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Forum: Tech Log
7th Apr 2012, 05:31
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Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Diagnostic If I may I will focus on the...

Diagnostic
If I may I will focus on the training aspect of your posts. This does not mean that I disregard the CRM and SOP issues. The question would be is the new warning necessarily going to...
Forum: Tech Log
7th Apr 2012, 01:51
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Diagnostic Everything keeps on coming back to...

Diagnostic
Everything keeps on coming back to training, SOPs and CRM. Supposing the crew were surprised then training should kick in. A pause, a scan of the instrument panel (and remember the only...
Forum: Tech Log
6th Apr 2012, 04:01
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Diagnostic To clarify my rather hasty response...

Diagnostic
To clarify my rather hasty response - the point I am trying to make is that a change in the interface is not necessarily going to result in a future avoidance of this kind of accident. It...
Forum: Tech Log
6th Apr 2012, 00:49
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Diagnostic I am afraid we are still faced with...

Diagnostic
I am afraid we are still faced with the question of why? It does still come down to the individual crew. It is something that I learned flying replica biplanes (note that I have never...
Forum: Tech Log
5th Apr 2012, 09:40
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

I still remain to be convinced by the man/machine...

I still remain to be convinced by the man/machine interface explanation. We are running the danger of over-generalising from one specific example. Nothing points to a problem with the interface -...
Forum: Tech Log
2nd Apr 2012, 04:41
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Machinbird I am still not convinced by this...

Machinbird
I am still not convinced by this deskilling you write about. So far what seems to have been discussed is a perception that this is the case which may be widely shared but is just that - a...
Forum: Tech Log
2nd Apr 2012, 01:11
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Jcjeant But as a function of the number of...

Jcjeant
But as a function of the number of flights - human error is decreasing. The number of HE accidents remains fairly consistent but the number of flights have grown significantly. Partially...
Forum: Tech Log
2nd Apr 2012, 00:00
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Machinebird Sorry for the delay in responding...

Machinebird
Sorry for the delay in responding but I would submit that what you were writing about is the perception not the actuality. Some commentators are adopting a them and us approach - pilots...
Forum: Tech Log
1st Apr 2012, 07:31
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

I rather think we need to be very careful in...

I rather think we need to be very careful in talking about 'deteriorating skills' because of increased automation. A cursuory examination of past accidents will show many, many examples of where...
Forum: Tech Log
30th Mar 2012, 04:09
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Clandestino If I can perhaps explain further...

Clandestino
If I can perhaps explain further the situation is a lot more complex than my sentence indicates at first glance. A significant factor in all this is that the training and cultural...
Forum: Tech Log
28th Mar 2012, 08:08
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

RR NDB The reference is to the non too...

RR NDB
The reference is to the non too disguised attempt by some to attribute the accident or parts of the accident to the machine and not the human, cultural, management and training issues. One,...
Forum: Tech Log
28th Mar 2012, 00:44
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Lyman I am not sure of the relevance of your...

Lyman
I am not sure of the relevance of your comments here. The phrases you quote are taken out of context and should be read in conjunction with the rest of the transcript (further on in the report...
Forum: Tech Log
26th Mar 2012, 23:58
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

I gave up reading this thread thinking everything...

I gave up reading this thread thinking everything had been discussed to death and that the primacy of the pilots in the accident had been fully understood. Unfortunately it refuses to die. All...
Forum: Tech Log
23rd Dec 2011, 01:40
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Machinbird My apologies for the...

Machinbird
My apologies for the misunderstanding
My comment was not meant to attribute a judgement on the PF or other flight crew's personal characteristics but on the flight deck performance. For...
Forum: Tech Log
22nd Dec 2011, 06:28
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Organfreak ..However, PIO seems to be a...

Organfreak
..However, PIO seems to be a phenomenon which affects small manoeuverable aircraft MORE than civil airliners (referencing the database in the Aristotel article).

Machinbird
I do...
Forum: Tech Log
22nd Dec 2011, 04:04
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Machinbird It has indeed been a fascinating...

Machinbird
It has indeed been a fascinating discussion but I would still question the involvement of PIO in this case. The sageburner accident is indeed interesting but is it relevant? A high speed...
Forum: Tech Log
21st Dec 2011, 00:30
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Machinbird + ChristiaanJ The choice is to act...

Machinbird + ChristiaanJ
The choice is to act or to delay your action. There is a belief that by acting quickly you can deal with the problem (and this is indeed the case in some situations) but...
Forum: Tech Log
20th Dec 2011, 21:59
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Machinbird I don't think we'll agree on this...

Machinbird
I don't think we'll agree on this and to my mind it's because of a fundamental difference in the way we're looking at things. I am looking at the actions of the PF as those of a being...
Forum: Tech Log
20th Dec 2011, 11:17
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Machinbird 'throughout the flight, the...

Machinbird

'throughout the flight, the movements of the elevators and the THS were consistent with the pilot’s input'
BEA Third Interim Report

It is important to recall that the pilot was...
Forum: Tech Log
20th Dec 2011, 05:08
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

“The design process of the airplane has matured,...

“The design process of the airplane has matured, flight control systems have evolved, criteria and analysis techniques are available, yet PIO persists.”

Certainly it does but that is because it is...
Forum: Tech Log
20th Dec 2011, 02:26
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Machinbird If you will forgive me the use of my...

Machinbird
If you will forgive me the use of my favourite metaphor; that is a particularly juicy red herring. Just because most of the flying may be done in Normal Law doesn't mean that no flying is...
Forum: Tech Log
20th Dec 2011, 01:32
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Machinbird Sounds rather 'Camelish' (the said...

Machinbird
Sounds rather 'Camelish' (the said biplane used to pull to the right due to the torque of its Bentley engine). Are you saying that the control response is tardy and that the pilot's...
Forum: Tech Log
19th Dec 2011, 22:14
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Machinbird I have stated earlier that I see...

Machinbird
I have stated earlier that I see merit in your suggestion but that I see it on a mechanistic level - an explanation of how the phenomenon worked but not a casual factor. This is my main...
Forum: Tech Log
19th Dec 2011, 10:48
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

This article seems to define the phenomenon as...

This article seems to define the phenomenon as being anything that authors wish it to be. The evidence is shakey and in some places totally worthless and someone has clearly wasted money...
Forum: Tech Log
18th Dec 2011, 22:33
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Sadly for those who would like to believe so we...

Sadly for those who would like to believe so we have no evidence that the accident was caused by anything other than pilot actions. Furthermore, this evidence is not likely to be faked or incomplete....
Forum: Tech Log
15th Dec 2011, 22:53
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

BEA have actually done a fine job and having...

BEA have actually done a fine job and having found the FDR and CVR have identified the causes of the accident. This happens to be the flight crew sad to say. Attempts to involved the machine are just...
Forum: Tech Log
15th Dec 2011, 09:08
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Machinbird I see what you're driving at now and...

Machinbird
I see what you're driving at now and as a mechanical explanation of the exact process it certainly has merits. However, I suspect that the reaction of the PF would have manifested itself...
Forum: Tech Log
14th Dec 2011, 23:51
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Machinbird Whilst I do not doubt the phenomenon...

Machinbird
Whilst I do not doubt the phenomenon exists I was reading your post as an indication that you believed the design of the sidestick played a part for inducing the oscillations. This is...
Forum: Tech Log
13th Dec 2011, 04:13
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

I must confess a certain scepticism about such a...

I must confess a certain scepticism about such a suggestion. It suggests, to my mind, an unfamiliarity with the controls worthy of a tyro which whatever his reactions I don't think we can claim the...
Forum: Tech Log
23rd Nov 2011, 15:33
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Machinbird Your post touches the issue of CRM...

Machinbird
Your post touches the issue of CRM as well as training very nicely. A proper division of responsibilities and teamwork come into play. These don't seem to have been present in this...
Forum: Tech Log
23rd Nov 2011, 06:53
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

TTex600 I think that Jekyll and Hyde is a bit...

TTex600
I think that Jekyll and Hyde is a bit too much to describe an A330. I'm certain that it's not that bad. Iomapaseo sums the situation up excellently. Any airliner would have ended up in the...
Forum: Tech Log
23rd Nov 2011, 03:15
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

Machinbird I totally agree with what you say...

Machinbird
I totally agree with what you say and I hate to think what a mess I would make of a night landing. However, training or lack of it is part of the human factor equation. As you mention...
Forum: Tech Log
23rd Nov 2011, 00:11
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

TTex600 Once again it comes down to human...

TTex600
Once again it comes down to human factors - know your machine and how to deal with issues. This was lacking. No aircraft is perfect and despite the current machines being far superior to...
Forum: Tech Log
22nd Nov 2011, 10:12
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

If we speculate on the PFs mental state (always a...

If we speculate on the PFs mental state (always a dangerous thing) I think we have to assume that he had only one thing in mind. All other information which might have contradicted this view was...
Forum: Tech Log
20th Nov 2011, 04:29
Replies: 1,353
Views: 300,004
Posted By Old Carthusian

If I misinterpret Lyman I apologise but I rather...

If I misinterpret Lyman I apologise but I rather think he is driving at one of two things. Firstly, a problem with the pitot tubes in which case UAS procedure pertains. Otherwise, failure to follow...
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