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Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 13:26
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By nitpicker330

Bloggs......Hang on a sec, on a normal aircraft...

Bloggs......Hang on a sec, on a normal aircraft if you thought you had an overspeed and pulled back on the stick you would most likely also trim back to assist as well.

In this case as the Pilot...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 12:16
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By nitpicker330

It's happened before and they survived. We...

It's happened before and they survived.

We don't yet know all the details of this accident, what the Pilots were thinking
or exactly what Law this Aircraft was in.

Indeed the whole Flight...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 11:51
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By nitpicker330

Bloggs:-- I've had another read of your...

Bloggs:--

I've had another read of your post.

If all the Pitot tubes iced up evenly together and there was no immediate discrepancy between the 3 ADR's then the Flight controls may well stay in...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 11:28
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Posted By nitpicker330

yeah Bloggs I agree with you. I guess Airbus...

yeah Bloggs I agree with you. I guess Airbus thought an A330 wouldn't get that slow in the air!!
A simple thing to re program I would think.

It's still complicated though because as they fell...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 11:22
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By nitpicker330

Lemain....No, under Normal law the computers use...

Lemain....No, under Normal law the computers use all available info to determine the stall AOA. As written above.....

On AF 47 there was a discrepancy between the ADR's ( some or all iced pitots)...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 10:54
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Posted By nitpicker330

Aston........Yes it's ok to look up for fun value...

Aston........Yes it's ok to look up for fun value where time permits.
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 10:48
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Posted By nitpicker330

The Aircraft went into Alternate law as a result...

The Aircraft went into Alternate law as a result of the iced pitot tubes.
In Alternate and Direct Law the stall warning is now based on AOA only as the computers recognize the IAS may be wrong (...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 10:27
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Posted By nitpicker330

The Airbus book says that whilst in Alternate or...

The Airbus book says that whilst in Alternate or Direct Law to rely on any Stall warnings as they now are based on AOA only.

So you should carry out the approved Stall recovery actions as...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 09:57
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Posted By nitpicker330

I've spent way too much of my life in the cockpit...

I've spent way too much of my life in the cockpit of the 330 777 etc and believe me there is a big difference in noise levels over the speed range. 60 KIAS to 250 KIAS would be a lot quieter....
...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 09:49
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By nitpicker330

Airbus and Boeing stall recovery now...

Airbus and Boeing stall recovery now specifies:---

1/ Immediate action to Reduce AOA to un-stall the wing
Then
2/ Secondary action to increase thrust to recover energy levels back to normal.
...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 09:42
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Posted By nitpicker330

Yes it may work if you have enough Altitude left...

Yes it may work if you have enough Altitude left to pull out without over stressing the wings. Certainly in their position worth a try perhaps.

But a 200 tonne Airbus heading downhill at 10,000...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 09:27
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By nitpicker330

Yes and a very quiet cockpit with very low air...

Yes and a very quiet cockpit with very low air noise.
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 09:18
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By nitpicker330

Further that Low speed stability protection ...

Further that Low speed stability protection change from AOA to Airspeed based and the symbols on the speed tape change from Alpha prot /Alpha max to Vsw.
With the flaps/slats in use and 5 to 10 kts...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 09:05
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By nitpicker330

I've just been trying to read through FCOM 1...

I've just been trying to read through FCOM 1 Flight controls reversion section. After i took a headache pill I found that following any ADR disagree reversion to ALT LAW the protections lost are:-
...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 08:53
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By nitpicker330

Ah what I expect to see if I bother to look is...

Ah what I expect to see if I bother to look is the current AOA of my Aircraft?? I don't understand your comment.?
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 08:29
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By nitpicker330

Guess what, to activate the BUSS you need to turn...

Guess what, to activate the BUSS you need to turn off all 3 ADR's P/B's
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 08:02
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Posted By nitpicker330

So in Cruise or other low activity times am I not...

So in Cruise or other low activity times am I not allowed to look down to my right and use the CMC display on the centre CDU? You might as well remove it then!!

Please re read my post, i did say...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 07:56
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By nitpicker330

Yes we know that thanks. Actually if you...

Yes we know that thanks.

Actually if you have time ( they didn't ) you can call up AOA in the CMC maintenance pages.
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 07:50
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By nitpicker330

well I think it reasonable to expect that this...

well I think it reasonable to expect that this crew might have ignored that piece of information ( AOA display ) just like they ignored 3 fully serviceable BIG ATTITUDE INDICATORS right in front of...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 07:44
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By nitpicker330

An experienced crew would know for their a/c:-- ...

An experienced crew would know for their a/c:--

1/ what pitch attitude they must fly AND WHAT IS NOT NORMAL
2/ what thrust setting they must fly AND WHAT IS NOT NORMAL
3/ What noise levels...
Forum: Tech Log
30th May 2011, 07:23
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,665,199
Posted By nitpicker330

They didn't need an AOA display on their PFD to...

They didn't need an AOA display on their PFD to fly the Aircraft.

I'm getting sick of repeating myself but here goes again.

This is not a new event

Let me say it again

This is not a new...
Forum: Tech Log
29th May 2011, 13:08
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,665,199
Posted By nitpicker330

Oh another one........ To save you from...

Oh another one........

To save you from reading previous posts that have addressed your question I'll answer it for you again.

Yes, this has happened before in much the same circumstances as AF...
Forum: Tech Log
29th May 2011, 13:01
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,665,199
Posted By nitpicker330

You know what I think is that a lot of Pilots...

You know what I think is that a lot of Pilots don't know the normal performance to expect on their Aircraft. ie normal CLB pitch and N1, Normal CRZ pitch and N1 and normal DES pitch and N1 ( yeah...
Forum: Tech Log
29th May 2011, 12:55
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By nitpicker330

Thanks bud and congrats on the conversion. ...

Thanks bud and congrats on the conversion.

But please don't pitch up to 15 deg other than on TO below acceleration height!!:ok: Remember there a 3 different phases mentioned:ok:
Forum: Tech Log
29th May 2011, 12:28
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By nitpicker330

Cricky do any of you fellas read previous posts? ...

Cricky do any of you fellas read previous posts?

Yes all the Attitude indicators where fully functioning.

The problem was with the Air Data Modules receiving crap info from the iced up Pitot...
Forum: Tech Log
29th May 2011, 12:15
Replies: 3,435
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Posted By nitpicker330

Dropping a wing is taught in unusual attitude...

Dropping a wing is taught in unusual attitude recoveries on Boeings if you find yourself with a very high nose attitude and the speed rapidly heading south. ( and at the same time reducing thrust to...
Forum: Tech Log
29th May 2011, 11:44
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,665,199
Posted By nitpicker330

No I haven't but I don't think it would be a lot...

No I haven't but I don't think it would be a lot different to the stalls I have done at 22,000'. It would be a little more sensitive perhaps and i would need to be careful not to over control but the...
Forum: Tech Log
29th May 2011, 10:55
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,665,199
Posted By nitpicker330

Quote from FCOM 1 "ALL PROTECTIONS ARE LOST...

Quote from FCOM 1

"ALL PROTECTIONS ARE LOST IN DIRECT LAW"

Other crews have been there and done that before and lived to tell the tail.
The storms they inadvertently flew into contained severe...
Forum: Tech Log
29th May 2011, 10:32
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,665,199
Posted By nitpicker330

With other A330 similar incidents after exiting...

With other A330 similar incidents after exiting the area and the probes de-iced most Control Laws returned to normal. ( With one they had a Prim fault that they couldn't reset I think ). All flights...
Forum: Tech Log
29th May 2011, 09:43
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,665,199
Posted By nitpicker330

Edmund......This is not new, before the Air...

Edmund......This is not new, before the Air Caraibis incident my Airline had a similar thing occur over the South China sea in an A330. They had their pitot probes ice up from super cooled water and...
Forum: Tech Log
29th May 2011, 09:22
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,665,199
Posted By nitpicker330

Quote from FCOM 1 Abnormal law due to: -...

Quote from FCOM 1

Abnormal law due to:
- Pitch attitude >50 deg nose up or 30 deg nose down
- Bank angle >125 deg
- AOA > 30 deg or < -10 deg
- Speed > 440 kt or <-60 kt
-Mach >.96 or < 0.1
...
Forum: Tech Log
29th May 2011, 09:07
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,665,199
Posted By nitpicker330

Above the sky....... Yes I must apologize you are...

Above the sky....... Yes I must apologize you are correct. I just looked at FCOM 1 and it applies during abnormal attitudes.......

I'll take my foot out of my mouth now :E
Forum: Tech Log
29th May 2011, 09:02
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,665,199
Posted By nitpicker330

Ok, Let me re-post the Quick Reference Handbook...

Ok, Let me re-post the Quick Reference Handbook information on just what these guys faced. This info was available long before this accident. It may also help to explain to those that don't fly the...
Forum: Tech Log
29th May 2011, 08:55
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,665,199
Posted By nitpicker330

Gee and I thought this was the "Professional...

Gee and I thought this was the "Professional Pilots rumor network"

There is no "Abnormal" Law on the FBW Airbus. :ok:

Normal
Alternate 1
Alternate 2
Direct

Ok.
Forum: Tech Log
29th May 2011, 03:53
Replies: 3,435
Views: 1,665,199
Posted By nitpicker330

Boy there is some crap in here!! Now read my...

Boy there is some crap in here!!

Now read my lips:- In Alternate Law the aircraft flies basically like normal BUT without most protections. It doesn't use pitch trim for pitch!!


ALTERNATE 1....
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