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Forum: Tech Log

5th Nov 2011, 10:26

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

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Posted By aerobat77

"What made him pull must be brought to light." ...

"What made him pull must be brought to light."

i think it will never be. the pilot will not tell you why he pulled and any data recordings can only answer what he did, not why he did this.

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29th Oct 2011, 11:03

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

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Posted By aerobat77

"What else than lack of lift => lack of speed can...

"What else than lack of lift => lack of speed can cause falling that bird so fast from the sky? Did they believe that they are in a dive/overspeed situation? "

well, like by many times written...

Forum: Tech Log

28th Oct 2011, 06:52

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

Views: 407,664

Posted By aerobat77

@ linktrained : i think applying TOGA in FL...

@ linktrained : i think applying TOGA in FL 350-380 in a non event, the engines by far do not develop the thrust they do in sealevel and are running at this altitude already close to the max...

Forum: Tech Log

27th Oct 2011, 21:00

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

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Posted By aerobat77

"I've heard that stall recognition and recovery...

"I've heard that stall recognition and recovery is no longer required to get a PPL here in the states (someone on the forum will know). It's because many people are not as fascinated with flying as...

Forum: Tech Log

27th Oct 2011, 10:00

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

Views: 407,664

Posted By aerobat77

so to say it straight and level : they steered...

so to say it straight and level : they steered AF447 in an area with high convective acitivity where pitot tubes became blocked and some systems ( mostly AP and AT) became inop. also the stall...

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26th Oct 2011, 21:51

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

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Posted By aerobat77

"Aerobat77, I think commercial pilots flying...

"Aerobat77, I think commercial pilots flying passengers should also "fullfill the mission at every price". That mission is to get the passengers back on the ground safely."

in regards to bring...

Forum: Tech Log

26th Oct 2011, 21:17

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

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Posted By aerobat77

"None of the pilots flying AF447 had military...

"None of the pilots flying AF447 had military flying backgrounds. In the past, airlines could rely on a supply of military trained pilots"

well... fighter pilots, with all respect- are trained to...

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26th Oct 2011, 17:33

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

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Posted By aerobat77

hm... from the last words "but whats happening?"...

hm... from the last words "but whats happening?" you can imagine they did not knew until impact they are stalled. when you have a high pitch up and simultany a massive descend rate ( more than 10000...

Forum: Tech Log

26th Oct 2011, 09:41

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

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Posted By aerobat77

i think the PNF knew that the PF gave upstick...

i think the PNF knew that the PF gave upstick inputs since - when the publication of the last conversation is true- the PF stated that he pulled back full for a while. and does the ac not have a...

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25th Oct 2011, 18:26

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

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Posted By aerobat77

on the one hand it surely sounds crazy that three...

on the one hand it surely sounds crazy that three people were not able to realize a stalled situation and recover from this high altitude. we could think that everybody of us would have done better. ...

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