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15th Nov 2017, 16:23
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Posted By Tay Cough

I would imagine that when the pilot checked the...

I would imagine that when the pilot checked the paperwork (I believe historic jet ops mirror RAF processes - F700 equivalent) and also saw the aircraft had a valid Permit, not unreasonably, he...
7th Nov 2017, 20:53
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Posted By Tay Cough

There must not be a prosecution for prosecution’s...

There must not be a prosecution for prosecution’s sake. One hopes the CPS will put the Chief Constable in his place if it gets that far.
12th Jun 2017, 21:39
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Posted By Tay Cough

To whom? Apart from you of course. ...

To whom? Apart from you of course.



Recklessness, negligence or some other circumstance beyond the control of the pilot.
7th Jun 2017, 12:00
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Posted By Tay Cough

Probably because they didn't consider it to be...

Probably because they didn't consider it to be relevant.
29th Mar 2017, 15:05
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Posted By Tay Cough

Surely then it's also worth arguing that the...

Surely then it's also worth arguing that the "officially designated display area" includes the official crowd line and sterile area behind that which is nominally "not dangerous" - as the rules have...
19th Mar 2017, 00:52
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Views: 551,762
Posted By Tay Cough

Am I being picky? Radar is radar. The run in WAS...

Am I being picky? Radar is radar. The run in WAS along the line denoted by the radar hits (obviously?). According to the AAIB video, the green line shows where it should have been.

The pull-up was...
18th Mar 2017, 21:51
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Posted By Tay Cough

Really? There is of course the possibility...

Really?

There is of course the possibility that he realised full well that he hadn't achieved his gate and was physically unable to do anything about it until it was too late, at which point he...
14th Mar 2017, 18:12
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Posted By Tay Cough

From the comments on this thread by Hunter...

From the comments on this thread by Hunter pilots, the AAIB may be mistaken.
14th Mar 2017, 17:16
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Posted By Tay Cough

For Pete's sake. It's on the previous page. That...

For Pete's sake. It's on the previous page. That is the normal Hunter technique.
14th Mar 2017, 13:32
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Posted By Tay Cough

You say you have no agenda. The AAIB comment...

You say you have no agenda.

The AAIB comment on the take-off but have no issues with it.

North Weald jet operators say a downwind take-off is not unusual.

An experienced Hunter pilot (sika...
11th Mar 2017, 16:52
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Posted By Tay Cough

There was a suggestion on the original Shoreham...

There was a suggestion on the original Shoreham thread that this could have been to minimise taxi time as the Hunter hangar was close to the threshold of that runway and it would have avoided a...
11th Mar 2017, 15:08
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Views: 551,762
Posted By Tay Cough

Too low and too slow is the "what". With the...

Too low and too slow is the "what". With the greatest respect, no-one really needed the AAIB to tell them that.

We still need a "why", which the AAIB are normally pretty good at but seem to be...
11th Mar 2017, 07:39
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Posted By Tay Cough

It would. I remain concerned as to why there is...

It would. I remain concerned as to why there is barely a passing mention of anything "medical" in the final report.
8th Mar 2017, 21:35
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Views: 551,762
Posted By Tay Cough

My eyes. Compare the video of the Bray display...

My eyes. Compare the video of the Bray display for example with one of Shoreham.
8th Mar 2017, 20:56
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Views: 551,762
Posted By Tay Cough

John F, Logical but that still doesn't...

John F,



Logical but that still doesn't explain why:

1) Thrust was reduced during the manoeuvre - surely if full thrust is the order of the day in a Hunter, it certainly would be in a JP?
...
8th Mar 2017, 10:07
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Views: 551,762
Posted By Tay Cough

It's common to do an inverted check prior to a...

It's common to do an inverted check prior to a display or practice. The report confirms that AH did this.
7th Mar 2017, 20:39
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Views: 551,762
Posted By Tay Cough

... or in the right place. Yep, but...

... or in the right place.



Yep, but the static system doesn't affect the pull up location and that was also out by a margin, although few people seem to have noticed.
7th Mar 2017, 07:42
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Views: 551,762
Posted By Tay Cough

I'd be extremely surprised if a display pilot of...

I'd be extremely surprised if a display pilot of AH's experience didn't have a backup plan. Specifically, the report details AH's own discussion of gates and what he would do if he failed to achieve...
6th Mar 2017, 18:10
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Views: 551,762
Posted By Tay Cough

True enough, although the video shows what was...

True enough, although the video shows what was probably intended to happen at Shoreham.
6th Mar 2017, 17:31
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Posted By Tay Cough

funfly, Found this. Same pilot, same...

funfly,



Found this. Same pilot, same aircraft, a couple of weeks earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P2TV2HZUss
6th Mar 2017, 12:51
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Views: 551,762
Posted By Tay Cough

Having read the XX179 report in the past (I had...

Having read the XX179 report in the past (I had worked with the accident pilot's father), it's interesting to note that the structure of the MAA report findings is very methodical as to whether it...
5th Mar 2017, 07:12
Replies: 1,109
Views: 551,762
Posted By Tay Cough

You missed "why did a highly experienced display...

You missed "why did a highly experienced display pilot initiate the manoeuvre a mile or so too early and go completely off his planned axis?"

I'm sure there's a video on the Tube of You showing...
4th Mar 2017, 18:09
Replies: 1,109
Views: 551,762
Posted By Tay Cough

sika, Easy to miss, then seemingly...

sika,




Easy to miss, then seemingly not considered further...

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