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Forum: Tech Log
2nd Feb 2021, 14:08
Replies: 114
Views: 28,309
Posted By gums

Thanks to Bergerie for hosting this thread on the...

Thanks to Bergerie for hosting this thread on the subject. I was disappointed when the Mods froze all the 737 threads, as I am a curious type and wanted to learn about the development of the MCAS. I...
Forum: Tech Log
1st Feb 2021, 18:17
Replies: 114
Views: 28,309
Posted By gums

TNX, Bergerie.... I would really like to...

TNX, Bergerie....

I would really like to have FAA or the European cert folks explain how the Airbus FBW was certified, but the 737 had to meet some formula about control force versus AoA or Gee...
Forum: Tech Log
1st Feb 2021, 15:46
Replies: 114
Views: 28,309
Posted By gums

Salute! Outstanding discussion and analysis...

Salute!

Outstanding discussion and analysis by fdr. love it

Other than many posts concerning the aerodynamic solutions other than the kludge MCAS, I still need someone to explain how the 'bus...
Forum: Tech Log
17th Jan 2021, 01:30
Replies: 114
Views: 28,309
Posted By gums

@ zzuf, YOU SWINE!!!

@ zzuf,

YOU SWINE!!!
Forum: Tech Log
16th Jan 2021, 15:26
Replies: 114
Views: 28,309
Posted By gums

Thanks, PEI. My view is we are experiencing...

Thanks, PEI.

My view is we are experiencing an epoch of old tech mixed with new tech, but still have to deal with basic, fundamental laws of physics and aerodynamics.

Many of the younger folks...
Forum: Tech Log
16th Jan 2021, 12:52
Replies: 114
Views: 28,309
Posted By gums

Thanks a bunch, ZZ you too, Detent. I am remiss...

Thanks a bunch, ZZ you too, Detent.
I am remiss by not going back to all the AF447 data and such to see the gradients.
My main point about discussing FBW is too many folks do not understand exactly...
Forum: Tech Log
15th Jan 2021, 22:40
Replies: 114
Views: 28,309
Posted By gums

Thank you, Detent. You have opened the door we...

Thank you, Detent. You have opened the door we had here long ago.

You have described the basis of the problem most folks have RE: FBW



The situation 25 years ago with the ;bus ( most widely...
Forum: Tech Log
15th Jan 2021, 20:21
Replies: 114
Views: 28,309
Posted By gums

Thanks, TD...... I got the impression from...

Thanks, TD......

I got the impression from the Boeing "mole" who I will not name but you can see many posts if we have not deleted them.

If you move that big stab you get a ton of change in...
Forum: Tech Log
15th Jan 2021, 17:50
Replies: 114
Views: 28,309
Posted By gums

We went thru this a few years back RVF. The...

We went thru this a few years back RVF.

The mods closed the threads to new posts.

Unless they deleted all the posts, you may find some stuff there, but the basic rational was aero fixes deleted...
Forum: Tech Log
14th Jan 2021, 01:27
Replies: 114
Views: 28,309
Posted By gums

For all to see, PEI and Gums can discuss some of...

For all to see, PEI and Gums can discuss some of the fine points about design and aero without calling names and raising cultural aspects of aviation.

We both share some "exciting:" times in...
Forum: Tech Log
13th Jan 2021, 19:59
Replies: 114
Views: 28,309
Posted By gums

Thanks, TD The assumption that MCAS loss of...

Thanks, TD

The assumption that MCAS loss of sanity would be seen as runaway trim is one thing that bugs me. Most runaway trim would not be corrected by beeping the trim switches on the yoke,...
Forum: Tech Log
13th Jan 2021, 16:32
Replies: 114
Views: 28,309
Posted By gums

Far being for me to debate a certified test pilot...

Far being for me to debate a certified test pilot with all the degrees and actual diplomas from the "schools".

I cannot find the "#13" ref document.... I gave up looking for technical,...
Forum: Tech Log
12th Jan 2021, 22:00
Replies: 114
Views: 28,309
Posted By gums

Awww man, this statement bugs me: The...

Awww man, this statement bugs me:



The MCAS implementation was not some gentle input to the existing column "feel". Good grief. It put in gobs of nose down trim and did it for "x" bumps and...
Forum: Tech Log
12th Jan 2021, 12:56
Replies: 114
Views: 28,309
Posted By gums

Good point, Bergerie. Unfortunately, when I...

Good point, Bergerie.
Unfortunately, when I looked at the FAA requirements, they were more than simply "feel" as Uplinker asks.

It was an actual aerodynamic criteria that required MCAS, hence...
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