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Forum: Tech Log

6th Jul 2010, 11:58

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Descending once cleared for approach

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Posted By spud3

Jeehell, IIRC, we were direct a vor at...

Jeehell,

IIRC, we were direct a vor at first, then cleared (or perhaps "route Kelon") to Kelon, all while in descent to FL 80. Cleared for app I think before we levelled at 80, perhaps after. ...

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5th Jul 2010, 14:46

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Descending once cleared for approach

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Posted By spud3

While the FAA deals with it explicity, so do...

While the FAA deals with it explicity, so do Canadian authorities, although in an opposite way.

Jeppesen Airway Manual, Air Traffic Control, State Rules and Procedures, Canada
clearance for an...

Forum: Tech Log

5th Jul 2010, 13:44

Replies: 79

Descending once cleared for approach

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Posted By spud3

Flown-it. Thanks but I wasn't looking for...

Flown-it. Thanks but I wasn't looking for aircraft flight director handling techniques or equivalent. I was looking for a yes, or a no. And, preferably, an icao reference.

Surely there must be...

Forum: Tech Log

5th Jul 2010, 13:35

Replies: 79

Descending once cleared for approach

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Posted By spud3

. Bookworm, are you suggesting that atc is...

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Bookworm, are you suggesting that atc is meaning descent at pilots discretion? If so, are pilots then permitted in the UK to use the MSA in determining their safe altitudea?

Forum: Tech Log

5th Jul 2010, 13:27

Replies: 79

Descending once cleared for approach

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Posted By spud3

Thanks for the replies. As the OP, please let me...

Thanks for the replies. As the OP, please let me reinterate that the ONLY question I had was on whether it is permissable in France to descent to the 25 mile MSA altitude when off airways/route...

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4th Jul 2010, 13:04

Replies: 79

Descending once cleared for approach

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Posted By spud3

Mig3, we were in descent to FL 80 and told to...

Mig3, we were in descent to FL 80 and told to proceed direct to an iaf, and we were not on an arrival. Immediately after that we were cleared for an approach well before reaching the iaf. In...

Forum: Tech Log

3rd Jul 2010, 23:16

Replies: 79

Descending once cleared for approach

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Posted By spud3

Intruder, I wasn't on a vector, and "maintain...

Intruder, I wasn't on a vector, and "maintain last assigned altitude" til on a portion of the instrument procedure **I think** might be a USA only requirement. Not sure.

Where does it say I can...

Forum: Tech Log

3rd Jul 2010, 22:59

Replies: 79

Descending once cleared for approach

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Posted By spud3

In my situation there was no arrival. Originally...

In my situation there was no arrival. Originally we were enroute, I think direct the airport or the vor on the field. Then atc gave us direct the iaf.

Potkettle, I looked up your example, however...

Forum: Tech Log

3rd Jul 2010, 17:49

Replies: 79

Descending once cleared for approach

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Posted By spud3

Descending once cleared for approach

My first post, here goes. On a recent Europe trip, we were descending to FL 80, proceeding as directed to an iaf at a French airport. Then we were cleared for the ils approach. Is it ICAO procedures...

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