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Forum: Tech Log

3rd Dec 2011, 20:02

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AF 447 Thread No. 7

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Posted By Zorin_75

In the 60's Bernard Ziegler's F84 collided with...

In the 60's Bernard Ziegler's F84 collided with the line of a cable car in the Alps, killing 6 people. It's routinely dragged out to serve as proof that anything Airbus is inherently evil. Link...

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25th Nov 2011, 18:53

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AF 447 Thread No. 7

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Posted By Zorin_75

Dozy, what MB is getting at is, rational thinking...

Dozy, what MB is getting at is, rational thinking provided, the marginal effect of speedbrake deployment could have told them that they were very slow. It didn't look much like a methodic attempt at...

Forum: Tech Log

17th Nov 2011, 18:58

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AF 447 Thread No. 7

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Posted By Zorin_75

Maybe. But please don't disregard the THS...

Maybe. But please don't disregard the THS arriving at the stops was preceded by almost a minute of ignoring a stall warning as well as what most would have considered basic airmanship...

Dani...

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17th Nov 2011, 15:05

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AF 447 Thread No. 7

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Posted By Zorin_75

Because they were trying to get the nose down for...

Because they were trying to get the nose down for four minutes but autotrim didn't let them?

Forum: Tech Log

17th Nov 2011, 01:53

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AF 447 Thread No. 7

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Posted By Zorin_75

Machinbird, without getting into the realism...

Machinbird,

without getting into the realism of your ideas - during their whole descent, they never even got to down elevator, so nothing weird is needed for the ths not to move...

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11th Nov 2011, 07:13

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AF 447 Thread No. 7

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Posted By Zorin_75

So let's get to the point. Is it your opinion...

So let's get to the point.
Is it your opinion the pilots were trying to do the right thing but the flight control computers, "HAL" if you insist, grabbed their arm and didn't let them?
If so,...

Forum: Tech Log

10th Nov 2011, 14:53

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AF 447 Thread No. 7

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Posted By Zorin_75

According to this Stalled AF447 did not switch to...

According to this Stalled AF447 did not switch to abnormal attitude law (http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/stalled-af447-did-not-switch-to-abnormal-attitude-law-357394/)
BEA says abnormal...

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10th Nov 2011, 06:20

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AF 447 Thread No. 7

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Posted By Zorin_75

Oh my. I can't believe we're debating again...

Oh my.

I can't believe we're debating again what flight law they were in. :ugh:

Forum: Tech Log

9th Nov 2011, 18:48

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AF 447 Thread No. 7

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Posted By Zorin_75

Roll control is direct law, stick position ->...

Roll control is direct law, stick position -> surface position.

Forum: Tech Log

8th Nov 2011, 11:30

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AF 447 Thread No. 7

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Posted By Zorin_75

:confused: Dozy's saying that it was even...

:confused: Dozy's saying that it was even stronger than he'd expected... It does. And it would be clearly evident on the CVR, wouldn't it?

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