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2nd Apr 2016, 13:21
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

ACMS

I'm happy that you are able to do this at your airline.

I have been retired awhile, but after seeing a lot of the posts here, I think many rely (and teach reliance) on the automatics too much....
2nd Apr 2016, 13:06
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

Aterpster

Your presumption would be correct. IMHO

I remember the days of flying a PC check and the only time you would use the auto pilot was when the instructor/check airman was reloading glitches in the...
27th Mar 2016, 01:41
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

NYT Article

This is a quote from the NYT article.

"The television channel cited experts who suggested that by turning off the autopilot, the pilots were trying to pull the plane back to a horizontal...
26th Mar 2016, 22:08
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

Mommaklee

Well done and explained.

I think your calculations are pretty close.

They accelerated from 200KTS to 300KTS in about 7 seconds.

Airspeed, Altitude, and ideas are the basic requirements of...
26th Mar 2016, 21:15
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

Mommaklee

How did you calculate the IAS?
26th Mar 2016, 20:55
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

737er

Good points. It's been a long time since I flew the 737, but can remember a few surprises as you mentioned.

I really want to know how it happened so fast.

Regards.
26th Mar 2016, 20:23
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

Xollob

I originally thought this might be a high speed event due to the light airplane with loads of power.

However, I think Dave Reid pointed out that one of the last GS plots was 185KTS. As they...
26th Mar 2016, 17:44
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

Aluminum Shuffler

I understand. Thanks for your clarification.

Regards.
26th Mar 2016, 17:37
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

Anson

You may be on to one of the issues. Here is a quote from the Bournemouth report.

"The trimmed position of the stabiliser, combined with the selection of maximum thrust, overwhelmed the available...
26th Mar 2016, 13:19
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

atrepster

Good question about the noise-canceling headsets.

I used some late in my career and, as I recall, one could still hear pertinent warnings and sounds. This was not on the 737.

The trim wheel and...
25th Mar 2016, 22:10
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

Preemo

As a guess, the 5,000 hour minimum for captain may mean for a direct hire. Since he was there as an F/O, he was probably upgraded sooner based on seniority and/or performance.

Regards.
25th Mar 2016, 19:35
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

Ground Speed

I think the low ground speed is because they were going down steeply and not much movement across the ground.
25th Mar 2016, 14:25
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

Bernd

I realize it was in a simulator, and I agree unrealistic in real flying.

However, something happened very quickly when they went from a positive rate, to level, to a high rate of descent.

Early...
24th Mar 2016, 23:11
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

Threemiles?

Where did the information in your graphs come from?

If I am reading the second GA graph correctly, they went from a positive 4,000 FPM climb to a negative 15,000 FPM in about 6 seconds.

That is...
24th Mar 2016, 22:20
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

Deep Stall

Just for info. Check this video of a deep stall in the 737.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkYXhLwlHrg
24th Mar 2016, 20:01
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

45 Seconds

On the very good graph posted by threemiles, it looks like something catastrophic happened about 45 seconds after they started the GA

I'm using the starting point of 2470 seconds to 2515 where the...
24th Mar 2016, 12:29
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

Threemiles

I think you are going in the right direction.

The 737 when it is light will really accelerate quickly.

Maybe flaps/slats were not retracted and failed?

Maybe they were retracted as the...
23rd Mar 2016, 20:22
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

Info on video

This video link was posted earlier.

Is it just me, or does the aircraft seem level/normal coming out of the overcast, then take a sharp break to the ground?
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22nd Mar 2016, 23:30
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

Video Post #471

Their landing lights are visible from 03:44:55 until they are in the GA at 03:45:25. About 30 seconds.

They are in the clouds again until 03:35:57. About 32 seconds. That's a long time. In a...
21st Mar 2016, 01:52
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

Airbubba

It's been awhile...I think your scenario would be correct.

If they had 2260 set, and turned the "automation" back on, the throttles would go to idle. The nose should drop, but it may have been too...
20th Mar 2016, 20:52
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

EternalNY1

I lean toward the stall scenario. The news media rarely have their information correct.

The Somatogravic Illusion may be a factor, but that has been around for years in various terms.

I flew...
20th Mar 2016, 20:24
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Posted By Old Boeing Driver

Wrist Watch

In looking at the graphics from posts 37 and 107, it appears they made a slightly steep go around and quickly made a very steep descent to the ground.

I think your 90 degree comment is correct.
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