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Forum: Tech Log

30th Oct 2011, 20:43

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

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Posted By Coagie

worried SLF: Because it's unbelievible that none...

worried SLF: Because it's unbelievible that none of the three pilots knew what they were doing. Admitting that these three were incompetent is difficult, because their incompetence tarnishes a...

Forum: Tech Log

29th Oct 2011, 03:03

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

Views: 405,835

Posted By Coagie

Thermostat, Having been a more than competent...

Thermostat, Having been a more than competent pilot, If you won't agree that there wasn't enough airspeed for the elevators to work, once AF447 was stalled, would you agree that the 3 pilots involved...

Forum: Tech Log

28th Oct 2011, 21:36

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

Views: 405,835

Posted By Coagie

Thermostat, there was still enough airspeed for...

Thermostat, there was still enough airspeed for the elevators to get a grip. You should read through the different threads over the last few months and read the BEA report. I'm sure you'd understand...

Forum: Tech Log

27th Oct 2011, 19:09

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

Views: 405,835

Posted By Coagie

Christiaanj, I've heard that stall...

Christiaanj,
I've heard that stall recognition and recovery is no longer required to get a PPL here in the states (someone on the forum will know). It's because many people are not as...

Forum: Tech Log

27th Oct 2011, 06:30

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

Views: 405,835

Posted By Coagie

Just filtering out the slack jawed, spastic...

Just filtering out the slack jawed, spastic student pilots would help a lot and not add much to training costs. I agree that real time, push the envelope, training is too costly, but trainers can get...

Forum: Tech Log

26th Oct 2011, 22:23

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

Views: 405,835

Posted By Coagie

Aerobat77, military pilots are trained to not...

Aerobat77, military pilots are trained to not wreck the millions of dollars worth of aircraft they are flying. This helps in civilian passenger service in that, if the aircraft isn't wrecked, there...

Forum: Tech Log

26th Oct 2011, 21:42

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

Views: 405,835

Posted By Coagie

Dani, commercial aviation has long been a...

Dani, commercial aviation has long been a worldwide industry, so what happens over there, and what happens over here, have much to do with eachother. Our trends end up accross the water and vice...

Forum: Tech Log

26th Oct 2011, 21:22

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

Views: 405,835

Posted By Coagie

Aerobat77, I think commercial pilots flying...

Aerobat77, I think commercial pilots flying passengers should also "fullfill the mission at every price". That mission is to get the passengers back on the ground safely.

Forum: Tech Log

26th Oct 2011, 21:18

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

Views: 405,835

Posted By Coagie

I don't think bean counters (accountants) get...

I don't think bean counters (accountants) get into CRM, etc. They mainly want to keep the numbers in their ledgers low.
The main reason airlines don't rely on military pilots as much as in the past,...

Forum: Tech Log

26th Oct 2011, 21:00

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

Views: 405,835

Posted By Coagie

I hope the three AF447 pilots aren't an example...

I hope the three AF447 pilots aren't an example of "better" CRM skills! Guess I struck a nerve.

Forum: Tech Log

26th Oct 2011, 20:13

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AF 447 Thread No. 6

Views: 405,835

Posted By Coagie

None of the pilots flying AF447 had military...

None of the pilots flying AF447 had military flying backgrounds. In the past, airlines could rely on a supply of military trained pilots. Now, most of the commercial transport pilots have no military...

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