning away...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
12th Jan 2024, 17:01
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

Well, that's interesting. Presumably, Ace...

Well, that's interesting. Presumably, Ace Airplane Inspections, Inc. would be paid by Boeing, avoiding the problem of prying more money from Congress to increase FAA staffing.

The regulator may...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
11th Jan 2024, 23:58
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

Plugging those exits is for configurations with...

Plugging those exits is for configurations with fewer seats.
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
11th Jan 2024, 21:12
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

The images on the AC story show that at least...

The images on the AC story show that at least three of the four bolts securing each roller guide pin to the fuselage frame are visible when the interior panel is removed (or before it's installed). ...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
11th Jan 2024, 11:36
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

It is semantics. Semantics means "meaning." ...

It is semantics. Semantics means "meaning."



Yup, sure is.



It will be surprising if they get the plug-equipped birds back in the air by then, so at least you won't have that to worry...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
11th Jan 2024, 11:24
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

Rather obviously, the NTSB, like other...

Rather obviously, the NTSB, like other investigators, is unlikely to establish the facts without following leads and hints and considering possibilities. And if PPRuNe dealt only in facts . . ....
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
11th Jan 2024, 03:51
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

From the way Gates phrased his reply, it seems...

From the way Gates phrased his reply, it seems that he's talking about SOP. But he also seems confident and we know that he has extremely good contacts and connections at Boeing. At a minimum, what...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
11th Jan 2024, 02:06
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

In the comments following the Dominic Gates...

In the comments following the Dominic Gates article in the Seattle Times that ozaub linked to, above, Gates pops in to reply to a commenter with this:

"That speculation is not true. Renton does...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
9th Jan 2024, 22:25
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

737 Max Inspections Delayed as Boeing Revises...

737 Max Inspections Delayed as Boeing Revises Guidance (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/09/business/boeing-737-max-9-inspections-delayed.html)The Federal Aviation Administration said that Boeing’s...
Forum: Accidents and Close Calls
8th Jan 2024, 01:52
Replies: 1,950
Views: 935,708
Posted By OldnGrounded

Someone here pointed out that the flying...

Someone here pointed out that the flying door/plug would probably give a clear primary radar return. Yesterday, NTSB Chair Homendy told the press briefing that the door/plug was likely to be found...
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